GOOGLE.com is violating 2257 - GoFuckYourself.com

Degenerate · 07-28-2006, 01:56 AM

As of now right? Correct me if I'm wrong...

ProducerCashDave · 07-28-2006, 01:57 AM

Hmmm.. think so

twink-in-training · 07-28-2006, 01:58 AM

http://images.google.com/images?q=ta...=Search+Images

KrisKross · 07-28-2006, 01:59 AM

Did they change the provision that exempts those who have no reasonable control over the content displayed?

twink-in-training · 07-28-2006, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by KrisKross

Did they change the provision that exempts those who have no reasonable control over the content displayed?

ooo sign me up for that program.

we come and take over your sites.
you have no choice.

but we convert 17:1

2HousePlague · 07-28-2006, 02:02 AM

2hp

Alex · 07-28-2006, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by 2HousePlague

2hp

owned.

KrisKross · 07-28-2006, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by twink-in-training

ooo sign me up for that program.

we come and take over your sites.
you have no choice.

but we convert 17:1

say what now?

$5 submissions · 07-28-2006, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by KrisKross

Did they change the provision that exempts those who have no reasonable control over the content displayed?

Thanks for pointing that out.

Kimo · 07-28-2006, 03:09 AM

blahhhhhhhh

joshll · 07-28-2006, 03:13 AM

testpie · 07-28-2006, 03:42 AM

It depends - i heard that Google use server farms all over the world, so if they serve your session via a non-US server, then they are in the clear.

madawgz · 07-28-2006, 03:44 AM

google can do whatever they want..................

Paul Markham · 07-28-2006, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by madawgz

google can do whatever they want..................

Probably very true.

gooddomains · 07-28-2006, 03:49 AM

the just do whatever they want, money rules

fr0gman · 07-28-2006, 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twink-in-training

ooo sign me up for that program.

we come and take over your sites.
you have no choice.

but we convert 17:1

You suck at the internet and MATH.

Scott McD · 07-28-2006, 03:52 AM

2257

Matt 26z · 07-28-2006, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by testpie

It depends - i heard that Google use server farms all over the world, so if they serve your session via a non-US server, then they are in the clear.

When are some of you going to finally understand that where your content is served DOESNT MEAN A DAMN THING. The only thing that matters is where you are physically controlling them from.

If you are in the US but your server in China, you are bound to US laws.

If you are in Russia but your server in Canada, you are bound to Russian laws.

testpie · 07-28-2006, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z

When are some of you going to finally understand that where your content is served DOESNT MEAN A DAMN THING. The only thing that matters is where you are physically controlling them from.

If you are in the US but your server in China, you are bound to US laws.

If you are in Russia but your server in Canada, you are bound to Russian laws.

And could it not be argued that you are physically controlling them from your foreign entity operation? Don't get me wrong - i haven't got a clue about the organisational structure of Google (they don't exactly wear it on their sleeve), but if they have a foreign entity in, let's say Russia, that directly controls their Russian operation, then therefore (by your logic) then are in the clear - correct?

footmonkey · 07-28-2006, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by KrisKross

Did they change the provision that exempts those who have no reasonable control over the content displayed?

Anyone know?

Marshal · 07-28-2006, 04:20 AM

sue them!

Ace_luffy · 07-28-2006, 04:52 AM

not google also... even YAHOO and other search engine .......

Fabien · 07-28-2006, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by KrisKross

Did they change the provision that exempts those who have no reasonable control over the content displayed?

Ah cool
Like a blog ?
RSS FEEDS ?

See, you can't find something perfect

Google can , blog ?????

mardigras · 07-28-2006, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Fabien

Ah cool
Like a blog ?
RSS FEEDS ?

See, you can't find something perfect

Google can , blog ?????

If you put an RSS feed on your site that is constantly providing material that violates law you can't claim you have no control over it.

CamsLord · 07-28-2006, 07:51 AM

you are right

scardog · 07-28-2006, 08:35 AM

Can google keep Kiddie Prn off of their images area? I guess they should be exempt from those laws too?

Fire · 07-28-2006, 08:46 AM

You are wrong.

Read the bill here http://www.govtrack.us/data/us/bills.text/109/h4472.pdf

Google, and all the other search engines would be classified as an Internet Information Retreival Tool and are thus not affected.

RayVega · 07-28-2006, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Fire

You are wrong.

Read the bill here http://www.govtrack.us/data/us/bills.text/109/h4472.pdf

Google, and all the other search engines would be classified as an Internet Information Retreival Tool and are thus not affected.

Thank you, I was looking for the legal language. It was killing me the way everyone in the thread was talking.

Dirty Dane · 07-28-2006, 09:21 AM

I think they are violating many laws

tony286 · 07-28-2006, 09:22 AM

Google pays out alot of lobbying money so they arent affected lol

Stephen · 07-28-2006, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by KrisKross

Did they change the provision that exempts those who have no reasonable control over the content displayed?

And where did you see that provision? Please quote it from the statute for the attorneys that missed it

It cracks me up that so many people spend more time worrying about what Google does than about what they're doing, as if a good defense will be to tell the judge that "other people are breaking the law too!"

luv$ · 07-28-2006, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Fire

You are wrong.

Read the bill here http://www.govtrack.us/data/us/bills.text/109/h4472.pdf

Google, and all the other search engines would be classified as an Internet Information Retreival Tool and are thus not affected.

Wouldn't RSS feeds be an "Internet Information Retreival Tool"?

xclusive · 07-28-2006, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by luv$

Wouldn't RSS feeds be an "Internet Information Retreival Tool"?

that's exactly what they are.

KrisKross · 07-28-2006, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Stephen

And where did you see that provision? Please quote it from the statute for the attorneys that missed it

??(B) does not include activities that are limited to?
??(i) photo or film processing, including digitization
of previously existing visual depictions, as part of a
commercial enterprise, with no other commercial
interest in the sexually explicit material, printing, and
video duplication;
??(ii) distribution;
??(iii) any activity, other than those activities identified
in subparagraph (A), that does not involve the
hiring, contracting for, managing, or otherwise
arranging for the participation of the depicted performers;
??(iv) the provision of a telecommunications service,
or of an Internet access service or Internet information
location tool (as those terms are defined in section
231 of the Communications Act of 1934 (47 U.S.C.
231)); or
H. R. 4472?40
??(v) the transmission, storage, retrieval, hosting,
formatting, or translation (or any combination thereof)
of a communication, without selection or alteration
of the content of the communication, except that deletion
of a particular communication or material made
by another person in a manner consistent with section
230(c) of the Communications Act of 1934 (47 U.S.C.
230(c)) shall not constitute such selection or alteration
of the content of the communication;

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