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S P A N N O W · 07-13-2006, 09:51 PM

IMHO, the first volley of World War 3 was lobbed on February 26, 1993 - it was a dud. After regrouping and some careful planning it was executed again on September 11 successfully. After that it was game on. Agree or disagree, what are your thoughts?

StickyGreen · 07-13-2006, 09:53 PM

i agree, we've basically been in wwiii since then...it's just getting worse now...

pornguy · 07-13-2006, 09:53 PM

Disagree. I dont think that the first shot of a war can, or should be fired at yourself.

StickyGreen · 07-13-2006, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by pornguy

Disagree. I dont think that the first shot of a war can, or should be fired at yourself.

here we go........

S P A N N O W · 07-13-2006, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by pornguy

Disagree. I dont think that the first shot of a war can, or should be fired at yourself.

Huh? Do you even know what happened in '93? Google it...

S P A N N O W · 07-13-2006, 09:57 PM

This outta help...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Center_bombing

AmateurFlix · 07-13-2006, 09:58 PM

whatever skirmishes are going on or could go on in the middle east can hardly be called a "world war" - it's only one region. the only other area that is even being discussed is North Korea which lacks resources to fight a long war

ProducerCashDave · 07-13-2006, 09:59 PM

Ya its not WW

yet

czarina · 07-13-2006, 10:00 PM

Still.. wwIII would be devastating to our young population. The draft is a cloud hanging over our heads.

S P A N N O W · 07-13-2006, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by AmateurFlix

whatever skirmishes are going on or could go on in the middle east can hardly be called a "world war" - it's only one region. the only other area that is even being discussed is North Korea which lacks resources to fight a long war

Dude c'mon, let's see here...

World Trade Center '93
USS Cole
Marine barracks in North Africa
World Trade Center 2001
Spain train bombing
Russion grade school
Great Brittan subway bombing
India train bombs

Mind you I've left out about a dozen other World targets that have already been hit thus far....

S P A N N O W · 07-13-2006, 10:07 PM

The only reason the world is reluctant to call it a world war is because its unorthadox as hell - it's not a nation-sponsored war per se. It is a war of ideologies and nobody really knows how to deal with or how to address that yet...

Vendzilla · 07-13-2006, 10:09 PM

the world trade center was picked for a reason, it was a focal point of WORLD TRADE, not just US citizens, but Citizens of the WORLD, they did it twice.

S P A N N O W · 07-13-2006, 10:14 PM

"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." -- Albert Einstein

Vendzilla · 07-13-2006, 10:15 PM

you haven't talked about Mexico and Canada invading the US thru her borders to cause a strain on our economy

ProducerCashDave · 07-13-2006, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by S P A N N O W

"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." -- Albert Einstein

Man thats a trippy quote

SoniqHost · 07-13-2006, 10:18 PM

Nope, WWIII was the cold war and this the war on terrorism is WWIV

AmateurFlix · 07-13-2006, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by S P A N N O W

Dude c'mon, let's see here...

World Trade Center '93
USS Cole
Marine barracks in North Africa
World Trade Center 2001
Spain train bombing
Russion grade school
Great Brittan subway bombing
India train bombs

Mind you I've left out about a dozen other World targets that have already been hit thus far....

I see your point but it's not like WWI or WWII where there were many tens (hundreds?) of millions of people fighting on both sides. For that matter these events aren't even taking place concurrently, it's more like fighting a small mobile group.

ProducerCashDave · 07-13-2006, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SoniqHost

Nope, WWIII was the cold war and this the war on terrorism is WWIV

Welcome to GFY....

And how was the Cold War a World War, nothing was ever fought

Damian_Maxcash · 07-13-2006, 10:18 PM

Im not sure WW has ever been given a strict definition.

I guess we wont know the answer until its history and our grandchildren are being told about it in school.

Waveu6410 · 07-13-2006, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by czarina

Still.. wwIII would be devastating to our young population. The draft is a cloud hanging over our heads.

i'm thankful i only have a daughter and feel for all the young sons of this nation.

S P A N N O W · 07-13-2006, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SoniqHost

Nope, WWIII was the cold war and this the war on terrorism is WWIV

I disagree. The Cold War was the residual vying for position after the end of WWII that lasted a couple of decades.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 07-13-2006, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by S P A N N O W

Dude c'mon, let's see here...

World Trade Center '93
USS Cole
Marine barracks in North Africa
World Trade Center 2001
Spain train bombing
Russion grade school
Great Brittan subway bombing
India train bombs

Mind you I've left out about a dozen other World targets that have already been hit thus far....

U.S. Military actions since Vietnam:

Lebanon ('82-'84)
Grenada ('83)
Libya ('86)
Panama ('89)
Kuwait/Iraq ('91-'92)
Somalia ('92-'94)
Haiti ('93-94)
Bosnia ('95)
Afghanistan ('03-present)
Iraq ('03-present)

And we mustn't forget the U.S. support and involvement in other wars such as in Nicarauga, El Salvador, the Afghan-USSR conflict, the Iran-Iraq war, etc, etc, etc.

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SoniqHost · 07-13-2006, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BadBoy_Dave

Welcome to GFY....

And how was the Cold War a World War, nothing was ever fought

Thank you for the welcome, I would disagree with you about the Cold War had no fighting in it, as the war with Korea and the Vietnam war were all about stopping the spread of communism. Just because the United States and Russia didn't fight directly with each other doesn't mean it wasn't a world war.

S P A N N O W · 07-13-2006, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by AmateurFlix

I see your point but it's not like WWI or WWII where there were many tens (hundreds?) of millions of people fighting on both sides. For that matter these events aren't even taking place concurrently, it's more like fighting a small mobile group.

The world's citizens are fighting (albeit not physically) but idealogically right now on one side or the other of the War on Terrorism.

With respect to Muslims, they claim to not support Al Qaeda and its mandate yet they do nothing to stop it. If you don't denounce the terrorism - you quietly condone it. It was chanted recently in the streets of Iran on live television,"Freedom is the Great Satan!"

The same can be said on the side of the Free World. Collectively, the free world is against terrorism - this is no secret. But there are those among us who would pacify the enemy or rationalize "why" they hate us - while they're sawing off their head in an Al Jazeera video.

Some people get it. Some people dont. It will affect us all at some point.

Darkland · 07-13-2006, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by damian2001

Im not sure WW has ever been given a strict definition.

I guess we wont know the answer until its history and our grandchildren are being told about it in school.

Sure it has:

1. A war in which the major nations of the world are involved

2. A world war is a military conflict affecting the majority of the world's countries. World wars usually span multiple continents.

Rochard · 07-13-2006, 10:36 PM

This is not even close to a world war and will not be.

WWII was fought between dozens and dozens. Battles were fought in the US (Hawaii), the entire Pacific, Japan, China, Russia, the entire Middle East, Africa, and all of Europe. The only place that was somewhat safe was South America.

So far this is just the Middle East.

ProducerCashDave · 07-13-2006, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SoniqHost

Thank you for the welcome, I would disagree with you about the Cold War had no fighting in it, as the war with Korea and the Vietnam war were all about stopping the spread of communism. Just because the United States and Russia didn't fight directly with each other doesn't mean it wasn't a world war.

That was Containment-stopping the spread of communism.

Vietnam and Korea are seperate from the Cold War.

Cold War was the tension and the arms race between the U.S. and Soviets,

but the Vietnam and Korean War was to stop the spread of communism.

Both the Norths invading the southern parts, Vietnam and Korea.

AmateurFlix · 07-13-2006, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by S P A N N O W

The world's citizens are fighting (albeit not physically) but idealogically right now on one side or the other of the War on Terrorism.

war is defined by physical acts, not by idealogical differences of non-combatants

S P A N N O W · 07-13-2006, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

This is not even close to a world war and will not be.

WWII was fought between dozens and dozens. Battles were fought in the US (Hawaii), the entire Pacific, Japan, China, Russia, the entire Middle East, Africa, and all of Europe. The only place that was somewhat safe was South America.

So far this is just the Middle East.

You keep tellin' yourself that scooter...

L0rdJuni0r · 07-13-2006, 10:40 PM

we are all going to die...

S P A N N O W · 07-13-2006, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AmateurFlix

war is defined by physical acts, not by idealogical differences of non-combatants

Times change. And blowing ones self up in public meets my criteria of a physical act.

ProducerCashDave · 07-13-2006, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AmateurFlix

war is defined by physical acts, not by idealogical differences of non-combatants

What he said

S P A N N O W · 07-13-2006, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by L0rdJuni0r

we are all going to die...

That much IS certain, some day...

AmateurFlix · 07-13-2006, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by S P A N N O W

Times change.

definitions do not

S P A N N O W · 07-13-2006, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by AmateurFlix

definitions do not

O'rly, tell that to the constitution. Or has it never been amended either? It is the nature things to change and/or evolve.

Adultnet · 07-13-2006, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

This is not even close to a world war and will not be.

WWII was fought between dozens and dozens. Battles were fought in the US (Hawaii), the entire Pacific, Japan, China, Russia, the entire Middle East, Africa, and all of Europe. The only place that was somewhat safe was South America.

So far this is just the Middle East.

yes

diggz · 07-13-2006, 10:52 PM

If you are considering the idealogical, extremist muslim attacks on other nations as an act of World War 3... then World War 3 has been going on since before Christopher Columbus was working on a new trade route around that forsaken section of Earth back in the 1400's.

S P A N N O W · 07-13-2006, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by diggz

If you are considering the idealogical, extremist muslim attacks on other nations as an act of World War 3... then World War 3 has been going on since before Christopher Columbus was working on a new trade route around that forsaken section of Earth back in the 1400's.

Quite right. YOU get it!

S P A N N O W · 07-13-2006, 11:00 PM

I'm just fucking with ya. Who knows if this is IT or not. Just wanted to make you think about it for a quick minute...

madko · 07-13-2006, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

the world trade center was picked for a reason, it was a focal point of WORLD TRADE, not just US citizens, but Citizens of the WORLD, they did it twice.

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD...... u realy think u r the center of the world...

flashfire · 07-13-2006, 11:10 PM

fuck the draft, I'll go live in the woods

S P A N N O W · 07-13-2006, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by flashfire

fuck the draft, I'll go live in the woods

Like this cat?

diggz · 07-13-2006, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by S P A N N O W

Quite right. YOU get it!

madko · 07-13-2006, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

U.S. Military actions since Vietnam:

Lebanon ('82-'84)
Grenada ('83)
Libya ('86)
Panama ('89)
Kuwait/Iraq ('91-'92)
Somalia ('92-'94)
Haiti ('93-94)
Bosnia ('95)
Afghanistan ('03-present)
Iraq ('03-present)

And we mustn't forget the U.S. support and involvement in other wars such as in Nicarauga, El Salvador, the Afghan-USSR conflict, the Iran-Iraq war, etc, etc, etc.

ADG Webmaster

looking at this list... i'm thinking... who the fuck is the terrorist here?.. do you know any other country to fight wars..with so many countryes?... what the fuck.... am i the only one in here that realise this?.... u start so many wars....and u espect that people love u

))... it's cristal clear...that...all the people on those countryes hate US.... GOD HELP US!!!

S P A N N O W · 07-13-2006, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by madko

looking at this list... i'm thinking... who the fuck is the terrorist here?.. do you know any other country to fight wars..with so many countryes?... what the fuck.... am i the only one in here that realise this?.... u start so many wars....and u espect that people love u

))... it's cristal clear...that...all the people on those countryes hate US.... GOD HELP US!!!

Hello, police?

giftedtwisted · 07-13-2006, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by S P A N N O W

Dude c'mon, let's see here...

World Trade Center '93
USS Cole
Marine barracks in North Africa
World Trade Center 2001
Spain train bombing
Russion grade school
Great Brittan subway bombing
India train bombs

Mind you I've left out about a dozen other World targets that have already been hit thus far....

Yeah I agree that in sense it is wwiii, but not by conventional standards
The US didn't declare war until post 9/11. The pasific theater is only just starting to heat up to a serious issue that may call for a use of force.

In a philosphical sense I agree but I don't think that we are technically in a WWIII state just yet.

The situation with Isreal has been much worse in the past and will never be resolved until someones back is broken.

The world has been in a constant state of war in almost every hemisphere for a long time.

I think WWIII will have to include either the perverbial "button being pressed" OR another set of allied nations all declaring war on common enemy nations.

It's conceivable that the next "axis" will be a combination or Iran, Korea, Syria, some form of unified Faction of terrorists, and possibly China??? who knows I'm just speculating.

Webby · 07-13-2006, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by madko

looking at this list... i'm thinking... who the fuck is the terrorist here?.. do you know any other country to fight wars..with so many countryes?... what the fuck.... am i the only one in here that realise this?.... u start so many wars....and u espect that people love u

))... it's cristal clear...that...all the people on those countryes hate US.... GOD HELP US!!!

If it was not so sad, it would be funny madko.

Tho AsianDivaGirlsWebDude just rounded on the rest:

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And we mustn't forget the U.S. support and involvement in other wars such as in Nicarauga, El Salvador, the Afghan-USSR conflict, the Iran-Iraq war, etc, etc, etc.

Nica and El Salvador was nothing to be proud about. Afghan-USSR was the time Osama was a good friend and supported with arms. Iran-Iraq - Saddam, another good friend at that time, - was armed and encouraged to instigate a war with Iran.

Bottom line.. who exactly are the "terrorists" and arms traders - makes ya wonder

jayeff · 07-13-2006, 11:27 PM

Excluding the numbers coming out of Iraq, global terrorist activity peaked during approximately a decade beginning in the late 1970's. That apart, can you really call fewer than 500 deaths a year (in most years) a world war?

Rochard · 07-13-2006, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by S P A N N O W

You keep tellin' yourself that scooter...

Spannow and I did the lunch the other day when this subject came up.

The different here pretty boy is that in order for this to be called a World War, there would have to be fighting in Africa (Egypt), Europe, Russia, Japan, and China.

Now, if North Korea starts bombing people and Japan gets into, then we are talking.

Kimo · 07-13-2006, 11:49 PM

i agree spanno

07-13-2006, 09:51 PM	#1
S P A N N O W Everywhere You Wanna Be! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: NorCal Posts: 11,941	WWIII started on... IMHO, the first volley of World War 3 was lobbed on February 26, 1993 - it was a dud. After regrouping and some careful planning it was executed again on September 11 successfully. After that it was game on. Agree or disagree, what are your thoughts? __________________ Ambush Last edited by S P A N N O W; 07-13-2006 at 10:49 PM..

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pornguy Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Homeless Posts: 62,911	Disagree. I dont think that the first shot of a war can, or should be fired at yourself. __________________ PornGuy skype me pornguy_epic AmateurDough The Hottes Shemales online! TChicks.com \| Angeles Cid \| Mariana Cordoba \| MAILERS WELCOME!

07-13-2006, 09:57 PM	#6
S P A N N O W Everywhere You Wanna Be! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: NorCal Posts: 11,941	This outta help... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Center_bombing __________________ Ambush

07-13-2006, 09:58 PM	#7
AmateurFlix Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 7,762	whatever skirmishes are going on or could go on in the middle east can hardly be called a "world war" - it's only one region. the only other area that is even being discussed is North Korea which lacks resources to fight a long war __________________

07-13-2006, 09:59 PM	#8
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07-13-2006, 10:00 PM	#9
czarina Webmaster Extraordinaire Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: A beautiful beach... Posts: 10,748	Still.. wwIII would be devastating to our young population. The draft is a cloud hanging over our heads.

07-13-2006, 10:07 PM	#11
S P A N N O W Everywhere You Wanna Be! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: NorCal Posts: 11,941	The only reason the world is reluctant to call it a world war is because its unorthadox as hell - it's not a nation-sponsored war per se. It is a war of ideologies and nobody really knows how to deal with or how to address that yet... __________________ Ambush

07-13-2006, 10:09 PM	#12
Vendzilla Biker Gnome Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: cell#324 Posts: 23,200	the world trade center was picked for a reason, it was a focal point of WORLD TRADE, not just US citizens, but Citizens of the WORLD, they did it twice. __________________ Webair died? Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants think about that

07-13-2006, 10:14 PM	#13
S P A N N O W Everywhere You Wanna Be! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: NorCal Posts: 11,941	"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." -- Albert Einstein __________________ Ambush

07-13-2006, 10:15 PM	#14
Vendzilla Biker Gnome Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: cell#324 Posts: 23,200	you haven't talked about Mexico and Canada invading the US thru her borders to cause a strain on our economy __________________ Webair died? Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants think about that

07-13-2006, 10:18 PM	#16
SoniqHost Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 4	Nope, WWIII was the cold war and this the war on terrorism is WWIV

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Damian_Maxcash So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: MaxCash.com Posts: 12,745	Im not sure WW has ever been given a strict definition. I guess we wont know the answer until its history and our grandchildren are being told about it in school.

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Rochard Jägermeister Test Pilot Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NORCAL Posts: 74,290	This is not even close to a world war and will not be. WWII was fought between dozens and dozens. Battles were fought in the US (Hawaii), the entire Pacific, Japan, China, Russia, the entire Middle East, Africa, and all of Europe. The only place that was somewhat safe was South America. So far this is just the Middle East. __________________ “The choice is no longer between right or left. The choice is between normal and crazy.” - Sarah Huckabee Sanders YNOT MAIL \| THE BEST ADULT MAILING SOLUTION

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diggz Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Sig Spot. Check. Posts: 302	If you are considering the idealogical, extremist muslim attacks on other nations as an act of World War 3... then World War 3 has been going on since before Christopher Columbus was working on a new trade route around that forsaken section of Earth back in the 1400's.

07-13-2006, 11:00 PM	#39
S P A N N O W Everywhere You Wanna Be! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: NorCal Posts: 11,941	I'm just fucking with ya. Who knows if this is IT or not. Just wanted to make you think about it for a quick minute... __________________ Ambush Last edited by S P A N N O W; 07-13-2006 at 11:03 PM..

07-13-2006, 11:10 PM	#41
flashfire ICQ 1 6 7 8 5 3 4 9 2 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 13,098	fuck the draft, I'll go live in the woods

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jayeff Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 2,944	Excluding the numbers coming out of Iraq, global terrorist activity peaked during approximately a decade beginning in the late 1970's. That apart, can you really call fewer than 500 deaths a year (in most years) a world war?

07-13-2006, 11:49 PM	#50
Kimo ... Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Maryland ICQ:87038677 Posts: 11,542	i agree spanno __________________ ...