Ok Ryan.. the gaunlet has been thrown down.. Got your 10m? - Page 4 - GoFuckYourself.com

Anthony · 06-22-2006, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Young

I have model good looks

I've seen Young's pics.

Unlike you, there is no question whether he is a man or not.

stickyfingerz · 06-22-2006, 11:49 AM

Alright enough playing with the big bad business men in here that dont know what a federal tax id is.

And people who can make fun of my picture, but dont have the nuts enough to post one of their own. You are all very brave.

Ive got work to do already wasted enough time on this thread for a while.

NoComments · 06-22-2006, 11:50 AM

Is it Photoshop time?

the winner gets Adult Internet License!!!!!

Young · 06-22-2006, 11:51 AM

thank you Anthony

Pleasurepays · 06-22-2006, 11:52 AM

for Ryan... a page out of the old school manual.

Pissing 101:

Rule number 1: FOR THE LOVE OF CHRIST... KNOW WHEN TO STOP!

i know it won't help you... i just feel better about myself knowing i tried.

carry on

Forest · 06-22-2006, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by EdgeXXX

Yes, but while this is somewhat true, if you have any employees you would be required to file for an EIN.

IF you have employees in the us

Trixxxia · 06-22-2006, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly

There are tons of good sized companies in this business with no employees, just sub-contracters.

I actually read this whole thread and still have no idea why anybody is talking about getting a new tax ID for a freaking contest. Sounds like some red tape some pencil pusher would setup to avoid and prolong any actual action.

Sly - I'm so glad I'm not the only one thinking the same thing.

I even followed that link to figure out what was so pressing about this ID. They even ask you to justify why you are asking for an EIN - this leads me to believe that it's NOT obligatory (and can use your SS#) and that another company can't FORCE you to get one if you have your SS# & no employees. Then again I'm Canadian so maybe I missed the IRS Business 101 course.

Pleasurepays · 06-22-2006, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet

Alright enough playing with the big bad business men in here that dont know what a federal tax id is.

And people who can make fun of my picture, but dont have the nuts enough to post one of their own. You are all very brave.

Ive got work to do already wasted enough time on this thread for a while.

translation:

jesus christ, i'm getting the beatdown of my life and even with my shotgun approach to posting, not one intelligent thing came out. (internal monologue begins; "hm... what was that they say...? how many monkeys in how many years can type War and Peace". maybe JoesHo needs more monkeys)

Forest · 06-22-2006, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly

I actually read this whole thread and still have no idea why anybody is talking about getting a new tax ID for a freaking contest. Sounds like some red tape some pencil pusher would setup to avoid and prolong any actual action.

BINGO!

Anthony · 06-22-2006, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Young

thank you Anthony

Don't be so quck too!

I deleted from that post...

"If I was a gay man, I'd hit it. Or if I was in jail"

Forest · 06-22-2006, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Young

That needs a photo shop and some text redone to read
RYAN

NoComments · 06-22-2006, 11:59 AM

Forest, this thread now costs me money...I am running contest with prizes
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=624786
;)

MaDalton · 06-22-2006, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart

Note to self:

1) dont piss with people who can piss better than you, it causes embarassment....

2) dont make bets that you cant cover... it causes embarassment..

3) dont challenge anthony to a fight... he will accept, which again will cause embarrassment...

4) if ever invited to serge's house for dinner, dont bring a bottle of boone's farm... you wont be invited back and me be asked to leave when you arrive..

5) get adult internet license....

you may now continue....

pretty good summary

Forest · 06-22-2006, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Winetalk

Forest, this thread now costs me money...I am running contest with prizes
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=624786
;)

Ill even kick in for that contest

Sly · 06-22-2006, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet

The whole point is we do the contest completly legally. The proper steps to starting a online business is to obtain the proper tax forms. Business 101.

So, uh, why exactly do you think its appropriate that somebody setup a new business just for a contest? Are you telling me that every company who runs contests on GFY should setup a new company to administer the contest?

There is absolutely no reason each party can't use their current business for the contest. Furthermore, it isn't your business what the other person does or doesn't do with their business, mind your own. Do you march into the farmers market every Saturday morning demanding to see business licenses?

Do you have any idea how stupid you're making yourself look? Maybe you don't care, I hope thats the case. You are telling people who have made millions and millions of dollars how to setup a business. Do you realize that?

Forest · 06-22-2006, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

So, uh, why exactly do you think its appropriate that somebody setup a new business just for a contest? Are you telling me that every company who runs contests on GFY should setup a new company to administer the contest?

There is absolutely no reason each party can't use their current business for the contest. Furthermore, it isn't your business what the other person does or doesn't do with their business, mind your own. Do you march into the farmers market every Saturday morning demanding to see business licenses?

Do you have any idea how stupid you're making yourself look? Maybe you don't care, I hope thats the case. You are telling people who have made millions and millions of dollars how to setup a business. Do you realize that?

THANK YOUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MaDalton · 06-22-2006, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Do you have any idea how stupid you're making yourself look? Maybe you don't care, I hope thats the case. You are telling people who have made millions and millions of dollars how to setup a business. Do you realize that?

you're wasting your precious time - several people tried to tell him that since a week now or so

baddog · 06-22-2006, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet

Yes you can do that. Of course a large amount of companies will not do business with you if you only use a social security number. Come on Baddog. Im sure you have a federal id#.

nope, only the companies that are incorporated do

marketsmart · 06-22-2006, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

You are telling people who have made millions and millions of dollars how to setup a business. Do you realize that?

apparently not... maybe it isnt included in the biz 101 curriculum at devry...

EdgeXXX · 06-22-2006, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

There are tons of good sized companies in this business with no employees, just sub-contracters.

I wouldn't doubt it at all. I guess I'm just from the "old school" of business. One thing I will say about it is that although many of the practices in this industry would be view as rediculous by mainstream big business, some are indeed quite clever.

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Originally Posted by Sly

I actually read this whole thread and still have no idea why anybody is talking about getting a new tax ID for a freaking contest. Sounds like some red tape some pencil pusher would setup to avoid and prolong any actual action.

From what I can gather (and I could be completely wrong), I think it is somewhat based on a series of miscommunications. It appears that Ryan (stickyfingerzdotnet) wanted to challenge Serge (Winetalk) to some kind of contest to see who could start a brand new Online Adult Company (with a start-up capital limit of $2,000) going "by the book" (in regards to the formation of said companies; hence licenses and permits) and see who could grow their company bigger faster. Serge (or Forest?) then decided to up the ante by saying that the challenge would only be accepted if there was a $10M wager ($5M placed in an escrow account by each of the 2 parties in the contest) on top of it.

Fast Forward to now: Serge thinks that Ryan only has $2k and wants to bet the $2k (instead of $10M) on the outcome of this contest; when in reality, Ryan is only stating that the start-up capital for each company be limited to a max. of $2k (with no money being bet).

That's what I have gathered from this thread thus far; however, as I stated before, I could be incorrect).

Phoenix · 06-22-2006, 12:12 PM

the best part about this thread is anyone with a brain knows there are about zero people with 10 million just lying around to throw into an account..lol

not saying some people in the business havent made it...but unless they are crazy im sure the money is tied up elsewhere

10 million? sure let me cut you a check...or wait do you have debit...llol

love the drama..way better then the fake drama

baddog · 06-22-2006, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet

Or want to business with many other companies that require federal tax id#s.

Have been doing this since '96, and never once had a company refuse to do biz with me because I gave a SS# instead of a TID#

Rolo · 06-22-2006, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

the best part about this thread is anyone with a brain knows there are about zero people with 10 million just lying around to throw into an account..lol

Have you met Joesho http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=621539

Forest · 06-22-2006, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

the best part about this thread is anyone with a brain knows there are about zero people with 10 million just lying around to throw into an account..lol

not saying some people in the business havent made it...but unless they are crazy im sure the money is tied up elsewhere

10 million? sure let me cut you a check...or wait do you have debit...llol

love the drama..way better then the fake drama

OBVIOUSLY you dont know serge

Sin · 06-22-2006, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Have been doing this since '96, and never once had a company refuse to do biz with me because I gave a SS# instead of a TID#

Oh but c'mon Baddog, get with the times LOL
Its a new era now, where you can only conduct business online with a Federal Tax ID and if you DON'T the Better Business Beaureau might come & disconnect your cable? LOL

Forest · 06-22-2006, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Have been doing this since '96, and never once had a company refuse to do biz with me because I gave a SS# instead of a TID#

Once again

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Trixxxia · 06-22-2006, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Have been doing this since '96, and never once had a company refuse to do biz with me because I gave a SS# instead of a TID#

Which is what I thought from the beginning - the company paying you is doing their due deligence by asking the number (SS# or TaxID/EIN) once you give that info and they send their paperwork - they've done their job.

Refusing to give either/or, (and having a US address) then I'd say the company is right in refusing to do business with you.

Pron Don · 06-22-2006, 12:21 PM

im so risen.

EdgeXXX · 06-22-2006, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Forest

IF you have employees in the us

True, as long as they are not US citizens, it is a different story

Phoenix · 06-22-2006, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Forest

OBVIOUSLY you dont know serge

i know lots of people making tons of money...and they all do more then just put it in a bank account

im sure serge has the money...but it is probablyin real estate other companies etc

his wine cellar..lol

not saying he doesnt have it...but who has 10 million liquid to just throw into an account?

on the joesho thing..you guys realise that the 25 mill isnt his either right?
if he finds a good deal he will bring it to the money people..they make the call..and he gets to enjoy a nice cut.

it isnt that hard to do

NoComments · 06-22-2006, 12:23 PM

Is phoenix just another surfmaster?

Forest · 06-22-2006, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Winetalk

Is phoenix just another surfmaster?

No

he actually makes money on the interweb

Phoenix · 06-22-2006, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Winetalk

Is phoenix just another surfmaster?

yes...pay no attention to him

Forest · 06-22-2006, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

yes...pay no attention to him

are you the man behind the curtain?

NoComments · 06-22-2006, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Forest

No

he actually makes money on the interweb

than he is probably having "mid size dick" syndrom
;)

Phoenix · 06-22-2006, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Forest

are you the man behind the curtain?

no it is phoenix

im eating lunch....earlier i took abreak..came in and caused some nice drama

now im eating lunch..and having fun.

it is really easy to push buttons these days

Rolo · 06-22-2006, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

on the joesho thing..you guys realise that the 25 mill isnt his either right?if he finds a good deal he will bring it to the money people..they make the call..and he gets to enjoy a nice cut.

it isnt that hard to do

It was already covered how Joesho found his $25 million http://www.gfy.com/showpost.php?p=10...&postcount=308

You should also read this post http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...&postcount=969

When you have read them all, then please come back and educate us on the $25 million from Joesho - we are all ears

EdgeXXX · 06-22-2006, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TopBucksTrixxxia

...and that another company can't FORCE you to get one if you have your SS# & no employees. Then again I'm Canadian so maybe I missed the IRS Business 101 course.

Well.......... yes and no. No, no one can FORCE you to get an EIN, however many major corporations, wholesalers, OEM/ODM, etc., will refuse to do business with you if you don't have one and are using your SSN. Also, in many instances, by using your EIN on purchase orders (for resale) it is considered B2B and the B2B tax liabilty transfers to you (meaning you don't pay taxes and the other company does not charge you sales tax on most things). However, you being a Canadian citizen makes it more complicated (international), so if you really have a desire to look into it I would recommend consulting an attorney or accountant that specializes in international tax laws.

Phoenix · 06-22-2006, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Winetalk

than he is probably having "mid size dick" syndrom
;)

hey dont get me wrong..i dream of making as much money as you have

but cant blame me for having fun

i see an opportunity im in it....a week from now..il be battlign the other side and pushing buttons for you..lol

for me this is just a game

Forest · 06-22-2006, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

no it is phoenix

im eating lunch....earlier i took abreak..came in and caused some nice drama

now im eating lunch..and having fun.

it is really easy to push buttons these days

Then YOU ARE the man from OZ

he pushed buttons too

Anthony · 06-22-2006, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

i know lots of people making tons of money...and they all do more then just put it in a bank account

im sure serge has the money...but it is probablyin real estate other companies etc

his wine cellar..lol

not saying he doesnt have it...but who has 10 million liquid to just throw into an account?

on the joesho thing..you guys realise that the 25 mill isnt his either right?
if he finds a good deal he will bring it to the money people..they make the call..and he gets to enjoy a nice cut.

it isnt that hard to do

One day, I"m gonna post the $250,000.00 check Serge wrote out to me.

My penis twitches everytime I look at it.

Phoenix · 06-22-2006, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

One day, I"m gonna post the $250,000.00 check Serge wrote out to me.

My penis twitches everytime I look at it.

as would mine

Anthony · 06-22-2006, 12:40 PM

Taking a page out of Joesho Book Of Pissing...

After making inane posts showing his mental insignificance and pitbull tenacity towards fighting a loosing battle of wits...

Ryan aka Stickyfingerz leaves the thread...

baddog · 06-22-2006, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by EdgeXXX

Well.......... yes and no. No, no one can FORCE you to get an EIN, however many major corporations, wholesalers, OEM/ODM, etc., will refuse to do business with you if you don't have one and are using your SSN. Also, in many instances, by using your EIN on purchase orders (for resale) it is considered B2B and the B2B tax liabilty transfers to you (meaning you don't pay taxes and the other company does not charge you sales tax on most things). However, you being a Canadian citizen makes it more complicated (international), so if you really have a desire to look into it I would recommend consulting an attorney or accountant that specializes in international tax laws.

hmmm, I had a mainstream telecommunications biz that I ran for 7 or 8 years, did biz with many big companies, purchased equipment, etc, and the only thing that ever got in the way was that I was not bonded for $1 million.

Anthony · 06-22-2006, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart

Note to self:

1) dont piss with people who can piss better than you, it causes embarassment....

2) dont make bets that you cant cover... it causes embarassment..

3) dont challenge anthony to a fight... he will accept, which again will cause embarrassment...

4) if ever invited to serge's house for dinner, dont bring a bottle of boone's farm... you wont be invited back and me be asked to leave when you arrive..

5) get adult internet license....

you may now continue....

Spot on!

I am a pacifist and think every living creature on this planet has a right to life.

Even manatees and their leader Joesho.

Rolo · 06-22-2006, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

Taking a page out of Joesho Book Of Pissing...

After making inane posts showing his mental insignificance and pitbull tenacity towards fighting a loosing battle of wits...

Ryan aka Stickyfingerz leaves the thread...

He is probably cuddling up with Joesho under his desk...

WiredGuy · 06-22-2006, 12:51 PM

What's this thread about? $10M for what? Is this in reference to something else or am I totally missing something here.
WG

Phoenix · 06-22-2006, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

What's this thread about? $10M for what? Is this in reference to something else or am I totally missing something here.
WG

its basically a big dick contest

stickeyfingerz cant win..as he doesnt have a big dick...lol

Anthony · 06-22-2006, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

its basically a big dick contest

stickeyfingerz cant win..as he doesnt have a big dick...lol

B,

The jury is out whether he has a dick.

EdgeXXX · 06-22-2006, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

hmmm, I had a mainstream telecommunications biz that I ran for 7 or 8 years, did biz with many big companies, purchased equipment, etc, and the only thing that ever got in the way was that I was not bonded for $1 million.

This is very true, there are also many companies that don't ask for it. Most of the companies that I have run across that ask for it are Tier 1 (and some Tier 2) distributors and wholesalers, as well as quite a few of the bigger Fortune 500s when you start discussing exclusive rights and such. Many of those companies also want to see a D&B Number. I have yet to run across it in this industry though.

(and yeah, I've seen the same bonding issues when applying for certain permits as well

. I hate that crap)

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