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Old 07-17-2006, 06:13 AM   #301
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I hate to add to the drama, but this video of 2HP speaks volumes:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=634079
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Old 07-17-2006, 07:16 AM   #303
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to be honest, them using the pics of porn star for profiles doesn't even bother me, bought content can be used for whatever, so that is fair game

but when AFF BLATANTLY allows password sharing sites, pics sharing forums, bit torrent sites and warez sites to use their services and basically make money from MY MY MY STOLEN CONTENT, then THAT i have issue with

and to be honest, I often question the morals of some of these people that constantly praise AFF whenever their is drama, why would popular people always be praising and support them so much, what do they have to gain by supporting content theft? money? well that is just sad, and anyone who sells out their morals for some cash isn't worthy of respect IMO
What he said

Interesting nobody from AFF comments on threads complaining about this yet they are still all over the place....If you guys also belive in karma you better get ready..eh
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You really need to get your facts straight and do some searching on GFY we take action on these items every single day if you have a specific complaint and not just yammering please take it to our In house legal staff who will take action as nesasary.
yeah sure you do thats why all this illegal sites keep using you guys months and after months...
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Number of slanderous threads started by 2hp = 0
Number of slanderous threads started by FF/Lars = 3



2hp
2hp my recommendation is 'dont play with someone who has blatant disregard for the rules of the game"

You may be a 'lateral' thinker and maybe even ahead of your time... but you are a gentleman and a good mate.

The publishing of lawsuit documentation on this board by an unrelated third party is dirty play and inexcusable.

I sit here wondering what kind of businessman uses such bully tactics and how he would treat his business associates.

I like the way AFF attempt to discredit all claims of innappropriate business operations as a 'disgruntled employee"...

I also enjoy the apparant fact that AFF have so many ex-employees in the first place...

Perhaps Lars is in charge of Human Resources over there also....

Hold your head up 2hp!

You can free load off me anytime.....mate!

Remember people, just cos someone sends you a cheque for your hard work which has made them triple what your cheque says, soesnt mean they are always right.

Think like a human, your laptop can think like a machine....
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Old 07-17-2006, 08:03 AM   #306
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hey leave of 2hp - hes a great guy
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Old 07-17-2006, 08:20 AM   #307
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hey leave of 2hp - hes a great guy
Go to sleep scotty, youre not making sense

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Old 07-17-2006, 10:59 AM   #308
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my money is still on 2hp
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Old 07-17-2006, 11:04 AM   #309
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im 2hp 4 life...should bode well in the lawsuit eh
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Old 07-17-2006, 11:19 AM   #311
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Old 07-17-2006, 12:41 PM   #313
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Nah I pay for my rooms with my money and always expense it back to Andrew and Lars. Plus I wasn't at the Xbiz show so I still have a job.
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Old 07-17-2006, 01:09 PM   #314
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it is not my job to make sure you aren't promoting content theft, that is the job of someone at your company

http://www.bulletinboardforum.com/

what facts do I need to get straight about that one buddy?
You would have us ban someone who is allegally stealing content on pages like this:
http://brooke-skye.bulletinboardforum.com/

We have no ad on that page and furthermore the site that he is "stealing" from does have working links. Presumably the affiliate is in good standing. If he was in the wrong you would think he'd be banned from that program first. Since he IS their affiliate I'm sure they have away to contact him directly if they choose to inform them about how to use their content.

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Old 07-17-2006, 01:32 PM   #315
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You would have us ban someone who is allegally stealing content on pages like this:
http://brooke-skye.bulletinboardforum.com/

We have no ad on that page and furthermore the site that he is "stealing" from does have working links. Presumably the affiliate is in good standing. If he was in the wrong you would think he'd be banned from that program first. Since he IS their affiliate I'm sure they have away to contact him directly if they choose to inform them about how to use their content.

This is why we need to hear from content owners.
Im a content owner and it pisses me of when I find my site on some password trading site and there are the ads for aff and other affiliate programs. Tell the truth if they are not stealing from you ,you really dont give a fuck.
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Old 07-17-2006, 03:28 PM   #316
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What is painfully obvious is that you do not have a clue on how to run a company the size of AFF.

Reacting to allegations made on GFY is not how things are done. There are procedures that must be followed or you set yourself up for trouble if the allegations are not true.
ohh man you are such an asskisser...seriously...

If this sites weren't filling AFF pockets or even worse stealing from them you would be sure they would have their accounts canned in less than a week, but well...money talks and bullshit walks...
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Im a content owner and it pisses me of when I find my site on some password trading site and there are the ads for aff and other affiliate programs. Tell the truth if they are not stealing from you ,you really dont give a fuck.
so when we find out about these things, we do our best to do what is right.


my question of the moment: when we ban one of these people for doing it, they just put up one of our competitors the next moment and nobody calls them out
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so when we find out about these things, we do our best to do what is right.


my question of the moment: when we ban one of these people for doing it, they just put up one of our competitors the next moment and nobody calls them out
false, there is no hate AFF bandwagon, there is a scammer hating bandwagon, there just seems to be an increased correlation with AFF....is it due to abundancy? perhaps, ....perhaps not...
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my question of the moment: when we ban one of these people for doing it, they just put up one of our competitors the next moment and nobody calls them out
So how about YOU call them out, in that case? I mean, wouldn't that get you in even better standing with affiliates and fellow sponsors? Just a thought. Or would that be too much work?
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Whenever I find someone using my photos in a Yahoo profile or group without my permission, no amount of crying to Yahoo or moaning in forums has ever got any action done. However, when I send in my photo id, statement of ownership and appropriate documentation, the photos are usually removed within two business days.

AFF is a huge company with proper channels and departments of people. Sure, they have a ton of employees, but that does not mean they would hire people to surf around making sure no affiliates are using Elli photos any more than Yahoo would.

If you are a content owner and you find your material being used without your permission, follow the procedures and you will be well taken care of. If you want to be a good samaritan and you see someone's content being used unlawfully, give a heads-up to the content owner and let them know how to get it fixed.
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http://www.alexa.com/site/ds/top_sit...ntry&lang=none


what other adult sites do you see on this list? we try to make sure that we are being promoted correctly and when we find out that we are not, we fix it.

what do other sponsors do?
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lars is a scammer just like jace says. yet you idiots dont care, cause lars is acool guy.

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You really need to get your facts straight and do some searching on GFY we take action on these items every single day if you have a specific complaint and not just yammering please take it to our In house legal staff who will take action as nesasary. We will and do respond to any Content holder who contacts us.

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Cmon Lars... I love you and I love aff but d you expect everybody to beleive you don't close eyes on "shady" traffic ? There is nobody checking the affiliates and how they promote the site ??? because AFF is pretty much on every one of them.

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so when we find out about these things, we do our best to do what is right.


my question of the moment: when we ban one of these people for doing it, they just put up one of our competitors the next moment and nobody calls them out
That's a statement, not a question. And a pretty piss poor statement at that. Because it can be interpreted as saying "If we shitcan 'em, they're just gonna send traffic to our competitors, so why shitcan 'em?".
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You would have us ban someone who is allegally stealing content on pages like this:
http://brooke-skye.bulletinboardforum.com/

We have no ad on that page and furthermore the site that he is "stealing" from does have working links. Presumably the affiliate is in good standing. If he was in the wrong you would think he'd be banned from that program first. Since he IS their affiliate I'm sure they have away to contact him directly if they choose to inform them about how to use their content.

This is why we need to hear from content owners.
Out of the dozens (if not hundreds) of pages of stolen content, you conveniently pick one that has a banner for the program it is promoting.

You also conveniently skipped the first gallery listed on the left menu which is chock-full of stolen content (most of it watermarked) and no affiliate links. Or how about the Katie's World gallery that links Melissa Midwest.

Oh, and let's not forget the loads of stolen video content that requires visitors to sign up at AFF to see the videos.

http://www.bulletinboardforum.com/36...hirt_hose.html
That's WWE Diva Trish Stratus. WWE doesn't take kindly to content theft. And I'm sure they won't appreciate AFF ads next to the stolen content.

http://www.bulletinboardforum.com/32...th_dinner.html
Do you guys really take scat traffic?

Oh, and should we mention the lack of 2257 statements for all the content? Straight from your terms... "You agree to fully comply with 18 USC 2257 et seq, ("2257") including but not limited to its notice and recordkeeping requirements, as a condition precedent to your participation in this affiliate program or providing any traffic or links from your web pages to our Sites, graphics, web pages, and content or making use of the Program Materials."

"You hereby represent and warrant to us that materials posted on your site do not violate or infringe upon the rights of any third party (including, for example, copyrights, trademarks, privacy, or other personal or proprietary rights), and that materials posted on your site are not libelous or otherwise illegal. You must have express permission to use another party's copyrighted or other proprietary material."

Why state they MUST have express permission when you don't even bother to verify if they do?

Seems you guys really aren't keen on enforcing your terms and conditions when the guy breaking them is sending you volume.
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shit,i lost 20 mins to read this thread and i didnt get answer,lol
stupid thread...
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so when we find out about these things, we do our best to do what is right.


my question of the moment: when we ban one of these people for doing it, they just put up one of our competitors the next moment and nobody calls them out
Honest question. Why don't you guys combat the spyware programs who use AFF at will?
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Honest question. Why don't you guys combat the spyware programs who use AFF at will?
Because no one who owns the content has reported them yet...?
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what other adult sites do you see on this list? we try to make sure that we are being promoted correctly and when we find out that we are not, we fix it.

what do other sponsors do?
It must be great to be that big but not when you run over other people's business and partner with the "wrong side"...

AFF is the only dating sponsor I see on most torrent, nfo's, fusker, boards,etc...I wonder why I don't see any other dating sponsor there I wonder why...


You use the size of the company as a excuse to ACCEPT illegal sites pushing the program? nice...

And don't give the "we try to make sure" bs cause a thread was created here showing lots of these sites pushing them and you guys done jack shit about it...

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Of course not. Just pay someone to run them.
I meant baddog's hosting and AVS networks -- he's done a good job of getting clients, affiliates, hardware, etc .. you can't knock what he's done with so little raw ability and resources.
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SO here is WHY I am pissed about this, he told a bunch of people he was my partner. Total bullshit ! So the people gave him money and other things off of my name. For the most part I had buried my resentments but this takes the cake. What a total scumbag. I only have one partner and that Is Andrew there have never been any other partners so if someone says they are they are full of shit, I can see from tthis thread this person still has a few people convinced of his bullshit lies and deceit.
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Out of the dozens (if not hundreds) of pages of stolen content, you conveniently pick one that has a banner for the program it is promoting.

You also conveniently skipped the first gallery listed on the left menu which is chock-full of stolen content (most of it watermarked) and no affiliate links. Or how about the Katie's World gallery that links Melissa Midwest.

Oh, and let's not forget the loads of stolen video content that requires visitors to sign up at AFF to see the videos.

http://www.bulletinboardforum.com/36...hirt_hose.html
That's WWE Diva Trish Stratus. WWE doesn't take kindly to content theft. And I'm sure they won't appreciate AFF ads next to the stolen content.

http://www.bulletinboardforum.com/32...th_dinner.html
Do you guys really take scat traffic?

Oh, and should we mention the lack of 2257 statements for all the content? Straight from your terms... "You agree to fully comply with 18 USC 2257 et seq, ("2257") including but not limited to its notice and recordkeeping requirements, as a condition precedent to your participation in this affiliate program or providing any traffic or links from your web pages to our Sites, graphics, web pages, and content or making use of the Program Materials."

"You hereby represent and warrant to us that materials posted on your site do not violate or infringe upon the rights of any third party (including, for example, copyrights, trademarks, privacy, or other personal or proprietary rights), and that materials posted on your site are not libelous or otherwise illegal. You must have express permission to use another party's copyrighted or other proprietary material."

Why state they MUST have express permission when you don't even bother to verify if they do?

Seems you guys really aren't keen on enforcing your terms and conditions when the guy breaking them is sending you volume.

That scat is just wrong
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SO here is WHY I am pissed about this, he told a bunch of people he was my partner. Total bullshit ! So the people gave him money and other things off of my name. For the most part I had buried my resentments but this takes the cake. What a total scumbag. I only have one partner and that Is Andrew there have never been any other partners so if someone says they are they are full of shit, I can see from tthis thread this person still has a few people convinced of his bullshit lies and deceit.


Welp.....here are my thoughts on this and we talked about this very thing standing at the pool at the Epoch party....."You are Lars....go look into the mirror...you are the fucking man!...this shit even being in your mind for a nano second is a waste of free rent in your head"

Great seeing you at the show...as always!

Looking forward again to Cabana 18 ...Internext Florida!
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Old 07-17-2006, 09:11 PM   #336
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ohh man you are such an asskisser...seriously...
I have been approached many times over the years to participate in a site that would name scammers programs. I have always refused because it is not good business to make your determinations based on the allegations of someone on a board.

You have been around a while. Did you ever go to AWI? Do you remember the scammer forum they had there? Remember how out of control it got?
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Old 07-17-2006, 09:13 PM   #337
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it is not good business to make your determinations based on the allegations of someone on a board
ding-ding!

And yet, welcome to GFY, eh?
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ding-ding!

And yet, welcome to GFY, eh?

I had to look twice, you are actually agreeing with me?
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Old 07-17-2006, 09:25 PM   #339
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Hmm, how much is rent in Lars's head? I'm sure it's expensive.

Does he have any 2 bedroom duplexes available? Is the listing on Craigslist?
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I had to look twice, you are actually agreeing with me?
When have I disagreed with you on something "real," you senile fuck?



I'm not Juicy -- I don't just spout off with fake drama to be a dick. I've got beef with you.
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When have I disagreed with you on something "real," you senile fuck?



I'm not Juicy -- I don't just spout off with fake drama to be a dick. I've got beef with you.

You have a beef with me? Spill it.
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oh, that's right, you are upset because someone you didn't like used your RSS feed, and you thought everyone should see it your way
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You have a beef with me? Spill it.
I'm mad because A) Gail and I are *not* gay, and if we were, I'd tell you, and B) you bumped a drama thread on Xbiz specifically to create additional drama between me and the scammer CyberXXX, when EVERYONE else was letting it die. Stephen deleted your bullshit, and you acted all like "Oh, I'm just a senile old man! What'd I do? VROOM VROOM I LIKE MOTORCYCLES!"
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oh, that's right, you are upset because someone you didn't like used your RSS feed, and you thought everyone should see it your way
No, that's not true.

Xbiz used a thread they weren't authorized to. I alerted him to this fact, and like a COCK, he said he had a right to it. Not true.

My beef with YOU is that you bumped it, acting all stupid (and, after speaking to you on the phone, I know you're NOT stupid) about it.

P.S. -- Gail and I are *not* gay. If we were, I'd tell you.
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after reading this entire thread, i wish i could get the time back i spent reading it....
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I'm mad because A) Gail and I are *not* gay, and if we were, I'd tell you, and B) you bumped a drama thread on Xbiz specifically to create additional drama between me and the scammer CyberXXX, when EVERYONE else was letting it die. Stephen deleted your bullshit, and you acted all like "Oh, I'm just a senile old man! What'd I do? VROOM VROOM I LIKE MOTORCYCLES!"
that made me cry
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I'm mad because A) Gail and I are *not* gay, and if we were, I'd tell you,

Who the fuck is Gail, and when did I ever comment on your sexual preference?
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Who the fuck is Gail, and when did I ever comment on your sexual preference?
Gail King. From here:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/TV/0....ap/index.html

NEW YORK (AP) -- Oprah Winfrey and her friend Gayle King want to be clear: they are not gay.

In the August issue of O, the Oprah Magazine, the talk-show host explains that some people misunderstand her close friendship with King.

"I understand why people think we're gay," she says. "There isn't a definition in our culture for this kind of bond between women. So I get why people have to label it -- how can you be this close without it being sexual?"

In a long article, Winfrey, 52, and King converse about their 30 years of friendship and "four-times-a-day phone calls."

The two friends say they would have no problem telling the public if they were in a sexual relationship.

"The truth is, if we were gay, we would tell you, because there's nothing wrong with being gay," says King.

Says Winfrey: "Something about this relationship feels otherworldly to me, like it was designed by a power and a hand greater than my own. Whatever this friendship is, it's been a very fun ride."
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that made me cry
Hold me tenderly.

I have to poop. I might be back later, but I can feel that this is going to be a big one.

I'm bringing my PSP in there. And a couple of books. Long books.
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so when we find out about these things, we do our best to do what is right.


my question of the moment: when we ban one of these people for doing it, they just put up one of our competitors the next moment and nobody calls them out
THat's a great excuse lol
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