MikyMunki QUIT COPYING MY BLOG POSTS AND IMAGES - GoFuckYourself.com

BSleazy · 07-07-2006, 11:34 AM

Unless your linking back.

FUCK AUTOBLOGGER PRO!

baddog · 07-07-2006, 11:36 AM

imitation is not always the highest form of flattery

Pimpin_J · 07-07-2006, 11:37 AM

lol how gay is that

Quickdraw · 07-07-2006, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

imitation is not always the highest form of flattery

Especially when all he does is steal the text, changes sponsor link codes, and never gives credit to the sites he is stealing from.

mrkris · 07-07-2006, 11:38 AM

If he is altering the codes, email the sponsor, they'll terminate his account.

baddog · 07-07-2006, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Quickdraw

Especially when all he does is steal the text, changes sponsor link codes, and never gives credit to the sites he is stealing from.

I had a GFY'er that I took under my wing, showing him the ropes with blogging, and the fucker repaid me by copying my shit, including my images.

media · 07-07-2006, 11:44 AM

Is he just syndicating your posts? He should give a link back at minimum on that... Sucks if you're paying his bandwidth bill too..

Dirty Dane · 07-07-2006, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BCyber

Unless your linking back.

FUCK AUTOBLOGGER PRO!

Ripping others is really shitty.

Does this software stealing from websites?

gooddomains · 07-07-2006, 11:49 AM

autoblogger pro is a pretty neat software

Quickdraw · 07-07-2006, 11:50 AM

That seems to happen often around here Baddog. Between the thieves, scammers, and the latest wave of surfers... bleh..

mrkris · 07-07-2006, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

Ripping others is really shitty.

Does this software stealing from websites?

If you provide RSS, it's not stealing

Quickdraw · 07-07-2006, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mrkris

If you provide RSS, it's not stealing

What?
Changing links to sponsors, taking the images, and never giving credit to the source isn't stealing?

Young · 07-07-2006, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mrkris

If you provide RSS, it's not stealing

And I guess if the front door to your home is open I can just walk in and take whatever the fuck i want right????

so fucking stupid.

OG LennyT · 07-07-2006, 12:02 PM

from what I hear, it makes ripping off easier : (

CaptainHowdy · 07-07-2006, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dvd316

from what I hear, it makes ripping off easier : (

Scary stuff

!!

Agent 488 · 07-07-2006, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mrkris

If you provide RSS, it's not stealing

i think you need to brush up on your internet law chum - since the thief is using the feed for non-commerical purposes (putting his ref. code in the posts) - it is not covered by fair use and is intellectual property theft.

email his isp and get him shut down. you also can report him to the search engines and get him removed.

mrkris · 07-07-2006, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by budsbabes

i think you need to brush up on your internet law chum - since the thief is using the feed for non-commerical purposes (putting his ref. code in the posts) - it is not covered by fair use and is intellectual property theft.

email his isp and get him shut down. you also can report him to the search engines and get him removed.

Using an RSS feed is not illegal, modifying, yes it is. I was referring to JUST using an RSS feed as is.

Agent 488 · 07-07-2006, 12:12 PM

for the idiots that think scraping rss feeds for your splogs isn't stealing - here's an interview with intellectual property lawyer Bruce Sunstein:

http://www.technewsworld.com/story/44364.html

TNW: So are there legal reuses of RSS feed material?

Sunstein: No. Well, the longer answer is, yeah, maybe. It gets to be possible, but a lot of people put content on the Internet and expect it to be protected by copyright. You don't need notice of copyright. You haven't since Jan. 1, 1978. If you publish without a notice, it doesn't mean stuff isn't protected. If I put my stuff on the Internet without notice, I can still sue if someone redistributes my RSS feed.

mrkris · 07-07-2006, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Young

And I guess if the front door to your home is open I can just walk in and take whatever the fuck i want right????

so fucking stupid.

I'd like to see you try to push in court that someone is using your RSS feed. Even if they modify the content of the feed, you'll still have a hard time. Thanks.

mrkris · 07-07-2006, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Quickdraw

What?
Changing links to sponsors, taking the images, and never giving credit to the source isn't stealing?

Utilizing an RSS feed as is, is legal. Modifying it is illegal.

Agent 488 · 07-07-2006, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mrkris

Using an RSS feed is not illegal, modifying, yes it is. I was referring to JUST using an RSS feed as is.

what determines fair use?

1. the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;
2. the nature of the copyrighted work;
3. the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and
4. the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use

having google ads or some such on a blog, whether it's altered or not, will not make your feed scraping fair use, if you're redistributing feeds without permission.

JD · 07-07-2006, 12:25 PM

honestly, I don't see what the big fucking deal is. stripping links and replacing refcodes is fucked.

But being syndicated, benefits you if you know what you're doing.

If anyone wants to take my feed, please, go ahead just don't mod it and I won't have to send your host a DMCA

Quickdraw · 07-07-2006, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

honestly, I don't see what the big fucking deal is. stripping links and replacing refcodes is fucked.

But being syndicated, benefits you if you know what you're doing.

If anyone wants to take my feed, please, go ahead just don't mod it and I won't have to send your host a DMCA

Yep, that's the problem. The guy the thread starter is talking about is stripping it all down to text, changing codes etc, and not giving any form of credit.

mrkris · 07-07-2006, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Quickdraw

Yep, that's the problem. The guy the thread starter is talking about is stripping it all down to text, changing codes etc, and not giving any form of credit.

I spoke to him via icq, he's taking my advice.

tenderobject · 07-07-2006, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mrkris

If you provide RSS, it's not stealing

but if they linkback and change sponsor ref codes probably stealing right?

Dirty Dane · 07-07-2006, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mrkris

Utilizing an RSS feed as is, is legal. Modifying it is illegal.

Even if you don't modify it, you have no right to copy it to your own site if the creator did not give the permission no matter what. Even if you give credit... The term 'legal' is not really relevant because its about copyright, and it would be handled as a case between two private persons/companies.

mrkris · 07-07-2006, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by tenderobject

but if they linkback and change sponsor ref codes probably stealing right?

If they modify, then of course. If people were smart they'd use their own feeds, that's what I do.

mrkris · 07-07-2006, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

Even if you don't modify it, you have no right to copy it to your own site if the creator did not give the permission no matter what. Even if you give credit... The term 'legal' is not really relevant because its about copyright, and it would be handled as a case between two private persons/companies.

I'd like to see you say that in court. You can claim copyright infringement, but you'd have one hell of a time winning because of the nature of RSS.

czarina · 07-07-2006, 01:21 PM

ouch, that sucks!

munki · 07-07-2006, 01:31 PM

Don't mean to fuck with anyone or piss anybody off. Obviously my current RSS usage is doing exactly that... so I'm going to pull down the feeds and switch back to a prior site concept.

I very humbly apologize.

Dirty Dane · 07-07-2006, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by mrkris

I'd like to see you say that in court. You can claim copyright infringement, but you'd have one hell of a time winning because of the nature of RSS.

.. its about the final output, and the commercial value, that matters. If your work is not registered (like trademarks), has no real commercial value, no actual damage from the violation or the defendant has not gained from it.. then it would probably not be good enough for the court.

Court or not, its about respecting others work. RSS or whatever. Ask yourself "why you are doing it", not "do I get away with it".

baddog · 07-07-2006, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Quickdraw

What?
Changing links to sponsors, taking the images, and never giving credit to the source isn't stealing?

They have failed to learn about trackbacks, the honorable way of doing it.

Using an RSS feed, brilliant. Changing their codes to your own, thievery.

Quickdraw · 07-07-2006, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MikyMunki

Don't mean to fuck with anyone or piss anybody off. Obviously my current RSS usage is doing exactly that... so I'm going to pull down the feeds and switch back to a prior site concept.

I very humbly apologize.

Sounds like you got caught up in all the hype and forgot to take the blinders off. Glad you have seen the light

I can't speak for anyone else, but I imagine if you left links and what not alone you would be fine. In a way, those links could be considered 'payment' for the use of the content.
Anyway, good luck, it seems your apology is genuine.

Not that my 2cents matters

BSleazy · 07-07-2006, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MikyMunki

Don't mean to fuck with anyone or piss anybody off. Obviously my current RSS usage is doing exactly that... so I'm going to pull down the feeds and switch back to a prior site concept.

I very humbly apologize.

Thank you.

JD · 07-07-2006, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Quickdraw

...I imagine if you left links and what not alone you would be fine. In a way, those links could be considered 'payment' for the use of the content.
Anyway, good luck, it seems your apology is genuine.

Not that my 2cents matters

exactly

Taboo · 07-07-2006, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by budsbabes

for the idiots that think scraping rss feeds for your splogs isn't stealing - here's an interview with intellectual property lawyer Bruce Sunstein:

http://www.technewsworld.com/story/44364.html

TNW: So are there legal reuses of RSS feed material?

Sunstein: No. Well, the longer answer is, yeah, maybe. It gets to be possible, but a lot of people put content on the Internet and expect it to be protected by copyright. You don't need notice of copyright. You haven't since Jan. 1, 1978. If you publish without a notice, it doesn't mean stuff isn't protected. If I put my stuff on the Internet without notice, I can still sue if someone redistributes my RSS feed.

thanks. great link.

Khun · 07-07-2006, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

Even if you don't modify it, you have no right to copy it to your own site if the creator did not give the permission no matter what. Even if you give credit... The term 'legal' is not really relevant because its about copyright, and it would be handled as a case between two private persons/companies.

First, let me say that I agree that syndicating, not providing a link back, and changing sponsor codes is totally fucked and I do not agree with it. Now, with that said, on to my post.

Dirty Dane, syndicating via RSS is neither legal or illegal at this point because its never been tried in court. All talk on this subject is purely academic at this point. The honest truth, who ever has the most money for lawyer fees will win this battle. Better start saving...

Pleasurepays · 07-07-2006, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mrkris

If you provide RSS, it's not stealing

isn't the intended use of an RSS feed that it be used with RSS feed readers and not intended to be redestributed and posted on other peoples websites?

Love Sex · 07-07-2006, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

isn't the intended use of an RSS feed that it be used with RSS feed readers and not intended to be redestributed and posted on other peoples websites?

yes until a few people came along who dont want to create original content on there there own and and call it auto blogging.

Auto blogger guys you should have the link changing feature disabled.

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Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	for the idiots that think scraping rss feeds for your splogs isn't stealing - here's an interview with intellectual property lawyer Bruce Sunstein: http://www.technewsworld.com/story/44364.html TNW: So are there legal reuses of RSS feed material? Sunstein: No. Well, the longer answer is, yeah, maybe. It gets to be possible, but a lot of people put content on the Internet and expect it to be protected by copyright. You don't need notice of copyright. You haven't since Jan. 1, 1978. If you publish without a notice, it doesn't mean stuff isn't protected. If I put my stuff on the Internet without notice, I can still sue if someone redistributes my RSS feed.

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JD Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 22,651	honestly, I don't see what the big fucking deal is. stripping links and replacing refcodes is fucked. But being syndicated, benefits you if you know what you're doing. If anyone wants to take my feed, please, go ahead just don't mod it and I won't have to send your host a DMCA

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munki Do Fun Shit. Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OC Posts: 13,393	Don't mean to fuck with anyone or piss anybody off. Obviously my current RSS usage is doing exactly that... so I'm going to pull down the feeds and switch back to a prior site concept. I very humbly apologize. __________________ “I have the simplest tastes. I am always satisfied with the best.” -Oscar Wilde