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Old 06-13-2006, 07:36 PM   #101
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Irrespective of what he has in his sig or what his philosophical or morale conundrums are, I believe the sponsor should post the stats and/or explain why he was terminated.


I also do find it a bit suspect when many webmasters resort to character assassination rather than letting a rather interesting dispute unfold on it's merits. Makes one wonder if they are shills for the program.
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Old 06-13-2006, 07:37 PM   #102
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Why do you think they're not responding? They have absolutely nothing to prove besides the fact that they can shut you down whenever they feel like it. It's sad when you think about it but it's their reputation, so I don't care.


Honestly, Would you want you for a customer or affiliate? Fuck no!

In business some people are just not worth the trouble/drama.

Time for an attitude check. Your wise ass answer to me will prove my point.
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Old 06-13-2006, 07:42 PM   #103
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Irrespective of what he has in his sig or what his philosophical or morale conundrums are, I believe the sponsor should post the stats and/or explain why he was terminated.


I also do find it a bit suspect when many webmasters resort to character assassination rather than letting a rather interesting dispute unfold on it's merits. Makes one wonder if they are shills for the program.

And finally the voice of reason enters this forum. It's about time, kudos.. And Pink, my wise ass answer will prove that you are perhaps borderline retarded. I don't need to address to you the idea of focal points of a thread or a post, but it seems miles above you if since you keep posting the same crap over and over.. Let me say this again and as simple as possible.. The point is not my attitude or the stupidity of porn pushers or sponsors, the point is I wasn't paid and the sponsor is making a fool out of himself currently.. Capische, or should I draw it out for you?
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Says the guy who spent a month trying to log into the wrong website, and gave them hell about it.

Sure your "ducks are in a row"
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Due to company policy I am unable to post publically and it would also let him see what he did wrong so he could screw us over again. Granted it was only for $112 but once they get away with it once they hammer you.

Sorry... He knows what he did, so that should be enough.
get someone in here who has the authority to explain it.

i'm speculating, but i'd say you lost more than a few potential affiliates.

i have no idea who this guy is, and i'd tend to side with a sponsor over a random affiliate.. but thats a ridiculously unacceptable answer.

letting him see what he did would let him do it again.. but he knows what he did??????
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get someone in here who has the authority to explain it.

i'm speculating, but i'd say you lost more than a few potential affiliates.

i have no idea who this guy is, and i'd tend to side with a sponsor over a random affiliate.. but thats a ridiculously unacceptable answer.

letting him see what he did would let him do it again.. but he knows what he did??????

Amen to that. Pink, please stop embarassing yourself. Your stupidity is evident.
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And DG is nowhere to be seen.. The unprofessionality and incompetence is obvious.
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And DG is nowhere to be seen.. The unprofessionality and incompetence is obvious.
so that it's obvious i'm impartial here..

let me make it clear that i have absolutely no reason to believe your side of the story.

HOWEVER, its ridiculous that datinggold hasnt provided a public response to this.

and its rapidly, seriously damaging their reputation in my eyes
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Interesting thread. I have no side in this, but would like to hear more from DG. Even if it's a private response.
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Old 06-13-2006, 10:50 PM   #110
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That's fine studiocritic, very good post.. DG is rapidly losing its credibility..
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We are working with Dating Gold on a project and I have no problem coming out and assuming that this guy did something to cheat in his account. DG are stand up guys and I'm shocked that there are people even questioning their integrity
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Old 06-13-2006, 10:54 PM   #112
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Hey bluewire, it's great that you don't make up the logical bunch of GFY.. I don't have to explain to you the concept of absence of proof does not mean proof of absence. Your unsubstantiated assumptions are a laugh to the small intelligent group on this forum.. I don't expect you to comprehend logic.
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Hey bluewire, it's great that you don't make up the logical bunch of GFY.. I don't have to explain to you the concept of absence of proof does not mean proof of absence. Your unsubstantiated assumptions are a laugh to the small intelligent group on this forum.. I don't expect you to comprehend logic.

Business is like baseball...you turn over the person's baseball card and look at their past performance and that's what you're going to get. Greg and Alan don't have a track record of cheating anyone. In addition to that we've worked together and I know they run a tight business .

Can they post stats/reasoning if you approve them to?
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Anyone with an iota of common sense will realize that someone acting like a troll and practically "bullying" DG into an open confrontation is obviously not the most business saavy person around.

Although I do admit DG's response wasn't very satisfying. But rebumping this thread over and over again will not solve anything. And if you're bitching this much over what was it? 125$ then I'm sure something is wrong on your end. The damage is done. When DG gave a half assed answer, you should have said : there ya go, that proves my point and then shut up. Quit while you're ahead.

But by acting the way you are, you're asking DG to come in and own your ass as I predict will happen cause something about your attitude just SCREAMS that you're not on the level.

Now, I know you're gonna start flaming and doing your keyboard warrior thing all over this thread, cause, obviously you get your jollies from it. So go ahead.

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Old 06-13-2006, 11:02 PM   #115
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Ah the morons of GFY that still fail to understand the focal point of the matter. You can't be this stupid really.. I don't believe it. and Bluewire, they've had more than a few hours to prove their case which they haven't besides their ambiguous response that left people wondering what the hell is wrong with them. So it's not like I'm doing anything wrong except insulting the morons that come into this thread trolling without understanding the concept of a principle.
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Why does this smell of fake drama?

Who really cares about a hundred and change? Also this guy seems WAY more intent on bashing everyone who posts in this thread to get the bumps and the drama going then his little bit of cash.

OK that said - here's my DRAMA spin on it.

Publicity stunt by DG?

Discuss.
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Wow. Apparently reading comprehension isn't a forte among the members of this forum. Do you idiots grasp the concept of the principle and not the money, or do I have to repeat myself as if i'm talking to little children? Of course i'm going to bash stupidity because this forum is crawling with it. And yes I'm going to bash a sponsor that screwed me out of $$$ regardless of how much, because again it's the PRINCIPLE that matters, and they are the ones that look bad. I don't know how many times I have to repeat myself so the halfwits can understand.
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Wow. Apparently reading comprehension isn't a forte among the members of this forum. Do you idiots grasp the concept of the principle and not the money, or do I have to repeat myself as if i'm talking to little children? Of course i'm going to bash stupidity because this forum is crawling with it. And yes I'm going to bash a sponsor that screwed me out of $$$ regardless of how much, because again it's the PRINCIPLE that matters, and they are the ones that look bad. I don't know how many times I have to repeat myself so the halfwits can understand.
see what i mean?
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Apparently not if you're still not getting it. Maybe it's better that you stay out of real arguments and stick to whatever it is you do behind your computer.
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No.. You notice I don't have any nudity on my site and when the person has signed up, I have no control over what he does.. So it goes hand in hand with my morals.. I'm still waiting for proof.
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Why does this smell of fake drama?

Who really cares about a hundred and change? Also this guy seems WAY more intent on bashing everyone who posts in this thread to get the bumps and the drama going then his little bit of cash.

OK that said - here's my DRAMA spin on it.

Publicity stunt by DG?

Discuss.



typically i would agree, but i know thedemon and he definitely enjoys getting into forum bitch fights. he has this complex where he needs to feel like he is smart and everyone else is dumb.

im not saying that to be mean. ive always liked him on a personal level. he truely does enjoy attacking random people on forums and trying to sound like he's the only one that has a grain of intellect.

that being said, ive also never known him to be a cheater. i can understand not wanting a cheater to know where they slipped up and got caught, as it could make them reattempt the same thing, and tighten up their gameplan in the area that got them busted originally. however, i would think you could still show SOME sort of proof that he was cheating, if he was.



ps: dave, you still get on AIM?
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yea man, nice post.. Your aim still louisville? I have BL only for a while I'll add you as I'm typing this.
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they can't afford to pay you your $112 ....


but they can pay me ...




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never a problem with em...and usually they always reply immediately on icq .... my2c
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its all for the sig views right The Demon?

gotta fly that bitchen sig!
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Since when is a program obligated to reveal how they police their program and specifically why they dump an affiliate? Email them and ask them for an explanation in private.
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Since when is a program obligated to reveal how they police their program and specifically why they dump an affiliate? Email them and ask them for an explanation in private.
can you read?

he already asked for an explanation. their explanation was that 'he knows what he did'.

if a sponsor failed to pay me funds they owed, and their excuse was 'you know why!'.. i wouldn't be posting on gfy, i'd be taking legal action.

and yes, even over the amount of $100. small claims court is great for those sort of things.
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by the way, just so its clear.. i really hope DatingGold shows up in this thread and owns this guy. but all i can do is sit here and go WTF at their total lack of professionalism displayed thus far
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can you read?

he already asked for an explanation. their explanation was that 'he knows what he did'.

if a sponsor failed to pay me funds they owed, and their excuse was 'you know why!'.. i wouldn't be posting on gfy, i'd be taking legal action.

and yes, even over the amount of $100. small claims court is great for those sort of things.
Wake the fuck up and you read, DG said "Due to company policy I am unable to post publically and it would also let him see what he did wrong so he could screw us over again"

There isn't going to be a public explanation even with The Demon's 30 whiney posts in this thread so why do you keep clamouring for one?
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There isn't going to be a public explanation even with The Demon's 30 whiney posts in this thread so why do you keep clamouring for one?

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by the way, just so its clear.. i really hope DatingGold shows up in this thread and owns this guy. but all i can do is sit here and go WTF at their total lack of professionalism displayed thus far
Lol, you are clueless, the professional way to handle a matter like this is not to discuss details of an affiliates termination in public, but to handle the matter privately. Once The Demon finds out what he wants to know privately he then has the choice of airing it in public.
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Oh, I won DatingGold.com poker tourney on 2bet yesterday.. I hope I'll get my prize :D
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DG have a policy of not posting sensitive info on boards which must be respected, but on the other hand it must be infuriating to reach the point where you have to call someone out on GFY to get a response. It seems to me that in light of his questions being unanswered it would be a good move for someone from DG to contact him in private.
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And 24 hours later DG still has not responded nor contacted me.. I think we all know what's up here.
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Your $112 just filled up his Ferrari.... Twice.
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lol.. Yea I figured as much
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Bump for the unprofessional idiots at DG
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thats what we do but its very rare.. We convert trial to full about 45% if someone goes below 20% from trial to full then I might switch them to rev-share. we never shut anyone off.
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Still waiting on DG's delayed response.
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Damn, DG you're going to go down in flames with this aren't you?
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Damn, DG you're going to go down in flames with this aren't you?

haha your the one bumping the thread looking like an idiot not them.
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Damn, DG you're going to go down in flames with this aren't you?
If you look over your affiliate agreement; its about the most open ended document in the world. Most affiliate agreements in a nutshell are "If you don't fuck us over, we won't fuck you over...but we reserve the right to fuck you over either way"....

So as far as the person that said small claims...give me a break. And i'd like to point out that if you spent the same amount of time working as you do complaining over 100 bucks on GFY; you would have made it back twice over

i WOULD like to see dg just come out and say what this is about just for their owen PR. But I don't feel its necessary either
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Maybe not but the general consensus of GFY is that DG is acting completely unprofessional and shady, and are losing affiliates, which is just fine by me, at least I got my point across successfully..
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It's a little weird that they shut down your account after you stopped sending traffic. Is this the only time they check for "cheaters," or was it coincidence? ;)
I know of at least one old-school PPC sponsor which only decided not to pay you after the period had ended... and you asked a month later where your check was.
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Maybe not but the general consensus of GFY is that DG is acting completely unprofessional and shady, and are losing affiliates, which is just fine by me, at least I got my point across successfully..
The gfy consensus is that you're a whiney little kid who got caught cheating and can't seem to understand that a sponsor isn't going to discuss their specific dealings with an affiliate on a public forum.
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Old 06-14-2006, 01:55 PM   #148
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That's the general consensus? Wow lazycash it's clear to everyone here that you can't follow a discussion. I realize reading comprehension isn't your strong suit but I would advise that you improve it before replying in this thread. Or rather, read the entire thread before you tell me what the general consensus is, because I speak from facts and you speak from your retarded bullshit. You're too stupid for me to go into the concept of an argument, so I'll leave it there and let you read up.. And Rowen I don't know who you are, so don't pretend like I did something..
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Old 06-14-2006, 02:00 PM   #149
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That's the general consensus? Wow lazycash it's clear to everyone here that you can't follow a discussion. I realize reading comprehension isn't your strong suit but I would advise that you improve it before replying in this thread. Or rather, read the entire thread before you tell me what the general consensus is, because I speak from facts and you speak from your retarded bullshit. You're too stupid for me to go into the concept of an argument, so I'll leave it there and let you read up.. And Rowen I don't know who you are, so don't pretend like I did something..


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Old 06-14-2006, 02:03 PM   #150
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Yea, I have people with the IQ of a single celled oganism trying to talk shit, and I'm the dick. I'll try being nicer if some of these lowlifes try being smarter.
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