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				3rd arrest in florida adult websites crack down
			 
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	Chrissy Cresswell @PensacolaNewsJournal.com A third suspect was arrested Monday in a multimillion-dollar Internet pornography operation that authorities say was based in Pensacola. Andrew Kevin Craft, 38, identified by investigators as the general manager of the Web site on which locally produced films were shown, was taken into custody at his home in the 6500 block of Memphis Avenue in Pensacola. Like the two suspects arrested Friday, Craft was booked on a charge of racketeering -- conducting a criminal enterprise by engaging in prostitution and the manufacture and sale of obscene material. Escambia County Sheriff Ron McNesby and State Attorney Bill Eddins on Saturday announced a months-long investigation into Global Technology Productions, which did business as Ray Guhn Productions. The business revolved around a Web site with some 5,000 subscribers who could view films featuring group sex for $30 a month, according to an affidavit. The films were made at several homes in Pensacola and Pace, at five hotels in Escambia County, along Interstate 10 and Interstate 110, in wooded areas and in other public places, said Assistant State Attorney Russ Edgar, who led the investigation. Edgar estimated that about 100 local men and women participated in the films. He would not identify any of those people or say how the film- makers located them. The two men arrested Friday were: ? Web site owner Clinton Raymond McCowen, 45, also known as Ray Guhn, who resides in the 1900 block of Rue La Fontaine in Navarre. ? Producer and Web site technician Kevin Patrick Stevens, 36, of the 9700 block of Fowler Avenue in Pensacola. The affidavit says a confidential informant told investigators that Craft solicited her to make movies for Ray Guhn Productions. In addition, the affidavit says the informant also said she was paid to have sex with Craft, McCowen and another associate during "private parties'' at which they would determine whether women would be good performers. The informant reported making as much as $1,000 for a movie. Another confidential source told investigators that Craft, known to her as Jim, was responsible for recruiting models, finding locations for shoots, making the movies and paying the models, the affidavit says. Craft was in the Escambia County Jail on Monday evening under $75,000 bond. McCowen and Stevens bonded out Saturday. Edgar said more arrests are expected in "the next several days or several weeks.' http://www.pensacolanewsjournal.com/...606270331/1006  | 
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		 arn't you that  republican Conservative, you should be supporting this 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 heaven forbid they did something to combat gangviolence, domestic violence and reformed some social services b4 mounting huge efforts on something as menial as porn. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Sounds like homeboy was mixing bidness with pleasure.   
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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 No shit huh =) This doesn't sound right to me though. There has to be more to it.  | 
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		 Ok, so I get part of the allure of Florida...I spent about a year down south of Miami many years ago, etc... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			However, what the fuck... Did someone not tell everyone down there even remotely involved in this biz that it's the DEEP SOUTH!? They need to pack up and get their asses back to Cali or AZ at a minimum. 
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		 Sounds like a real bust... any updates on the TitanCash peeps?? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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    sorry wrong guyI am the direct oppisite and no there is not more to this its the republicans trying to set precedent while they still have power  | 
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		 it amazes me how every time theese bible thumpin fools arrest someone in the biz I see all theese post from people in the biz who always find some sort of way to lay blame on the victims ( the webmasters) 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	so what they fucked a model or two so what they shot in some woods in the middle of but fuck egypt so fuckin what.............. bottom line is this consenting adults are in jail and facing felony charges because their actions didnt pass some idiots MORAL beliefs stop blaming the webmasters the system is fucked people really need to stick together on all forms of legal porn right now that includes scat, bondage, etc dont give these bible thumpers an inch stick together  | 
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		 whats crazy to me is that if adult webmasters stuck together and wielded their collective power ( the internet alone) they could influnce the opinions of the people in a major way 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	think about it the people on this board know how to control millions and millions of internet users why not take some of this traffic we control and use it to protect our right shit even a popup explaining the freedom of speech the internet porn biz needs some sort of governing or umberlla orginazation to set standards and weild our collective power when needed  | 
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 however they really dont care that he did or did not its all bullshit and a means to an end goal eradicate online porn period so my position is dont give them anything  | 
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 but lets stop and take this as a serious business shall we ? If you want the same rights as mainstream do everything by the book and don't give them any reason to hit you. If this guys were clean you'd sure see more people jumping at this but at this point they fucked up.  | 
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 If he didn't do that I'm sure he can prove it in court. But I don't think this guys would be that stupid to arrest someone without evidence.  | 
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			the dudes got nailed for prostitution/escorts first - then the cops found out about the porn site later which made the story newsworthy. 
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		 why anyone who operates a porn operation in the USA still is beyond me... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Looks like they got busted for the escorting biz.  I know some counties in FL dont go for producing porn.  I guess their neighborhood secret got to big.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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 Who knows.. prob the state prosecutor still don't know, - till they get all the data collated, the "map" sorted and credibility and strength/weakness of evidence, it's very hard to say what the "main" offense and any substantive offenses may be. Dunno what it's like in the US on this, but the tendency in some other areas is to "pile on" charges to impress a jury how "wicked" the defendants are - then wheel in 50 cartons of what may appear to be evidence to show how big that is. 
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		 So, they were allegedly running an escort service in addition to the adult sites, servicing paying Johns --or they were allegedly simply getting their rocks off on the casting couch with the hired help? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			It sounds like the latter, but please correct me if I am wrong.. 
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 At least that is what I get out of the article. We will see once more comes out about it. ![]() 
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			from what I have been able to determine the chrages that were levied were all prostitution/obscenity related. There were no drug or weapons charges, that was sensationilism by the local fish wrapper. The titancash sites are down, don't know if its permanent but I suspect it is...at least for a while. the guys from these sites post here regularly lets wait for them to say what really happened before we convict them...they may actually even need our help. 
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		 are their sites down or just traffic jammed? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 something fishy about this story, doesn't sound right to me, there must be more than what they have explained in that article!! 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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 very wise words. remember we are only hearing from the news agencies which do at times embellish the truth to sell more papers. if its personal and these guys are getting charged based on the parties, then it really doesn't affect us at all - but if they are getting charged for using escorts as models etc. then the industry needs to take note and another big battle is on the way. 
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		 Burning a U.S. flag in Escambia County, Florida. Legal. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
	Shooting bukkake movies in Escambia County, Florida. Not legal. Ok. Got it.  | 
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 the mention of parties and escorts etc etc are all A MEANS TO AN END the target is porn............period no matter how they attempt to prosecute this case it will in fact have an impact on the industry, when you come up with all the reasons in the world why it was their fault and why you dont have to worry because you are not doing one varible in the whole equation..................you give them room to reach back and get a better swing in when its your turn to get knocked out the target is porn if they win this case...regardless of parties or whatever other excuse to look the other way it will give plenty of local sheriff's and other publicly officials the balls they need to use porn as a scapegoat for votes at every local election dont give them an inch dont give them a fuckin inch, regardeless of what ray guhn did stand behind it I say we did up all the dirt or negative information we can on the local prosecutor , sheriff or mayor and push it out there,,,, promote it like a brand new niche......I will even host it on my servers I really dont care this has got to stop fight back dammit everyone wants to drop their head and back away slowly while wild animals attack your camp  | 
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