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Old 08-11-2006, 02:32 PM   #1
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ATTN: The question of the DAY!

do you think you should be able to "do as the govt. does" instead of "do what the govt says"?

what i mean by this is, if the govt can spy on its people in "the interest of national security", shouldnt i be allowed to spy on people in the interest of my personal and national security? this would include: wiretapping, using any means (legal or illegal) to gain access to a persons personal and financial information, etc..

personally, i think anything the govt is allowed to do, i should be allowed to do as well. if they can circumvent the law and in the US's case, the constitution, why shouldnt i be allowed to do the same...

although i am a US citizen, i think this applies to all democratic countries..

has anyone ever read the constitution or the bill of rights? and i mean the whole thing? in a true democratic soceity, its the people that make the decisions, not the govt...

i am no tin foil nut, but i do believe that as a US citizen, we have given far too much power to the govt to make decisions for us that often go against the majority's beliefs of how our govt should be run...

thoughts?
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Old 08-11-2006, 02:33 PM   #2
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Old 08-11-2006, 02:35 PM   #3
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That question was too long...

Let's do a simple one...

Did it rain today where you live?
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Old 08-11-2006, 02:44 PM   #4
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That question was too long...

Let's do a simple one...

Did it rain today where you live?




yes, it rains here everyday....
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Old 08-11-2006, 02:46 PM   #5
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yes, it rains here everyday....
same here... then again i'm just an hour and a half from makati..
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Old 08-11-2006, 02:47 PM   #6
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Old 08-11-2006, 02:50 PM   #7
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i guess u didnt actually read the whole post. i am not into tinfoil or conspiracy's.. but i am into why i cant do what me elected govt officials do everyday...

i just want it to be fair...
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Old 08-11-2006, 03:02 PM   #8
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yeh rained here too :D
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Old 08-11-2006, 03:09 PM   #9
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what i really find amusing is the fact that everyone so far has decided to comment on the weather... then when the shit hits the fan like 2257, you all complain like the world is ending....

i guess this is whats the problem... reactive instead of proactive...

sad....

all i asked is that if people think they should be allowed to have the same latitude of law that the govt exercises...

i guess the mental apptitude of gfy is limited to "i'd hit that" and "congrats to the winners" threads...
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Old 08-11-2006, 03:09 PM   #10
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That question was too long...

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Did it rain today where you live?
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Old 08-11-2006, 03:10 PM   #11
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what i really find amusing is the fact that everyone so far has decided to comment on the weather... then when the shit hits the fan like 2257, you all complain like the world is ending....

i guess this is whats the problem... reactive instead of proactive...

sad....

all i asked is that if people think they should be allowed to have the same latitude of law that the govt exercises...

i guess the mental apptitude of gfy is limited to "i'd hit that" and "congrats to the winners" threads...
The problem was...Your question was too fucken long...I didn't even bother reading it...

Sorry...This is a forum...Not a book club
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Old 08-11-2006, 03:12 PM   #12
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The problem was...Your question was too fucken long...I didn't even bother reading it...

Sorry...This is a forum...Not a book club
so you are saying i should try to get on Oprah?
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Old 08-11-2006, 03:13 PM   #13
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so you are saying i should try to get on Oprah?
Now we are making progress
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Old 08-11-2006, 03:18 PM   #14
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it's raining again
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Old 08-11-2006, 03:33 PM   #15
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ok... let me shorten the post...

do you think people should be allowed to break the law if the govt does it?
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Old 08-11-2006, 04:25 PM   #16
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ok... let me shorten the post...

do you think people should be allowed to break the law if the govt does it?
no ...............
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Old 08-11-2006, 04:27 PM   #17
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no ...............
why? keep in mind, i am talking about the same laws... ie wiretapping, etc..
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Old 08-11-2006, 04:43 PM   #18
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ok... let me shorten the post...

do you think people should be allowed to break the law if the govt does it?
Of course not. But in the same breath I say that the population shouldn't be complacent sitting on their asses watching Jeopardy and complaining about the state of things while letting the govt do as they please.

Citizens need to make the politicians accountable for their actions. This is something you don't see.
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Old 08-11-2006, 04:49 PM   #19
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Of course not. But in the same breath I say that the population shouldn't be complacent sitting on their asses watching Jeopardy and complaining about the state of things while letting the govt do as they please.

Citizens need to make the politicians accountable for their actions. This is something you don't see.
thank you for an intelligent response...
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do you think you should be able to "do as the govt. does" instead of "do what the govt says"?

what i mean by this is, if the govt can spy on its people in "the interest of national security", shouldnt i be allowed to spy on people in the interest of my personal and national security? this would include: wiretapping, using any means (legal or illegal) to gain access to a persons personal and financial information, etc..

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has anyone ever read the constitution or the bill of rights? and i mean the whole thing? in a true democratic soceity, its the people that make the decisions, not the govt...

i am no tin foil nut, but i do believe that as a US citizen, we have given far too much power to the govt to make decisions for us that often go against the majority's beliefs of how our govt should be run...

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Old 08-11-2006, 06:17 PM   #22
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yes, it rains here everyday....
You live in Seattle?
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Old 08-11-2006, 06:22 PM   #23
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nah, i'm into the spy gizmos... i just want to spy on people too....
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Old 08-11-2006, 07:19 PM   #25
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ok... let me shorten the post...

do you think people should be allowed to break the law if the govt does it?
yes.......
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