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Paul Markham · 08-23-2006, 09:53 AM

101 clueless models

This was a problem up until about 3-4 years ago, I think one girl did come up to the studio to ask if we would take all her stuff down, can't remember for sure.

The real situation is these girls KNOW their images and videos are going onto the Internet. Unless they live in the middle of nowhere.

The free sites have been up 6-7 years, some before, and their boyfriends, boyfriends brothers, friends brothers, their brothers, and the rest of their school class have been talking about the free porn on the Internet for the last 6-7 years.

Today I'm finding less drop dead gorgeous ones want to fuck in front of the camera, but all the girls who turn up know it will be seen.

Where are you finding these models?

stickyfingerz · 08-23-2006, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Dont remind me about flakey models today. Had a girl CONTACT ME! asking for a test shoot. I tell her this weekend, she says she cant do it this weekend, has to be before thursday. So I set it up for this morning. Have to pay my babysitter, get all proper releases ready, equipment ready, load everything in the Jeep. Drive 21 miles to her house. She then doesnt answer her door. I leave for a bit and the blinds were partially open and there was a dog in the house. When I get back to see if she just had to leave for a bit, the dog is outback fenced in, and the blinds are shut.

I hit her up on my way back to my house on msn on my sidekick, and she says she is sorry. All she had to do was give me a call this morning, or hit me on msn, and tell me she had changed her mind. Instead she lets me drive over 40 miles, get cash out to pay her with, drive to her house, wait around for 20 mins etc etc. Fuckin flakey models. All this for a test shoot bah.

Rofl as an update. That model hits me back up and asks if we can try again. I told her sure, but you will have to do atm, and its now half the money we first discussed for the blow job handjob scene.

ninavain · 08-23-2006, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Rofl as an update. That model hits me back up and asks if we can try again. I told her sure, but you will have to do atm, and its now half the money we first discussed for the blow job handjob scene.

GlydeGirl · 08-23-2006, 10:24 AM

Rather than models trying to "fit in" to the bullshit Christian morality that tells us that you can't be sexually active/adventurous and still be trusted to hold down a job, how about we force a change... that EMT who wasn't going to get hired because of images of her fucking on film -- that's a massive case of sexual discrimination/harassment for the ACLU.

When are we, as an industry, going to stop being afraid of the bullshit Christian morality that runs this continent??? Adults are allowed to fuck, adults are allowed to have sexy naked pictures of them taken, and adults are allowed to watch sexual activity on the internet, through magazines, and on DVD's (etc).

There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with people working in the adult entertainment business and it is complete bullshit for people to be discriminated against for making their money that way.

And for these models to come and ask our industry to remove their perfectly legal images simply because some close-minded people in power over them want to lourd this aspect of their life over them -- they are asking the WRONG people to change their minds!!! They need to stand up to the people who are prejudiced against them and CONVINCE them that there is nothing wrong with adults engaging in sexual activity on film and that it is highly discriminatory (which is illegal) for people to financially penalize people for engaging in this type of work.

So this model should have a talk with her daddy and brother and get them used to the idea that she did what she did with a level head. And the other model who might not get hired because of her past should have a serious talk with the Human Resources department and file a complaint.

I'm so sick of our industry being the whipping post for the Christian morality that DOES NOT ACTUALLY GOVERN our continent in any official capacity. It's time to put those people in their place and FORCE them to accept that there are other ways of living one's life in this country and that they can no longer discriminate against people with different value systems than them.

Lensman · 08-23-2006, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MaskTVMaura

Rather than models trying to "fit in" to the bullshit Christian morality that tells us that you can't be sexually active/adventurous and still be trusted to hold down a job, how about we force a change... that EMT who wasn't going to get hired because of images of her fucking on film -- that's a massive case of sexual discrimination/harassment for the ACLU.

When are we, as an industry, going to stop being afraid of the bullshit Christian morality that runs this continent??? Adults are allowed to fuck, adults are allowed to have sexy naked pictures of them taken, and adults are allowed to watch sexual activity on the internet, through magazines, and on DVD's (etc).

There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with people working in the adult entertainment business and it is complete bullshit for people to be discriminated against for making their money that way.

And for these models to come and ask our industry to remove their perfectly legal images simply because some close-minded people in power over them want to lourd this aspect of their life over them -- they are asking the WRONG people to change their minds!!! They need to stand up to the people who are prejudiced against them and CONVINCE them that there is nothing wrong with adults engaging in sexual activity on film and that it is highly discriminatory (which is illegal) for people to financially penalize people for engaging in this type of work.

So this model should have a talk with her daddy and brother and get them used to the idea that she did what she did with a level head. And the other model who might not get hired because of her past should have a serious talk with the Human Resources department and file a complaint.

I'm so sick of our industry being the whipping post for the Christian morality that DOES NOT ACTUALLY GOVERN our continent in any official capacity. It's time to put those people in their place and FORCE them to accept that there are other ways of living one's life in this country and that they can no longer discriminate against people with different value systems than them.

Good perspective

ninavain · 08-23-2006, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Lensman

Good perspective

I second that

CDSmith · 08-23-2006, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MaskTVMaura

Rather than models trying to "fit in" to the bullshit Christian morality that tells us that you can't be sexually active/adventurous and still be trusted to hold down a job, how about we force a change... that EMT who wasn't going to get hired because of images of her fucking on film -- that's a massive case of sexual discrimination/harassment for the ACLU.

When are we, as an industry, going to stop being afraid of the bullshit Christian morality that runs this continent??? Adults are allowed to fuck, adults are allowed to have sexy naked pictures of them taken, and adults are allowed to watch sexual activity on the internet, through magazines, and on DVD's (etc).

There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with people working in the adult entertainment business and it is complete bullshit for people to be discriminated against for making their money that way.

And for these models to come and ask our industry to remove their perfectly legal images simply because some close-minded people in power over them want to lourd this aspect of their life over them -- they are asking the WRONG people to change their minds!!! They need to stand up to the people who are prejudiced against them and CONVINCE them that there is nothing wrong with adults engaging in sexual activity on film and that it is highly discriminatory (which is illegal) for people to financially penalize people for engaging in this type of work.

So this model should have a talk with her daddy and brother and get them used to the idea that she did what she did with a level head. And the other model who might not get hired because of her past should have a serious talk with the Human Resources department and file a complaint.

I'm so sick of our industry being the whipping post for the Christian morality that DOES NOT ACTUALLY GOVERN our continent in any official capacity. It's time to put those people in their place and FORCE them to accept that there are other ways of living one's life in this country and that they can no longer discriminate against people with different value systems than them.

That is the opinion I was waiting to see here. Nicely said.

pussyluver · 08-23-2006, 06:43 PM

Didn't read the whole thread.

Once published, the content is out there, has been stolen and is spread all overt the world. there is no way to take it ALL down. You can sell her the rights if your want and then she can pursue the matter = a lot of work.

Best for her to live through it, take her lumps and move on.

Make sure your ass is covered with a solid contract = that's obvious.

nikki99 · 08-23-2006, 07:22 PM

and where is the pic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JMM · 08-23-2006, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MaskTVMaura

Rather than models trying to "fit in" to the bullshit Christian morality that tells us that you can't be sexually active/adventurous and still be trusted to hold down a job, how about we force a change... that EMT who wasn't going to get hired because of images of her fucking on film -- that's a massive case of sexual discrimination/harassment for the ACLU.

When are we, as an industry, going to stop being afraid of the bullshit Christian morality that runs this continent??? Adults are allowed to fuck, adults are allowed to have sexy naked pictures of them taken, and adults are allowed to watch sexual activity on the internet, through magazines, and on DVD's (etc).

There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with people working in the adult entertainment business and it is complete bullshit for people to be discriminated against for making their money that way.

And for these models to come and ask our industry to remove their perfectly legal images simply because some close-minded people in power over them want to lourd this aspect of their life over them -- they are asking the WRONG people to change their minds!!! They need to stand up to the people who are prejudiced against them and CONVINCE them that there is nothing wrong with adults engaging in sexual activity on film and that it is highly discriminatory (which is illegal) for people to financially penalize people for engaging in this type of work.

So this model should have a talk with her daddy and brother and get them used to the idea that she did what she did with a level head. And the other model who might not get hired because of her past should have a serious talk with the Human Resources department and file a complaint.

I'm so sick of our industry being the whipping post for the Christian morality that DOES NOT ACTUALLY GOVERN our continent in any official capacity. It's time to put those people in their place and FORCE them to accept that there are other ways of living one's life in this country and that they can no longer discriminate against people with different value systems than them.

Yeah, that is all well and good in a perfect world. We don't live in a perfect world.

Most police departments, fire departments, etc, have morality clauses, they can fire you for actions that they deem immoral, whether they are or not.

Sure, she can call the ACLU and fight it, but perhaps she doesn't want to be this years porn poster girl in the community where her parents live and work, where her kids, or maybe brothers and sisters go to school.

Lot of factors that go into this.

Funny thing is, I have read a lot of these replies and I know most of you are full of shit. Most of you have much bigger hearts than you are leading people to believe.

When it comes right down to it, this business is about more than just dollars and cents, it is about people too.

Anyway, before you guys aim your dildos at my ass again, I will once again state that after all avenues are considered my answer might very well be, I am sorry, but NO.

CDSmith · 08-23-2006, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JMM

Sure, she can call the ACLU and fight it, but perhaps she doesn't want to be this years porn poster girl in the community where her parents live and work, where her kids, or maybe brothers and sisters go to school.

Perhaps she should have thought of that before getting down and dirty for money?

Just a thought.

JMM · 08-23-2006, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

Perhaps she should have thought of that before getting down and dirty for money?

Just a thought.

If I had more time to waste, I would look for a pic of a dead horse to post.

Obviously, that is a given. You and I both know, they don't think.

TeaseumGirls · 09-23-2006, 01:48 AM

its a doosey situation thats for sure!

The Ghost · 09-23-2006, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

lol i have a big favour i need of you .. can you throw some money into a pit and pour some gasoline on it and light it on fire.... pretty pleeze with cherries on top n stuff..

thanks a bunch .

Smokey

Amen Nina.

That's the only way to do it.

That's how we do it.

Jace · 09-23-2006, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by TeaseumGirls

its a doosey situation thats for sure!

wtf??? why did you bump this?

emthree · 09-23-2006, 02:26 AM

We're in the buisness of selling souls.
What was she thinking?

cess · 09-23-2006, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by jacked

if she was worried about her family stumbling upon it she should have never done it in the first place... models... geezz

AND...
She probably told a friend or someone about the site and is now scared they are going to tell someone else. What are the odds of finding pics of a nobody model when you don't know the name of the site or the name she used? I would think she used a fake (stage) name. I don't see what she is worried about anyway unless she told someone or someone she knows reads GFY constantly...

fhgmaster · 09-23-2006, 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ninavain

i don't know if you can but i would love you for it if you could.

Well, what's all this drama about? Just explain kindly that you are sorry, but you can't. Maybe she simply doesn't know about the implications it would have when you took down the site, like dead links, affiliates getting pissed of, etc.
No need for big drama

C_U_Next_Tuesday · 09-23-2006, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by MaskTVMaura

There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with people working in the adult entertainment business and it is complete bullshit for people to be discriminated against for making their money that way.

or so we like to think, but most of these girls are almost always referred to as sluts and whores by those that shoot and distribute them, and the industry itself has very little repsect for them..they just use them for their financial gain.

en21 · 09-23-2006, 07:39 AM

geez.... her brother and father wants some of her pics too???

LadyMischief · 09-23-2006, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by JMM

That is exactly my point.

This is a business, and in business, you can't just shoot from the hip, ESPECIALLY if there are affiliates involved.

For example, let's say I have an 18 year old daughter who had a solo girl site and I found out. I don't care what paperwork she signed, if I want to make an issue of it, it is going to be expensive, FOR EVERYBODY.

First thing I would do is sue the site owner. But that would just be the first line of "defendant". Anyone want to guess what the next few hundred/thousand lines would be?

Suing the site owner might get stuff taken down initially, but in the long and short of it if the model was of legal age and not under duress when she signed, the courts will likely go with the legally binding contract as opposed to some pissed-off dad who's legal-age daughter did something stupid.

Basic_man · 09-23-2006, 08:24 AM

Poor girl, now her brother will want to fuck her :P

dcortez · 09-23-2006, 08:56 AM

I've worked lots with younger adult models and it is very important to ensure they understand what the Model Release involves.

A proper model release will require that the model acknowledge that she/he have consulted legal advise and a producer with their shit together will make sure the model *understands* what they are getting into *beforehand*.

Simply having them sign a release and assume their all 'growed up' may be legally permissible, but it leaves a gaping hole for missed expectations and serious emotional issues on either end.

I don't know how old this one was, but expecting considered decisions from younger inexperienced people is naive (regardless of law) and often an exploitive posture - ie. many producers (I'm not suggesting this one) don't really want the model to change her mind so they slide through the release in a perfunctory way.

How much proactive explanation did you do with this model?

Did she just read your paperwork and sign it, or did you underline the seriousness of her commitment?

08-23-2006, 09:53 AM	#101
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	101 clueless models This was a problem up until about 3-4 years ago, I think one girl did come up to the studio to ask if we would take all her stuff down, can't remember for sure. The real situation is these girls KNOW their images and videos are going onto the Internet. Unless they live in the middle of nowhere. The free sites have been up 6-7 years, some before, and their boyfriends, boyfriends brothers, friends brothers, their brothers, and the rest of their school class have been talking about the free porn on the Internet for the last 6-7 years. Today I'm finding less drop dead gorgeous ones want to fuck in front of the camera, but all the girls who turn up know it will be seen. Where are you finding these models? __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

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08-23-2006, 10:24 AM	#104
GlydeGirl Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,516	Rather than models trying to "fit in" to the bullshit Christian morality that tells us that you can't be sexually active/adventurous and still be trusted to hold down a job, how about we force a change... that EMT who wasn't going to get hired because of images of her fucking on film -- that's a massive case of sexual discrimination/harassment for the ACLU. When are we, as an industry, going to stop being afraid of the bullshit Christian morality that runs this continent??? Adults are allowed to fuck, adults are allowed to have sexy naked pictures of them taken, and adults are allowed to watch sexual activity on the internet, through magazines, and on DVD's (etc). There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with people working in the adult entertainment business and it is complete bullshit for people to be discriminated against for making their money that way. And for these models to come and ask our industry to remove their perfectly legal images simply because some close-minded people in power over them want to lourd this aspect of their life over them -- they are asking the WRONG people to change their minds!!! They need to stand up to the people who are prejudiced against them and CONVINCE them that there is nothing wrong with adults engaging in sexual activity on film and that it is highly discriminatory (which is illegal) for people to financially penalize people for engaging in this type of work. So this model should have a talk with her daddy and brother and get them used to the idea that she did what she did with a level head. And the other model who might not get hired because of her past should have a serious talk with the Human Resources department and file a complaint. I'm so sick of our industry being the whipping post for the Christian morality that DOES NOT ACTUALLY GOVERN our continent in any official capacity. It's time to put those people in their place and FORCE them to accept that there are other ways of living one's life in this country and that they can no longer discriminate against people with different value systems than them.

08-23-2006, 06:43 PM	#108
pussyluver Clueless OleMan Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: ICQ - 169903487 Posts: 11,009	Didn't read the whole thread. Once published, the content is out there, has been stolen and is spread all overt the world. there is no way to take it ALL down. You can sell her the rights if your want and then she can pursue the matter = a lot of work. Best for her to live through it, take her lumps and move on. Make sure your ass is covered with a solid contract = that's obvious.

09-23-2006, 01:48 AM	#113
TeaseumGirls Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 248	its a doosey situation thats for sure!

09-23-2006, 08:56 AM	#123
dcortez DINO CORTEZ™ Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Vancouver Island Posts: 2,145	I've worked lots with younger adult models and it is very important to ensure they understand what the Model Release involves. A proper model release will require that the model acknowledge that she/he have consulted legal advise and a producer with their shit together will make sure the model understands what they are getting into beforehand. Simply having them sign a release and assume their all 'growed up' may be legally permissible, but it leaves a gaping hole for missed expectations and serious emotional issues on either end. I don't know how old this one was, but expecting considered decisions from younger inexperienced people is naive (regardless of law) and often an exploitive posture - ie. many producers (I'm not suggesting this one) don't really want the model to change her mind so they slide through the release in a perfunctory way. How much proactive explanation did you do with this model? Did she just read your paperwork and sign it, or did you underline the seriousness of her commitment?