Do you host with a reseller, of a reseller, of a reseller? - GoFuckYourself.com

Cow Spreader · 06-26-2006, 03:04 PM

If you host with Tear2Hosting you are hosting with a reseller, of a reseller, of a reseller !
They do not have their own ARIN IP's, which means? They do not do their own BGP, their IP's are "RENTED" to them from "B&W Operations", which in turn "RENTS" them from PullthePlug Networks, a host in VA/DC.

In all reality it is PullthePlug that does the BGP, then resells it to B&W, then B&W resells it to Tear2.
What does this mean?

#1 - Tear2 does not have their own network
#2 - Tear2 is SINGLE HOMED, they only have ONE uplink to the internet, via their reseller.

# ping tear2hosting.com
PING tear2hosting.com (209.9.228.200) 56(84) bytes of data.

# whois 209.9.228.200
[Querying whois.arin.net]
[whois.arin.net]
Beyond The Network America, Inc. BTN-CIDR4 (NET-209-8-0-0-1)
209.8.0.0 - 209.9.255.255
PullThePlug Technologies LLC PULLTHEPLUG-BTNA (NET-209-9-224-0-1)
209.9.224.0 - 209.9.239.255
B&W Operations NET-209-9-227-192-1 (NET-209-9-228-192-1)
209.9.228.192 - 209.9.228.223

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C'mon guys... get real, you can't get anywhere reselling, a reseller, of another reseller - what is this? Kiddie games?

Who knows if they are even using their own servers, maybe they are just reselling B&W Operations servers...

I for one think this requires a bit of clearing up.

Cow Spreader · 06-26-2006, 03:08 PM

Nice templatemonster template btw guys ... shows you are serious and professional, you can spend $50 on a template.

Cow Spreader · 06-26-2006, 03:09 PM

Nice templatemonster template btw guys ... shows you are serious and professional, you can spend $50 on a template.

czarina · 06-26-2006, 03:11 PM

what are you trying to sell, hosting or templates? make up your mind

jimb · 06-26-2006, 03:26 PM

Alright, first off nice fake nickname!

Second, B&W Operations was our old name before it changed to Tear2 (My name is Jim B. Daves name is Dave W. Hence B & W Operations.)

Third, we have covered this multiple times that we have a rack hosted in the PTP cages in Equinix Ashburn. We pull bandwidth from PTP currently until our new facility in the Switch & Data Datacenter in Reston VA is ready for us. The PTP Network has been spectacular for us and is anything but single homed. PTP does not offer dedicated servers nor small colocation and focuses only on large colocation and network management customers.

In the next month, we will be moving the Tear2Hosting operations over to the Reston Switch & Data Datacenter. At that time we will deloy our own Cisco Networking Equipment (3750's dual failover) with dual failover Linksys Switches mounted on each rack. We are currently under contract with Switch & Data for 3 Racks. The room we are moving into in Reston has approximately 3000 sqft at the moment (enough room for us to grow

).

We own all of our server hardware and build our own systems from scratch employing only the best hardware (Tyan Motherboards, NameBrand Hard Drives, Corsair Memory, and Supermicro Chasis).

Thank you for allow me to give our Press Release about our next phase of expansion early

Have a nice day

Jim

minusonebit · 06-26-2006, 03:30 PM

My host owns thier noc. I know, because I was there when they bought it. Its the old Cable & Wireless facility in Kansas City. It makes my penis hard when I think of all the bandwidth going to that place.... mmmm, servers.

jimb · 06-26-2006, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cow Spreader

Nice templatemonster template btw guys ... shows you are serious and professional, you can spend $50 on a template.

We have a new site in the works, we just feel that we would rather save the $1000+ on a custom site and invest that money into building our own network or spending some extra money on each clients servers. We value that more than a nice flashly designed site.

But thanks anyway

Jim

NoWhErE · 06-26-2006, 03:38 PM

Funny how someone would create a fake nick for this kind of useless bashing.

Good reply from Tear 2!

xclusive · 06-26-2006, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimb

We have a new site in the works, we just feel that we would rather save the $1000+ on a custom site and invest that money into building our own network or spending some extra money on each clients servers. We value that more than a nice flashly designed site.

But thanks anyway

Jim

Great post and shows that you know what really matters. Who gives a shit what a hosts site looks like? It's how they perform that matters.

dissipate · 06-26-2006, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cow Spreader

If you host with Tear2Hosting you are hosting with a reseller, of a reseller, of a reseller !
They do not have their own ARIN IP's, which means? They do not do their own BGP, their IP's are "RENTED" to them from "B&W Operations", which in turn "RENTS" them from PullthePlug Networks, a host in VA/DC.

In all reality it is PullthePlug that does the BGP, then resells it to B&W, then B&W resells it to Tear2.
What does this mean?

#1 - Tear2 does not have their own network
#2 - Tear2 is SINGLE HOMED, they only have ONE uplink to the internet, via their reseller.

# ping tear2hosting.com
PING tear2hosting.com (209.9.228.200) 56(84) bytes of data.

# whois 209.9.228.200
[Querying whois.arin.net]
[whois.arin.net]
Beyond The Network America, Inc. BTN-CIDR4 (NET-209-8-0-0-1)
209.8.0.0 - 209.9.255.255
PullThePlug Technologies LLC PULLTHEPLUG-BTNA (NET-209-9-224-0-1)
209.9.224.0 - 209.9.239.255
B&W Operations NET-209-9-227-192-1 (NET-209-9-228-192-1)
209.9.228.192 - 209.9.228.223

----

C'mon guys... get real, you can't get anywhere reselling, a reseller, of another reseller - what is this? Kiddie games?

Who knows if they are even using their own servers, maybe they are just reselling B&W Operations servers...

I for one think this requires a bit of clearing up.

Hi MSV, how are you? You're getting pissy about that orangefiber thread i see. How about you stop with the little pussy douchebag shit and try posting this on your real nick? I believe Jim cleared everything you were spewing shit about with his post. Have a wonderfull day!

mrkris · 06-26-2006, 04:30 PM

Another thread by another fake nick throwing attention at Tear2Hosting. Good job, they love the extra sales :D

06-26-2006, 03:38 PM	#8
NoWhErE Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 10,384	Funny how someone would create a fake nick for this kind of useless bashing. Good reply from Tear 2! __________________ skype: lordofthecameltoe

06-26-2006, 04:30 PM	#11
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06-26-2006, 03:04 PM	#1
Cow Spreader Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 6	Do you host with a reseller, of a reseller, of a reseller? If you host with Tear2Hosting you are hosting with a reseller, of a reseller, of a reseller ! They do not have their own ARIN IP's, which means? They do not do their own BGP, their IP's are "RENTED" to them from "B&W Operations", which in turn "RENTS" them from PullthePlug Networks, a host in VA/DC. In all reality it is PullthePlug that does the BGP, then resells it to B&W, then B&W resells it to Tear2. What does this mean? #1 - Tear2 does not have their own network #2 - Tear2 is SINGLE HOMED, they only have ONE uplink to the internet, via their reseller. # ping tear2hosting.com PING tear2hosting.com (209.9.228.200) 56(84) bytes of data. # whois 209.9.228.200 [Querying whois.arin.net] [whois.arin.net] Beyond The Network America, Inc. BTN-CIDR4 (NET-209-8-0-0-1) 209.8.0.0 - 209.9.255.255 PullThePlug Technologies LLC PULLTHEPLUG-BTNA (NET-209-9-224-0-1) 209.9.224.0 - 209.9.239.255 B&W Operations NET-209-9-227-192-1 (NET-209-9-228-192-1) 209.9.228.192 - 209.9.228.223 ---- C'mon guys... get real, you can't get anywhere reselling, a reseller, of another reseller - what is this? Kiddie games? Who knows if they are even using their own servers, maybe they are just reselling B&W Operations servers... I for one think this requires a bit of clearing up. Last edited by Cow Spreader; 06-26-2006 at 03:06 PM..

06-26-2006, 03:08 PM	#2
Cow Spreader Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 6	Nice templatemonster template btw guys ... shows you are serious and professional, you can spend $50 on a template.

06-26-2006, 03:09 PM	#3
Cow Spreader Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 6	Nice templatemonster template btw guys ... shows you are serious and professional, you can spend $50 on a template.

06-26-2006, 03:11 PM	#4
czarina Webmaster Extraordinaire Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: A beautiful beach... Posts: 10,748	what are you trying to sell, hosting or templates? make up your mind

06-26-2006, 03:26 PM	#5
jimb Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Costa Rica Posts: 2,514	Alright, first off nice fake nickname! Second, B&W Operations was our old name before it changed to Tear2 (My name is Jim B. Daves name is Dave W. Hence B & W Operations.) Third, we have covered this multiple times that we have a rack hosted in the PTP cages in Equinix Ashburn. We pull bandwidth from PTP currently until our new facility in the Switch & Data Datacenter in Reston VA is ready for us. The PTP Network has been spectacular for us and is anything but single homed. PTP does not offer dedicated servers nor small colocation and focuses only on large colocation and network management customers. In the next month, we will be moving the Tear2Hosting operations over to the Reston Switch & Data Datacenter. At that time we will deloy our own Cisco Networking Equipment (3750's dual failover) with dual failover Linksys Switches mounted on each rack. We are currently under contract with Switch & Data for 3 Racks. The room we are moving into in Reston has approximately 3000 sqft at the moment (enough room for us to grow ). We own all of our server hardware and build our own systems from scratch employing only the best hardware (Tyan Motherboards, NameBrand Hard Drives, Corsair Memory, and Supermicro Chasis). Thank you for allow me to give our Press Release about our next phase of expansion early Have a nice day Jim

06-26-2006, 03:30 PM	#6
minusonebit So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: [email protected] Posts: 7,391	My host owns thier noc. I know, because I was there when they bought it. Its the old Cable & Wireless facility in Kansas City. It makes my penis hard when I think of all the bandwidth going to that place.... mmmm, servers.