Clear up with 2257, whats the problem?? - GoFuckYourself.com

ronad10 · 07-28-2006, 02:29 PM

Im not sure I get all these threads about ppl being scared and closing business with 2257.. Isnt 2257 the thing that says that models have to be 18 and over? Is there something else? Arent like 99% of producers already legit with that law? Was everyone shooting girls under 18 or what? What the big deal??

AdultX · 07-28-2006, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronad10

Im not sure I get all these threads about ppl being scared and closing business with 2257.. Isnt 2257 the thing that says that models have to be 18 and over? Is there something else? Arent like 99% of producers already legit with that law? Was everyone shooting girls under 18 or what? What the big deal??

QuaWee · 07-28-2006, 02:46 PM

ummm wow

Loki · 07-28-2006, 03:47 PM

That should explain everything to you ;)

-Loki-

media · 07-28-2006, 03:49 PM

Get Out Now!

Loki · 07-28-2006, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by media

Get Out Now!

NO NO NO, stay in, just switch to toons ;)

-Loki-

Hotrocket · 07-28-2006, 04:51 PM

talk about clueless...

DutchTeenCash · 07-28-2006, 04:52 PM

pls kill yself now thank you from all of us

CaptainHowdy · 07-28-2006, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thinkx

pls kill yself now thank you from all of us

!!

Lance69 · 07-28-2006, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuaWee

ummm wow

Noooo kidding! What else can you say but... ummm wow!

chase · 07-28-2006, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronad10

Im not sure I get all these threads about ppl being scared and closing business with 2257.. Isnt 2257 the thing that says that models have to be 18 and over? Is there something else? Arent like 99% of producers already legit with that law? Was everyone shooting girls under 18 or what? What the big deal??

On the off chance that you are actually serious......

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/h...7----000-.html

Read that, and then say this law is JUSt about models being over 18. 18+ is a given. We are legitimate porn people here. That is not the problem.
The problem is the fact that people who have nothing to do with hiring models or production can go to prison for CLERICAL errors, not for underage models.
The problem is that models' identifying information is available to way too many people now.
The problem is that maintaining the records now required by secondary producers-who have no contact whatsoever with the actual production of content-is a big amount of lost time and therefore money basically just copying information that was already kept in keeping with the first set of regs by the PRIMARY producer...the one who actually should be keeping these records.

So, tell me how making thousands of webmasters keep the same records already kept by the content shooters protects underage people from being in adult productions? Obviously it doesn't.

Dirty Dane · 07-28-2006, 05:14 PM

2256 defines minor and sexual explicit
2251 is about exploit and penalty
2257 is about record keeping requirement and penalty

Shortly, you can say 2251 is the "most" important one, and 2257 to self-ensure you don't break 2251.

2260 is about import and will affect foreign webmasters, but is not covering record keeping requirement.

ronad10 · 07-28-2006, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chase

On the off chance that you are actually serious......

Read that, and then say this law is JUSt about models being over 18. 18+ is a given. We are legitimate porn people here. That is not the problem.
The problem is the fact that people who have nothing to do with hiring models or production can go to prison for CLERICAL errors, not for underage models.
The problem is that models' identifying information is available to way too many people now.
The problem is that maintaining the records now required by secondary producers-who have no contact whatsoever with the actual production of content-is a big amount of lost time and therefore money basically just copying information that was already kept in keeping with the first set of regs by the PRIMARY producer...the one who actually should be keeping these records.

So, tell me how making thousands of webmasters keep the same records already kept by the content shooters protects underage people from being in adult productions? Obviously it doesn't.

k thx...guys relax...i dont sleep here nor do i have thousands of posts...20 posts actually.. I was just wondering why so many people were saying it would be the end of adult, thats all

KRL · 07-28-2006, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronad10

k thx...guys relax...i dont sleep here nor do i have thousands of posts...20 posts actually.. I was just wondering why so many people were saying it would be the end of adult, thats all

Not to be rude, but the fact you don't even realize the impact on your business of what's going with the new laws says a lot about the problems with this industry right now.

People seem to think selling porn is as easy as opening a lemonade stand on your corner block.

CE_Rashaan · 07-28-2006, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRL

Not to be rude, but the fact you don't even realize the impact on your business of what's going with the new laws says a lot about the problems with this industry right now.

People seem to think selling porn is as easy as opening a lemonade stand on your corner block.

who said this guy was in business

DutchTeenCash · 07-28-2006, 05:30 PM

joined june 2006

I knew

chase · 07-28-2006, 05:32 PM

Yeah, I understand that, but unless you live out of the US, you should not be in adult if you don't know these laws inside out. And even if you don't live in the US, so many adult companies/webmasters, etc do, that it will touch your biz in some way, so it's smart to know them. And if you don't WORK in adult, you probably shouldn't be here. But, on second thought, if people who vote in the US DID come here and ask questions like that, maybe they'd realize that we don't want to exploit kids. Porn does not equal child p*rn. Not even close.

07-28-2006, 02:29 PM	#1
ronad10 Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 181	Clear up with 2257, whats the problem?? Im not sure I get all these threads about ppl being scared and closing business with 2257.. Isnt 2257 the thing that says that models have to be 18 and over? Is there something else? Arent like 99% of producers already legit with that law? Was everyone shooting girls under 18 or what? What the big deal??

07-28-2006, 02:46 PM	#3
QuaWee Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: boogers Posts: 5,791	ummm wow __________________ i luv mainstream

07-28-2006, 03:47 PM	#4
Loki Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 4,420	That should explain everything to you ;) -Loki- __________________ MAKE MONEY WITH 3D TOONS! Need hosting? LokiCa$h Uses Amerinoc and love them! Skype: LokiPorn Or Email 3dloki\|at\|gmail.com

07-28-2006, 03:49 PM	#5
media Confirmed Moneymaker Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Eugene, OR It's Like Jail, Only with Trees! Posts: 9,852	Get Out Now! __________________ I'm here for the violence!

07-28-2006, 04:52 PM	#8
DutchTeenCash I like Dutch Girls Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: dutchteencash.com Posts: 21,684	pls kill yself now thank you from all of us __________________ ICQ 16 91 547 - SKYPE dutchteencash bob AT dutchteencash DOT com ... did you see our newest Sweet Natural Girl Priscilla (18)?

07-28-2006, 04:51 PM	#7
Hotrocket Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,327	talk about clueless...

07-28-2006, 05:14 PM	#12
Dirty Dane Sick Fuck Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: www Posts: 9,491	2256 defines minor and sexual explicit 2251 is about exploit and penalty 2257 is about record keeping requirement and penalty Shortly, you can say 2251 is the "most" important one, and 2257 to self-ensure you don't break 2251. 2260 is about import and will affect foreign webmasters, but is not covering record keeping requirement.

07-28-2006, 05:30 PM	#16
DutchTeenCash I like Dutch Girls Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: dutchteencash.com Posts: 21,684	joined june 2006 I knew __________________ ICQ 16 91 547 - SKYPE dutchteencash bob AT dutchteencash DOT com ... did you see our newest Sweet Natural Girl Priscilla (18)?

07-28-2006, 05:32 PM	#17
chase Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 6,019	Yeah, I understand that, but unless you live out of the US, you should not be in adult if you don't know these laws inside out. And even if you don't live in the US, so many adult companies/webmasters, etc do, that it will touch your biz in some way, so it's smart to know them. And if you don't WORK in adult, you probably shouldn't be here. But, on second thought, if people who vote in the US DID come here and ask questions like that, maybe they'd realize that we don't want to exploit kids. Porn does not equal child p*rn. Not even close. __________________ Need Hosting? Reality Check Network services me purrrfectly!