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Degenerate 07-28-2006 01:56 AM

GOOGLE.com is violating 2257
 
As of now right? Correct me if I'm wrong...

ProducerCashDave 07-28-2006 01:57 AM

Hmmm.. think so

twink-in-training 07-28-2006 01:58 AM

http://images.google.com/images?q=ta...=Search+Images

KrisKross 07-28-2006 01:59 AM

Did they change the provision that exempts those who have no reasonable control over the content displayed?

twink-in-training 07-28-2006 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KrisKross
Did they change the provision that exempts those who have no reasonable control over the content displayed?

ooo sign me up for that program.

we come and take over your sites.
you have no choice.

but we convert 17:1 :thumbsup

2HousePlague 07-28-2006 02:02 AM

http://secondsightresearch.tripod.co...es/nospoon.jpg



2hp

Alex 07-28-2006 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2HousePlague

owned.:1orglaugh

KrisKross 07-28-2006 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twink-in-training
ooo sign me up for that program.

we come and take over your sites.
you have no choice.

but we convert 17:1 :thumbsup

say what now?

$5 submissions 07-28-2006 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KrisKross
Did they change the provision that exempts those who have no reasonable control over the content displayed?

Thanks for pointing that out.:thumbsup

Kimo 07-28-2006 03:09 AM

blahhhhhhhh :(

joshll 07-28-2006 03:13 AM

:thumbsup

testpie 07-28-2006 03:42 AM

It depends - i heard that Google use server farms all over the world, so if they serve your session via a non-US server, then they are in the clear.

madawgz 07-28-2006 03:44 AM

google can do whatever they want..................

Paul Markham 07-28-2006 03:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madawgz
google can do whatever they want..................

Probably very true.

gooddomains 07-28-2006 03:49 AM

the just do whatever they want, money rules

fr0gman 07-28-2006 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twink-in-training
ooo sign me up for that program.

we come and take over your sites.
you have no choice.

but we convert 17:1 :thumbsup

You suck at the internet and MATH.

Scott McD 07-28-2006 03:52 AM

http://www.filthywhorebags.com/scott/pee.gif 2257

Matt 26z 07-28-2006 04:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by testpie
It depends - i heard that Google use server farms all over the world, so if they serve your session via a non-US server, then they are in the clear.

When are some of you going to finally understand that where your content is served DOESNT MEAN A DAMN THING. The only thing that matters is where you are physically controlling them from.

If you are in the US but your server in China, you are bound to US laws.

If you are in Russia but your server in Canada, you are bound to Russian laws.

testpie 07-28-2006 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z
When are some of you going to finally understand that where your content is served DOESNT MEAN A DAMN THING. The only thing that matters is where you are physically controlling them from.

If you are in the US but your server in China, you are bound to US laws.

If you are in Russia but your server in Canada, you are bound to Russian laws.

And could it not be argued that you are physically controlling them from your foreign entity operation? Don't get me wrong - i haven't got a clue about the organisational structure of Google (they don't exactly wear it on their sleeve), but if they have a foreign entity in, let's say Russia, that directly controls their Russian operation, then therefore (by your logic) then are in the clear - correct?

footmonkey 07-28-2006 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KrisKross
Did they change the provision that exempts those who have no reasonable control over the content displayed?

Anyone know?

Marshal 07-28-2006 04:20 AM

sue them! :thumbsup

Ace_luffy 07-28-2006 04:52 AM

not google also... even YAHOO and other search engine .......

Fabien 07-28-2006 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KrisKross
Did they change the provision that exempts those who have no reasonable control over the content displayed?


Ah cool
Like a blog ?
RSS FEEDS ?

See, you can't find something perfect

Google can , blog ?????

mardigras 07-28-2006 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fabien
Ah cool
Like a blog ?
RSS FEEDS ?

See, you can't find something perfect

Google can , blog ?????

If you put an RSS feed on your site that is constantly providing material that violates law you can't claim you have no control over it.

CamsLord 07-28-2006 07:51 AM

you are right

scardog 07-28-2006 08:35 AM

Can google keep Kiddie Prn off of their images area? I guess they should be exempt from those laws too?

Fire 07-28-2006 08:46 AM

You are wrong.

Read the bill here http://www.govtrack.us/data/us/bills.text/109/h4472.pdf

Google, and all the other search engines would be classified as an Internet Information Retreival Tool and are thus not affected.

RayVega 07-28-2006 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire
You are wrong.

Read the bill here http://www.govtrack.us/data/us/bills.text/109/h4472.pdf

Google, and all the other search engines would be classified as an Internet Information Retreival Tool and are thus not affected.

Thank you, I was looking for the legal language. It was killing me the way everyone in the thread was talking.

Dirty Dane 07-28-2006 09:21 AM

I think they are violating many laws

tony286 07-28-2006 09:22 AM

Google pays out alot of lobbying money so they arent affected lol

Stephen 07-28-2006 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KrisKross
Did they change the provision that exempts those who have no reasonable control over the content displayed?

And where did you see that provision? Please quote it from the statute for the attorneys that missed it :1orglaugh

It cracks me up that so many people spend more time worrying about what Google does than about what they're doing, as if a good defense will be to tell the judge that "other people are breaking the law too!"

luv$ 07-28-2006 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire
You are wrong.

Read the bill here http://www.govtrack.us/data/us/bills.text/109/h4472.pdf

Google, and all the other search engines would be classified as an Internet Information Retreival Tool and are thus not affected.

Wouldn't RSS feeds be an "Internet Information Retreival Tool"?

xclusive 07-28-2006 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luv$
Wouldn't RSS feeds be an "Internet Information Retreival Tool"?

that's exactly what they are.

KrisKross 07-28-2006 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen
And where did you see that provision? Please quote it from the statute for the attorneys that missed it :1orglaugh

??(B) does not include activities that are limited to?
??(i) photo or film processing, including digitization
of previously existing visual depictions, as part of a
commercial enterprise, with no other commercial
interest in the sexually explicit material, printing, and
video duplication;
??(ii) distribution;
??(iii) any activity, other than those activities identified
in subparagraph (A), that does not involve the
hiring, contracting for, managing, or otherwise
arranging for the participation of the depicted performers;
??(iv) the provision of a telecommunications service,
or of an Internet access service or Internet information
location tool
(as those terms are defined in section
231 of the Communications Act of 1934 (47 U.S.C.
231)); or
H. R. 4472?40
??(v) the transmission, storage, retrieval, hosting,
formatting, or translation (or any combination thereof)
of a communication, without selection or alteration
of the content of the communication, except that deletion
of a particular communication or material made
by another person in a manner consistent with section
230(c) of the Communications Act of 1934 (47 U.S.C.
230(c)) shall not constitute such selection or alteration
of the content of the communication;

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