No doubt, the amount of money ifriends is making daily is absolutely insane. I had a girl on there when there used to be 10-12 girls live. The way ifriends has blown up is amazing.
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Originally posted by shap
worth is determined by how much do you generate in income.
So how much do you think AFF generates?ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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you are crazy. "visits" dont really mean much.Originally posted by shap
How many CURRENT / PAYING members do you think they have. I know the site says 20 million members, but i bet that is from day one, including free members, fake members, non current members, spam, etc...
even if you say they have 100,000 current paying members, what do they charge a month ? $20 ?? ( i am not even sure) what is that 2 million for the month. Hell say they have 250,000 current paying members, 5 million.
Ifriends is making AT LEAST 500,000 a day, x 30 = 15millionICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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after doing math, i retract my statement above. AFF not doing too bad, but I still think ifriends makes more.Originally posted by will76
magic number is how many paying members AFF has (curent, paying members).ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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congratz if it's true
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iFriends may be pulling in $500k a day according to will76, but they are also paying out $40-$80 per sale. AFF pays out $15 or less.
AFF has 20 million members plus a dozen other websites under their umbrella making a lot of cash each day as well. It's not just monthly fees, either. They charge for private chat rooms now, they charge for every upgrade you want, etc.Make bank by giving your surfers free pics every day and it costs you NOTHING! Use POTD Sponsors to find adult sponsors in more than 75 niches who offer a POTD feature!Comment
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AFF Makes WAY MORE. AFF Has 23 Million Active Members. Once they hook people up (which happens ALOT) those people are AFF until they get married LOL. Ifriends no doubt is big but can't be compared to AFF.Originally posted by will76Comment
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I'm not going to get into an arguement over this. It doesn't matter. Believe what you will.Originally posted by will76Comment
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Hhahaha Sorry to burst your bubble Will but I know first hand that Adult Friend Finder blows away Ifriends. Its not even close. In fact if you took cams.com and one of the other top 3 cam companies and combined them the combination would be bigger than Ifriends. often at peak times cams has 600 models online now, Ifriends rarely has more than 900 real models online, as they claim 2000 or whatever but they are the same chick packaged under a different name LOL all smoke and mirrors. Ifriends has been loosing market share for years as all the competition is exploding. Adult Friend Finder out converts traffic way way better than Ifriends could ever hope to dream of.Comment
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Lars is stepping up to the plate now ;)
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ok maybe ... AFF has been growing insanely I gotta agree... I'm basing my opinions on some information some big boys said...Originally posted by damian2001Of course AFF are bigger than IFriends.....
I doubt they have even been on the same magnitude of scale for the last 18 months.
I have to say I was pretty shocked to see this from you Dr Dre....
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Originally posted by Doctor Dre
I think you are missing the point of this conversation.
Yes cams is still smaller than ifriends.
Adult Friend Finder is way way way bigger than ifriends.
I am basing my information on knowing the facts as an owner of the company LOLComment
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i'd bet money and a LOT of it AFF is WAY biggerOriginally posted by will76
cams is CLOSE in size to ifriends, very close - cams might even be bigger now to be honest - and aff swallowed cams without even burbingThis dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!
Now read without the word dog.Comment
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Finally i get some backup. I wasn't sure if you wanted to come in to set the record straight Lars.
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Originally posted by shapFinally i get some backup. I wasn't sure if you wanted to come in to set the record straight Lars.
Yeah its like saying friendster is bigger than myspace
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Ahh good ole GFY. Gotta love what people believe to be the reality. I saw a thread where people were claiming we are successful only because of a photographer i hired in February 06. I hope he doesn't try a hostile takeover.Originally posted by LegendaryLarsYeah its like saying friendster is bigger than myspaceComment
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I Love AFF, Lars and their media buyers
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Originally posted by LegendaryLars
How many active paying customers does AFF have ?ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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i bet you money cams i not and i base my information as coming from lars.... take the bet ?Originally posted by SleazyDreamICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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Originally posted by LegendaryLarsYeah its like saying friendster is bigger than myspace
I am sure you know how much AFF makes but all of this is assuming you know how much ifriends makes, i could be way off in the amounts that i through out there, that was just a guess on my part.
care to disclouse how much AFF grosses in a year ?ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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BTW, ifriends is not being sold.
Someone must have been bored and started a rumor for shits and giggles.ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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will76,
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Did you mean that too many people are boycotting iFriends or AFF ? and if so Why?Originally posted by Doctor DreAmateur ContentICQ: 292 356 077Comment
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take what you think ifriends makes multiply by 3 and all of a sudden you are headed in the right direction but only headed in the right direction.Originally posted by will76Comment
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Lars perhaps ? Maybe even a joint venture from Lars and AFF ?Originally posted by pussyluver
What better way to expand your business than to buy up your competition, its killing 2 birds with one stone !Comment
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my source is more credible then "internet gossip".Originally posted by DionICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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Originally posted by shap
So you saying that AFF is grossing over 1/2 billion a year ?ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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Internet gossip?
No these are from the guys who made this suspposed offer.Need marketing? E-mail [email protected]
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Basically some "guys" who presumably allege they have financial backing and presumably a reason as to why they would wish to purchase iFriends, have made a "supposed offer" - according to them.Originally posted by Dion
So.. assuming the "supposed offer" does in fact exist and has now been made, the "guys" then switch to "dumb mode" and tell others they have made an offer? What's the gossip on that? They have an ego problem or a spy in the camp?
That is exactly what is known as "internet gossip". Whether there is *any* basis for the story is another issue, but chances are it was 99% "Manufactured by GFY", which as is well-known - means it is oozing with credibility
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Anybody who says a non-adult or adult company wouldn't be able to come up with the financing for a $100,000,000 - $300,000,000 purchase is unrealistic.
With $30 mil - $50 mil in the bank, you will have much more borrowing power than $300 mil.
Doable, yeah. Risky, hell yeah! LOL
But you know, Paul Allen spends $300 mil on a yacht, and $20 mil a year just to maintain it. People do and spend crazy things
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I am not going to disclose how much we make, however if ifriends is for sale I would be hapopy to buy it from Al as he was my second sponsor ever with Amature Hardcore first being Cybererotica. If I was a betting man I would put Ifriends total monthly revs at around 6-12 million.Comment
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I'm not in the business of counting other people's money but the nightsurf deal ifriends has had in the past is a wildcard in all of your formulas here.InterNext Expo Domain Auction Live Now thru Feb 5
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Lars,
How much would you sell me AFF for, maybe you can throw cams in as a bonus buy?
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9 figuresComment
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I can see the mainstream guys trying to make offers for IFriends all the time. It's hunting season for high profile adult sites.I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...
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How many other programs are using i-friends as thier backend ?
I know ARS's HSN site uses ifriends as thier backend.yay
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you honestly belive in that...ohh boyOriginally posted by shap
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Well i'm friends with Lars so i go on what he tells me.Originally posted by Ruiyou honestly belive in that...ohh boy
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Originally posted by XPays
Yes I am not saying they were huge in teh past the nightsurf deal was huge, but rememebr they used to have exclusive on most of the major search engines, and slowly they got wittled down and msn is gonna drop them soon enough.Comment
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Originally posted by LegendaryLars
Actualy that article supports my position IMO. It says " The FriendFinder Network also includes such wide-ranging dating sites as JewishFriendFinder, KoreanFriendFinder and OutPersonals. The network is profitable, Mr. Conru said, but he declined to provide any details beyond saying that it generates "more than $100 million" in annual revenue. "
If someone says "more then $100 million" i doubt it is much more then that. If it was over 200 million he would have said " more then 200 million"... seems logical to me but may be wrong. I was guessing ifriends to be at 15million month, 180 million annualy.
. But i think it is apparent that AFF doesn't blow them away, if they even beat them at all. Lets just say they both make a lot of fucking money.ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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Sure Dion - not saying folks can't come up with funds - *anyone* can raise *anything* if the price/prospects are right and cred is there. It was just the rumour that was... well... rough at the edges. Folks in the middle of deals don't normally even whisper about them.Originally posted by DionXXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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DUH????Originally posted by DionLars,
How much would you sell me AFF for, maybe you can throw cams in as a bonus buy?
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Have you ever heard or seen that Andrew brags about money? *duh*Originally posted by will76
I'm quite sure he would give lower numbers to any press-related source
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They did have that for a long run...Originally posted by LegendaryLars
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Agreed but when it stopped their money and traffic dropped dramatically, Will Ifriends was only doing 15 million in its hay day when it had nightsurf and owned the engines, they are lucky if they do 6-10 mil a month now. I am very confident we are much larger than ifriends is or even ever was. You can read that for what its worth.Originally posted by TheJimmyThey did have that for a long run...
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6 - 10 mil a mo non-peek is still pretty good
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AFF is much bigger than ifriendsComment
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