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Old 06-16-2006, 09:42 AM   #51
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Hey Biggy.....STFU already.
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Old 06-16-2006, 09:45 AM   #52
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And furthermore, what REALLY disgusts me, is that this whole issue has become about Melissa's hurt feelings about TEXT, and not about the physical injury, which is what everybody should be focussing on.

Intentional on Melissa's part or not, Brooke got hurt. Bottom line, she is injured. Bottom line, she tried to get things to stop, and bottom line, things didn't stop.

Mayor has every right to be upset. Certainly moreso than the other side does IMO
I don't think it's about hurt feelings, it's about fucking with peoples business.

At least that is how I see it
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Old 06-16-2006, 09:48 AM   #53
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In my years in this industry I've never come across another business owner or individual for that matter that has the patience and understanding and the professional tact of Mayor. It takes a shitload of BS to make him come out and shit on someones parade.
I wasn't there, I know all of you posting in these threads weren't there. The video is all we have to go on, and two men's word. I know I trust Mayor. It's one of those situations where you have to trust your better judgement, view the material and come to your own conclusions, and if you're still wondering what happened go with the person you trust.
After 11 years in the business, I tend to trust the man that has made a lot of people successful. I'm not going to side here, but I can't sit here and read someone trying to call someone I respect a bitch. Biggy, you're responsible for your model and your "handler" regardless of whether you knew what was happening or not. Just as Mayor is responsibe if an employee of his does something wrong. If you aren't big enough to admit your responibility and lack of employing a professional person than I suggest you change your name to imply your charecter a little better rather than using a handle that implys you're a "big person".
Luckily you didn't pick a handle like "Mr Honest" or "Mr Responsible" because then i'd be laughing even harder.

To end my rant, I'd like to point out how "big" a bitch you are for continuing to run your own name into the mud. You're just trying to milk the hype in a twisted attempt to promote your program. Which in my professional opinion doesn't hold a candle to Mayorsmoney. He's been bigger than you by dropping it and by your keeping this discussion open you sir are the ass. It's clear to me that you fucked up and hired an inexperienced "Handler" and for that simple reason alone you are responsible for whatever harm comes out of it.
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Old 06-16-2006, 09:51 AM   #54
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Well lets see Mayor accused of Melissa of basically sexually assaulting Brooke and then publicly made posts damaging MM's business. You can apologize all you want. It isn't going to make you look better in court. Brooke was in discomfort and it should be been stopped. Both girls were being pressured by Bubba and his crew.

Both parties need to step back and let the lawyers deal with it and keep it off the boards.
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Biggy, I'd say the "community" in general has seen the video, seen the truth, and doesn't place any blame on Melissa or you for the actions on the radio show.

However if you keep posting threads like this, you will start to deteriorate your image in the eyes of affiliates like me.

Mayor has shows his lack of professionalism and lost a bit of respect (even though I see his side as well, erroneous as it was), are you going to go down the same path? You really need to hear a special apology so much that you are going to put your own reputation at risk by continuing to beat this horse? I hope this is the last thread, because at this point I'm just picturing a pissed off guy who KNOWS he already won the battle, but rather than being a gentleman about it is going milk it for all it's worth.

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I also want to add that while I was not there, video doesn't capture everything that is going on, just what it is pointed at. I take no sides and wish both parties the best. I hope it all works out in the end. Also hope Brooke feels better soon.
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Old 06-16-2006, 10:01 AM   #57
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I don't think the issues at hand are childish. If I had been accused of sexually assualting a colleague, I would have a hard time just getting over it.
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Old 06-16-2006, 10:09 AM   #58
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I've watched and read the threads from day one and not posted about any of this, not because I didn't have something to say, because I looked at this as a way to get insight on the parties involved.

My views,

Yes Mayor, you fucked up a couple times. first when you did not go into the room to protect your model... BUT if I understand correct your wife was in there and should have been doing that job. Second, When you posted a sticky trying to destroy someone out of revenge before you even had all the facts. You have recanted your original comments and threads and from what I have read you have tried in numerous threads to try and turn this around and be a man about it. So, to you there. On the model issue well, thats a live and learn deal. I'm willing to bet you will not allow a simular situation to happen again.

M and B.. Ok you where wronged by the original sticky and deserve an appology BUT, your saddly mistaken if you feel you have done NOTHING wrong. The first sign of Brookes discomfort should have been enough to stop or move on to something else. Simple as that. By not allowing Mayor into the room I feel that YOU took responsablity for his girls yourself, and anything that happened to them at that point would be YOUR FAULT. Bubba the love fuck... who cares. He's a radio DJ. His job is to yell and give suggestions and act like a total dumb ass... YOU are the person who is in this industry. You should have known how to handle the situation in a profesional manner. You where the one doing the fucking not the one being fucked, so you even had the control at your hands to stop at any time. Instead, you got caught up in the moment, took orders from a lacky (Bubba) and let yourself get into a situation you clearly where not ready for. Personally, as if it really matters, is that 90% or more of the blame DOES fall on your sholders.

I have shot many models. models that worked for me, models that worked for others... it's all the same. Once your the person in control you should have a responsablity to those models and know how to read a situation to see if it's getting out of hand. You should know how to talk to the people your working with to make sure that a situation like this does NOT happen in the first place. YOU seem to care a lot more about your so called IMAGE that the welfare of another human being. SAD.

That being said, fire your camera guy. He does not have what it takes to be there if he could not have done what I just said above. Also, his camera work is well... shit. I have watched your rise, read all your other battles with this and that and the other thing and I think that your over the top here. A lot of people are correct here, your getting exposure from all of this but is it the type of exposure that is helping or hurting you?

Final note.

After reading all this, I think I would work with MAYOR. Seems like a good and standup guy. I would spend a lot more time talking to him and his models about a shoot before one actually happened and make sure we where all on the same page.

I don't believe in this "my shits so great that I deserve full exclusive rights to it crap." Fuck you. I produce shit you will never come close to matching (You want a strapon video, I'll show you a real strapon video) and I have no issue with the people I shoot with using it to better themselves or their sites. Hell I have been in mutliple shoots that have included people from all sides of adult, and have always worked well with out this childesh back and forth mud fest I see here. Grow up.

Now, I have said my little piece on this. This of course is my point of view which I have put together from the information you have provided over the course of your posting on this and other matters. If you don't agree with how I'm looking at it... imagine what others are thinking who will never post a reply to this or any of the other threads.
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I think most of you are missing the point here. Mayor aka 'geniOus' tried his hardest to encourage affiliates to pull down links to MM's site.

If you want to talk about the video - then why didn't his wife help Brooke rather than encourage her?

Why is the onus on Biggy and Melissa to look after Brooke? Fuck me - if I don't want to do something or let someone do something to me then guess what? I don't fucking do it!

I spose Mayor should blame the guy who laid the carpet for not stopping Bubba from taking the piss out of his wife too right?
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Old 06-16-2006, 10:14 AM   #60
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I don't think the issues at hand are childish. If I had been accused of sexually assualting a colleague, I would have a hard time just getting over it.
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Old 06-16-2006, 10:17 AM   #61
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Old 06-16-2006, 10:21 AM   #62
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I don't think it's about hurt feelings, it's about fucking with peoples business.

At least that is how I see it
Problem with that is this.

Biggy & Melissa fucked with Mayor's business by injuring his model both physically & emotionally.

Mayor made his thread, AND TOOK IT DOWN.

Biggy & Melissa CONTINUE to fuck THEIR OWN business, by continuously reposting the screenshot of the original post, for DAYS after it was DELETED & the statement retracted. They've dragged this out for SO long now, that the blame for any loss of business on their part, lies with them.
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I've been away from GFY over the past days, can somebody please fill me in on what happend during that show?
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Old 06-16-2006, 10:49 AM   #64
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My original thread had 2500 views, the recant and subsequent posts have over 6000.

Lets not forget what happened first.

You knew there was going to be a strap on session and you kept me and brooke out of the loop and to make matters worse your actions kept me out of the shoot. We were told to WAIT OUT SIDE PERIOD.

Brooke got hurt PERIOD and your camera guy and melissa did nothing to help, you even admit that!!!!

I got angry and went off the handle but like real man I pulled it back and even offered to let YOU pen my second apology. Instead you post the video of what we believe to be an assault in order to not clear your name but to really profit. You're truly a monster sir.

You had your chance man. Offer to make peace is officially removed. Keep making more threads, it's just adding nails in yours and melissa's coffin.
Wait wait wait... you said he could write your apology? What an asshole thing to do.
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Wait wait wait... you said he could write your apology? What an asshole thing to do.
Not exactly.... this would give Biggy the opportunity to write an apology where Mayor was bowing & scraping, and it was a pretty fucking generous offer since biggy DIDN'T ACCEPT THE FIRST ONE!

Its not as if Mayor is simply telling Biggy to write it himself, without having already apologized & more than once.
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Old 06-16-2006, 11:57 AM   #70
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Night before last, you both posted saying things are being worked out and you guys are compromising on this whole ordeal.

Biggy, creating a new thread "Mayor, FUCK YOU" is equivalent to Mayor's very first post with the overreaction and accusations. You just lost major points by posting this thread.

Biggy. Mayor. Both of you, man the fuck up. Act as if you got a pair of giant balls and get on the phone with each other and stop your bitching like children at an online forum.

Talk about complete lack of professionalism. If any of you are currently promotion either program, take a long good look at the way these guys are acting and decide for yourself if you want to deal with children.

Sorry, it had to be said.
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Old 06-16-2006, 04:46 PM   #72
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God damn it let this shit die. Your plan worked ok? Are you happy? Both of your programs have gotten a lot of publicity from this (as all this drama shit is intended to do) but if you keep pushing it people are going to get pissed off.

Ah who the fuck am I kidding This is the stuff that GFY is made of. Brb, getting some popcorn and some lube. It's going to be another fun filled night
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Old 06-16-2006, 05:49 PM   #74
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can some1 point me to the video, thx ;>
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http://www.melissamidwest.com/melissabrooke.html

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ahhh, thank you.. now I see where it all started.. who is Bubba anyway?
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Actually its about money, MM has rights to the video, mayor does not, MM does not him to have it, I bet if they gave him the right to put it on his site the problems could be resolved real quick.
personally the video was not that good to be fighting over, it would have been better if both parties would have worked on it together and done it right, but then mayor would have known what was going to happen and had some control and would have demanded rights to it also before filming and MM does not want that.

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Just sold my stock in Sirius.

Shoulda got out 3 months ago, or better yet, never got in.
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fucking post button hung up and im guilty of double posting, soon to be triple.
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wonder if bubba will be as quick getting the video up on his site
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wonder if bubba will be as quick getting the video up on his site
if so would probably be bubbaraw.com
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