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LiveDose · 07-10-2006, 01:57 AM

No doubt, the amount of money ifriends is making daily is absolutely insane. I had a girl on there when there used to be 10-12 girls live. The way ifriends has blown up is amazing.

will76 · 07-10-2006, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by shap

If you knew how much AFF was worth you'd be contacting the mods to have your post removed. Dre trust me AFF is in a COMPLETELY different league from Ifriends. COMPLETELY different.

worth is determined by how much do you generate in income.

So how much do you think AFF generates?

will76 · 07-10-2006, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by shap

I hope you are joking. There is no way ifriends is worth NEAR as much as AFF. i would go so far to say AFF is probably easily worth double ifriends.

Aff is in the top 25 most visited sites on the web AND they make HUGE profit. Compare that to myspace, which from my understanding, at the time Murdoch bought them was all traffic little revenue. AFF is worth alot more than you think.

you are crazy. "visits" dont really mean much.

How many CURRENT / PAYING members do you think they have. I know the site says 20 million members, but i bet that is from day one, including free members, fake members, non current members, spam, etc...

even if you say they have 100,000 current paying members, what do they charge a month ? $20 ?? ( i am not even sure) what is that 2 million for the month. Hell say they have 250,000 current paying members, 5 million.

Ifriends is making AT LEAST 500,000 a day, x 30 = 15million

will76 · 07-10-2006, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by will76

I gurantee you that ifriends generates 20x shit probably 100x more money then AFF generates.

after doing math, i retract my statement above. AFF not doing too bad, but I still think ifriends makes more.

magic number is how many paying members AFF has (curent, paying members).

Ace_luffy · 07-10-2006, 03:42 AM

congratz if it's true

HairToStay · 07-10-2006, 03:55 AM

iFriends may be pulling in $500k a day according to will76, but they are also paying out $40-$80 per sale. AFF pays out $15 or less.

AFF has 20 million members plus a dozen other websites under their umbrella making a lot of cash each day as well. It's not just monthly fees, either. They charge for private chat rooms now, they charge for every upgrade you want, etc.

Shap · 07-10-2006, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by will76

I gurantee you that ifriends generates 20x shit probably 100x more money then AFF generates.

Think about it how many members does aff have x how much do their members pay for membership.

Ifriends has over 1,000 chathost on at any giving time. if just 10% of the girls have 1 paying customers, that is 100x $2 (average) $200 per min $288,000 a day (very very low estimate). Now throw in all the 6.95 rebilling a month, and all the FC sales, and other upgrades and i bet that averages out to over 500K a day gross. Do you think AFF grosses that much in a day ?

AFF Makes WAY MORE. AFF Has 23 Million Active Members. Once they hook people up (which happens ALOT) those people are AFF until they get married LOL. Ifriends no doubt is big but can't be compared to AFF.

Shap · 07-10-2006, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by will76

you are crazy. "visits" dont really mean much.

How many CURRENT / PAYING members do you think they have. I know the site says 20 million members, but i bet that is from day one, including free members, fake members, non current members, spam, etc...

even if you say they have 100,000 current paying members, what do they charge a month ? $20 ?? ( i am not even sure) what is that 2 million for the month. Hell say they have 250,000 current paying members, 5 million.

Ifriends is making AT LEAST 500,000 a day, x 30 = 15million

I'm not going to get into an arguement over this. It doesn't matter. Believe what you will.

Dion · 07-10-2006, 09:36 AM

anyone from ifriends wana step up?

Xenophage · 07-10-2006, 10:35 AM

Hhahaha Sorry to burst your bubble Will but I know first hand that Adult Friend Finder blows away Ifriends. Its not even close. In fact if you took cams.com and one of the other top 3 cam companies and combined them the combination would be bigger than Ifriends. often at peak times cams has 600 models online now, Ifriends rarely has more than 900 real models online, as they claim 2000 or whatever but they are the same chick packaged under a different name LOL all smoke and mirrors. Ifriends has been loosing market share for years as all the competition is exploding. Adult Friend Finder out converts traffic way way better than Ifriends could ever hope to dream of.

Dion · 07-10-2006, 10:37 AM

Lars is stepping up to the plate now ;)

Some ifriends rivalry! I love it!

Doctor Dre · 07-10-2006, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by damian2001

Of course AFF are bigger than IFriends.....

I doubt they have even been on the same magnitude of scale for the last 18 months.

I have to say I was pretty shocked to see this from you Dr Dre....

ok maybe ... AFF has been growing insanely I gotta agree... I'm basing my opinions on some information some big boys said...

Xenophage · 07-10-2006, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

ok maybe ... AFF has been growing insanely I gotta agree... I'm basing my opinions on some information some big boys said...

I think you are missing the point of this conversation.

Yes cams is still smaller than ifriends.

Adult Friend Finder is way way way bigger than ifriends.

I am basing my information on knowing the facts as an owner of the company LOL

SleazyDream · 07-10-2006, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76

after doing math, i retract my statement above. AFF not doing too bad, but I still think ifriends makes more.

magic number is how many paying members AFF has (curent, paying members).

i'd bet money and a LOT of it AFF is WAY bigger

cams is CLOSE in size to ifriends, very close - cams might even be bigger now to be honest - and aff swallowed cams without even burbing

Shap · 07-10-2006, 10:46 AM

Finally i get some backup. I wasn't sure if you wanted to come in to set the record straight Lars.

Xenophage · 07-10-2006, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by shap

Finally i get some backup. I wasn't sure if you wanted to come in to set the record straight Lars.

Yeah its like saying friendster is bigger than myspace

Shap · 07-10-2006, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars

Yeah its like saying friendster is bigger than myspace

Ahh good ole GFY. Gotta love what people believe to be the reality. I saw a thread where people were claiming we are successful only because of a photographer i hired in February 06. I hope he doesn't try a hostile takeover.

GTS Mark · 07-10-2006, 11:04 AM

I Love AFF, Lars and their media buyers

DH

will76 · 07-10-2006, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegendaryLars

Hhahaha Sorry to burst your bubble Will but I know first hand that Adult Friend Finder blows away Ifriends. Its not even close. In fact if you took cams.com and one of the other top 3 cam companies and combined them the combination would be bigger than Ifriends. often at peak times cams has 600 models online now, Ifriends rarely has more than 900 real models online, as they claim 2000 or whatever but they are the same chick packaged under a different name LOL all smoke and mirrors. Ifriends has been loosing market share for years as all the competition is exploding. Adult Friend Finder out converts traffic way way better than Ifriends could ever hope to dream of.

How many active paying customers does AFF have ?

will76 · 07-10-2006, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

i'd bet money and a LOT of it AFF is WAY bigger

cams is CLOSE in size to ifriends, very close - cams might even be bigger now to be honest - and aff swallowed cams without even burbing

i bet you money cams i not and i base my information as coming from lars.... take the bet ?

will76 · 07-10-2006, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars

Yeah its like saying friendster is bigger than myspace

I am sure you know how much AFF makes but all of this is assuming you know how much ifriends makes, i could be way off in the amounts that i through out there, that was just a guess on my part.

care to disclouse how much AFF grosses in a year ?

will76 · 07-10-2006, 11:15 AM

BTW, ifriends is not being sold.

Someone must have been bored and started a rumor for shits and giggles.

Dion · 07-10-2006, 11:18 AM

will76,

source?

Nikki_Licks · 07-10-2006, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

The alexa stats are lying... I'd be really surprised that AFF is bigger then ifriends...

That'd be the biggest sale in adult ever... that's just crazy.

if they get a new management they'll get even bigger... too many people boycotting them right now

Did you mean that too many people are boycotting iFriends or AFF ? and if so Why?

Shap · 07-10-2006, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76

I am sure you know how much AFF makes but all of this is assuming you know how much ifriends makes, i could be way off in the amounts that i through out there, that was just a guess on my part.

care to disclouse how much AFF grosses in a year ?

take what you think ifriends makes multiply by 3 and all of a sudden you are headed in the right direction but only headed in the right direction.

Paul · 07-10-2006, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by pussyluver

Who around would be be a likely buyer? Who in the industry is in the $ league of WebPower? RK? Sounds like just a rumor to me.

Lars perhaps ? Maybe even a joint venture from Lars and AFF ?

What better way to expand your business than to buy up your competition, its killing 2 birds with one stone !

will76 · 07-10-2006, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dion

will76,

source?

my source is more credible then "internet gossip".

will76 · 07-10-2006, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by shap

take what you think ifriends makes multiply by 3 and all of a sudden you are headed in the right direction but only headed in the right direction.

So you saying that AFF is grossing over 1/2 billion a year ?

Dion · 07-10-2006, 01:10 PM

Internet gossip?

No these are from the guys who made this suspposed offer.

Webby · 07-10-2006, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dion

Internet gossip?

No these are from the guys who made this suspposed offer.

Basically some "guys" who presumably allege they have financial backing and presumably a reason as to why they would wish to purchase iFriends, have made a "supposed offer" - according to them.

So.. assuming the "supposed offer" does in fact exist and has now been made, the "guys" then switch to "dumb mode" and tell others they have made an offer? What's the gossip on that? They have an ego problem or a spy in the camp?

That is exactly what is known as "internet gossip". Whether there is *any* basis for the story is another issue, but chances are it was 99% "Manufactured by GFY", which as is well-known - means it is oozing with credibility

Dion · 07-10-2006, 03:40 PM

Anybody who says a non-adult or adult company wouldn't be able to come up with the financing for a $100,000,000 - $300,000,000 purchase is unrealistic.

With $30 mil - $50 mil in the bank, you will have much more borrowing power than $300 mil.

Doable, yeah. Risky, hell yeah! LOL

But you know, Paul Allen spends $300 mil on a yacht, and $20 mil a year just to maintain it. People do and spend crazy things

Xenophage · 07-10-2006, 05:16 PM

I am not going to disclose how much we make, however if ifriends is for sale I would be hapopy to buy it from Al as he was my second sponsor ever with Amature Hardcore first being Cybererotica. If I was a betting man I would put Ifriends total monthly revs at around 6-12 million.

Xenophage · 07-10-2006, 05:17 PM

http://online.wsj.com/public/article... main_tff_top

XPays · 07-10-2006, 05:23 PM

I'm not in the business of counting other people's money but the nightsurf deal ifriends has had in the past is a wildcard in all of your formulas here.

Dion · 07-10-2006, 05:31 PM

Lars,

How much would you sell me AFF for, maybe you can throw cams in as a bonus buy?

mrthumbs · 07-10-2006, 05:44 PM

9 figures

Pornwolf · 07-10-2006, 06:16 PM

I can see the mainstream guys trying to make offers for IFriends all the time. It's hunting season for high profile adult sites.

silver · 07-10-2006, 06:21 PM

How many other programs are using i-friends as thier backend ?
I know ARS's HSN site uses ifriends as thier backend.

Rui · 07-10-2006, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shap

AFF Makes WAY MORE. AFF Has 23 Million Active Members. Once they hook people up (which happens ALOT) those people are AFF until they get married LOL. Ifriends no doubt is big but can't be compared to AFF.

you honestly belive in that...ohh boy

Shap · 07-10-2006, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rui

you honestly belive in that...ohh boy

Well i'm friends with Lars so i go on what he tells me.

Xenophage · 07-10-2006, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by XPays

I'm not in the business of counting other people's money but the nightsurf deal ifriends has had in the past is a wildcard in all of your formulas here.

Yes I am not saying they were huge in teh past the nightsurf deal was huge, but rememebr they used to have exclusive on most of the major search engines, and slowly they got wittled down and msn is gonna drop them soon enough.

will76 · 07-10-2006, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars

http://online.wsj.com/public/article... main_tff_top

Actualy that article supports my position IMO. It says " The FriendFinder Network also includes such wide-ranging dating sites as JewishFriendFinder, KoreanFriendFinder and OutPersonals. The network is profitable, Mr. Conru said, but he declined to provide any details beyond saying that it generates "more than $100 million" in annual revenue. "

If someone says "more then $100 million" i doubt it is much more then that. If it was over 200 million he would have said " more then 200 million"... seems logical to me but may be wrong. I was guessing ifriends to be at 15million month, 180 million annualy.

. But i think it is apparent that AFF doesn't blow them away, if they even beat them at all. Lets just say they both make a lot of fucking money.

Webby · 07-10-2006, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dion

Anybody who says a non-adult or adult company wouldn't be able to come up with the financing for a $100,000,000 - $300,000,000 purchase is unrealistic.

Sure Dion - not saying folks can't come up with funds - *anyone* can raise *anything* if the price/prospects are right and cred is there. It was just the rumour that was... well... rough at the edges. Folks in the middle of deals don't normally even whisper about them.

Webby · 07-10-2006, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dion

Lars,

How much would you sell me AFF for, maybe you can throw cams in as a bonus buy?

DUH????

JOKER · 07-10-2006, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

Actualy that article supports my position IMO. It says " The FriendFinder Network also includes such wide-ranging dating sites as JewishFriendFinder, KoreanFriendFinder and OutPersonals. The network is profitable, Mr. Conru said, but he declined to provide any details beyond saying that it generates "more than $100 million" in annual revenue. "

If someone says "more then $100 million" i doubt it is much more then that. If it was over 200 million he would have said " more then 200 million"... seems logical to me but may be wrong. I was guessing ifriends to be at 15million month, 180 million annualy.

. But i think it is apparent that AFF doesn't blow them away, if they even beat them at all. Lets just say they both make a lot of fucking money.

Have you ever heard or seen that Andrew brags about money? *duh*

I'm quite sure he would give lower numbers to any press-related source

TheJimmy · 07-11-2006, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars

... but rememebr they used to have exclusive on most of the major search engines, and slowly they got wittled down and msn is gonna drop them soon enough.

They did have that for a long run...

Xenophage · 07-11-2006, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by TheJimmy

They did have that for a long run...

Agreed but when it stopped their money and traffic dropped dramatically, Will Ifriends was only doing 15 million in its hay day when it had nightsurf and owned the engines, they are lucky if they do 6-10 mil a month now. I am very confident we are much larger than ifriends is or even ever was. You can read that for what its worth.

Dion · 07-11-2006, 08:30 AM

6 - 10 mil a mo non-peek is still pretty good

Hammer · 07-11-2006, 07:52 PM

This just in. Hammer buys iFriends.

Theo · 07-11-2006, 08:05 PM

AFF is much bigger than ifriends

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Xenophage Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 12,122	Hhahaha Sorry to burst your bubble Will but I know first hand that Adult Friend Finder blows away Ifriends. Its not even close. In fact if you took cams.com and one of the other top 3 cam companies and combined them the combination would be bigger than Ifriends. often at peak times cams has 600 models online now, Ifriends rarely has more than 900 real models online, as they claim 2000 or whatever but they are the same chick packaged under a different name LOL all smoke and mirrors. Ifriends has been loosing market share for years as all the competition is exploding. Adult Friend Finder out converts traffic way way better than Ifriends could ever hope to dream of.

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Dion Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 473	Anybody who says a non-adult or adult company wouldn't be able to come up with the financing for a $100,000,000 - $300,000,000 purchase is unrealistic. With $30 mil - $50 mil in the bank, you will have much more borrowing power than $300 mil. Doable, yeah. Risky, hell yeah! LOL But you know, Paul Allen spends $300 mil on a yacht, and $20 mil a year just to maintain it. People do and spend crazy things __________________ Need marketing? E-mail [email protected] Targeted marketing solutions for mortgage, pharmacy, & other markets! 500 person call center & professional opt-in e-mailing! Leaseing of call-center employees for inbound / outbound calling for your company avail. as well! ICQ 314-057-141

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