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Old 06-06-2006, 12:11 AM   #1
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Do any of you that voted for Bush in 2000 and 2004

Regret voting for him? Hindsight is 20/20 and all, so don't be afraid to admit you made a mistake.
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Old 06-06-2006, 01:43 AM   #2
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any idiot could have predicted this was gonna happen
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I actually didnt vote. Couldnt vote for a Democrat but couldnt vote for Bush. So I reserved my right to NOT vote.
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What Mr. Eastwood said
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What Mr. Eastwood said
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I actually didnt vote. Couldnt vote for a Democrat but couldnt vote for Bush. So I reserved my right to NOT vote.
You are part of the problem. You do realize there are other candidates other than Dems or Republicans. And what do you mean can't vote for a Dem? So you could agree with a guy 100% but because he has a D next to his name you won't vote for him? That's retarded. You should vote for the person not the party. How do you think a Republican who's main issues are reducing deficits, geting rid of big government and stoping illegal immigration feels about having voted for Bush right now?
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I voted for Kerry... I just wish McCain would have gotten the nod over Bush in 2000 because I definitely would have voted for him. After everything that happened between 2000 and 2004 I can't believe Bush got voted back in. Oh well, it's just our country and our lives though right, nothing too important.
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I voted for Kerry... I just wish McCain would have gotten the nod over Bush in 2000 because I definitely would have voted for him. After everything that happened between 2000 and 2004 I can't believe Bush got voted back in. Oh well, it's just our country and our lives though right, nothing too important.
Yep I would have voted for McCain in 2000. Why is it that republicans are so stupid to nominate Bush and not McCain? Funny thing is NOW they want McCain to be their guy in 2008. A little late now isn't it? I mean if you thought he sucked so bad in 2000 why do you want him now? Because you know Frist can't win? Anyways McCain is too old now. He'll be about the same age as Reagan was when he ran in 1980.
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You are part of the problem. You do realize there are other candidates other than Dems or Republicans. And what do you mean can't vote for a Dem? So you could agree with a guy 100% but because he has a D next to his name you won't vote for him? That's retarded. You should vote for the person not the party. How do you think a Republican who's main issues are reducing deficits, geting rid of big government and stoping illegal immigration feels about having voted for Bush right now?
If I voted for anyone else, it would just be throwing my vote away. I voted in the primaries and also campaigned for my local REPUBLICAN politician. Sorry I am VERY conservative and VERY Republican and that will never change.
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Reasons I am a Republican.

Abortion is murder
I believe in the 2nd amendment
I believe in public hangings. Put the express lane in!

This is why I would never vote for a Democrat.

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anyone that voted for Bush step forward, we want to know who's responsible
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Reasons I am a Republican.

Abortion is murder
I believe in the 2nd amendment
I believe in public hangings. Put the express lane in!

This is why I would never vote for a Democrat.

You can't be that much of a republican if you didn't even vote in the federal election. In other countries where voting is compulsary (or you get fined and/or jail time) nobody can bitch about no-shows because everryone had a say.

You need more action and less talk.
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Reasons I am a Republican.

Abortion is murder
I believe in the 2nd amendment
I believe in public hangings. Put the express lane in!

This is why I would never vote for a Democrat.

you realize you have the devil in your sig right?
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You can't be that much of a republican if you didn't even vote in the federal election. In other countries where voting is compulsary (or you get fined and/or jail time) nobody can bitch about no-shows because everryone had a say.

You need more action and less talk.
Well actually, people fought for the right for me to vote or NOT vote. As a right of being in this country. I exercised my RIGHT.

I am in the USA, not any other country.
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Yep I would have voted for McCain in 2000. Why is it that republicans are so stupid to nominate Bush and not McCain? Funny thing is NOW they want McCain to be their guy in 2008. A little late now isn't it? I mean if you thought he sucked so bad in 2000 why do you want him now? Because you know Frist can't win? Anyways McCain is too old now. He'll be about the same age as Reagan was when he ran in 1980.
I always wonder too if 9/11 would have happened if Gore got elected. I know it's hard to tell, but you have to admit with all the history between Bush Senior and the Middle East, Bush Jr getting elected probably magnified anything they may have already been planning.

Also with the whole Republican or Democrat thing, isn't that system a little dated. I would much rather be free to choose my own values than to feel like I have to fit a certain mold of a political parties beliefs.

And as far as the second amendment goes, I have no problem with people having the right to bear arms, but who other than a soldier or police officer needs a fully automatic assault rifle. Gee, I'm going hunting, I think I may need that AK-47 because those deer are pretty dangerous. Sorry, I don't usually rant like this...
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Why yes, I do. How nice of you to point that out.
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Reasons I am a Republican.

Abortion is murder
I know there are dems that are pro-life and republicans that are pro-choice. So who do you choose in that? Beside abortion should NEVER have been a politcal issue. To vote based on that is retarded. Sorry, but it is.

Guilianni is pro-chocie what if he's the GOP nominee in 2008?

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Anyone that votes for a republican because "Gore or Kerry or ( insert Dem candidate's name here ) is going to take away your guns" is also retarded. Show you have ZERO knowledge on how government works and that you also believe bullshit TV ads. Which means it's good you don't vote, you don't deserve to vote.

Let's see the fact is Gore nor Kerry wanted to take away anyone's guns. ut let's say a President Kerry did. now laws are passed by the Preisdent theya re passed by CONGRESS. Who controlls that? Um...REPUBLICANS. Are republcians going to vote fore a gun ban law? No fucking way. Now let's say they did for some reason then the law would be challenge by the NRA all the way to the Supremem Court. Now who controls that? Um... that's right REPUBLICANS. They would quickly call a complete gun ban law unconstitutional. So see it would never happen so why bother voting based on that? If dems wanted to ban gusn they would have done it when they conrolled the White House, Congress and Supreme Court yet they didn't. Hmmmmmm.

The 2nd Admendment is all fucked anyways because it's completely misinterpreted and hypocritical. If the 2nd Admendment means what you think it means I should be able to own a grenade launcher, tank, or even a nuke. I can't. Justify that? You can't.

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Let's see last one was about 100 years ago. Most states don't even use the electric chair anymore.

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Fact is ONE party government does not work. Nazi Germany, the USSR are just 2 examples. Government works best when the extremists on both sides are left out of the picture. Power corrupts, ABSOLUTE power corrupts ABSOLUTELY.

Quit drinking the GOP kool-aid. And no I'm not a Dem, but I was a former republican however.
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Regret voting for him? Hindsight is 20/20 and all, so don't be afraid to admit you made a mistake.
not many people can admit that they did it ?)
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Republicans generally support lower taxes across the board, which means they tend to favor lower spending on most government programs.

The Republican Party honors individual property rights and promotes the shifting of power to local communities and away from centralized government.

The Republican Party opposes strong gun control legislation and supports the individual's right to bear arms.

Republicans generally push for strong enforcement and tough laws against drug traffic and juvenile crime.

The Republican Party promotes a strong national defense.

The Republican platform is pro-life, while Democrats tend to support a pro-choice position.

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Ok... I googled a 'lil and I am still agreeing with the platform.
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but you do porn? something pretty much every republican campaigns against?
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Regret voting for him? Hindsight is 20/20 and all, so don't be afraid to admit you made a mistake.
not many people can admit that they did it
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but you do porn? something pretty much every republican campaigns against?
I dont ever see the porn issue when I am voting, that never effects me.

Porn will always be here, no sense in chosing sides over that.

Too small an issue. I can always adapt to the "market".
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Well actually, people fought for the right for me to vote or NOT vote. As a right of being in this country. I exercised my RIGHT.

I am in the USA, not any other country.

Exercising your rights are fine but if you're going to sit back and be part of the problem sighting your right to not contribute to your countries future as an excuse then you are only helping the demise of your own people.

What happends if only 1 person votes in the next election?

What happends if you don't agree with anything the candidate believes in? By not voting, you are essentially granting them unlimited power for their time in office- BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T VOTE.

Is this fair?
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then why he is a president now?
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What happends if only 1 person votes in the next election?
But this will never happen.

In the last Gubenetorial Election I was out 10 HOURS a day on the weekends campaigning for my Governor of the state of Maryland. If I believe in something I will fight for it. But no, until they have a POPULAR election where the PEOPLE are counted, one by one and there is NO Electoral College, I will not take it too seriously. I have voted in EVERY election (primary and Presidential) since I was 18 so I do my part.

Sorry for the misspellings, it is pretty late here.
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this and gatorb's misrepresentations are exactly what's wrong with the voting public.
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I always wonder too if 9/11 would have happened if Gore got elected. I know it's hard to tell, but you have to admit with all the history between Bush Senior and the Middle East, Bush Jr getting elected probably magnified anything they may have already been planning.
This is a glaring example of left wing propaganda having an effect on people.
It's such a stunningly dopey idea I'm not sure exactly how to respond.

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And as far as the second amendment goes, I have no problem with people having the right to bear arms, but who other than a soldier or police officer needs a fully automatic assault rifle. Gee, I'm going hunting, I think I may need that AK-47 because those deer are pretty dangerous. Sorry, I don't usually rant like this...
another casualty of propaganda.
son, fully automatic weapons have been illegal since about 1939 or so (I'm too lazy to look up such a commonly known fact)
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The 2nd Admendment is all fucked anyways because it's completely misinterpreted and hypocritical. If the 2nd Admendment means what you think it means I should be able to own a grenade launcher, tank, or even a nuke. I can't. Justify that? You can't.
another fool of the left.
The second amendment has been perverted by the left. (anyone wanting to argue about it and using the words "tank" and "nuke" has no understanding of it)
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But this will never happen.

In the last Gubenetorial Election I was out 10 HOURS a day on the weekends campaigning for my Governor of the state of Maryland. If I believe in something I will fight for it. But no, until they have a POPULAR election where the PEOPLE are counted, one by one and there is NO Electoral College, I will not take it too seriously. I have voted in EVERY election (primary and Presidential) since I was 18 so I do my part.

Sorry for the misspellings, it is pretty late here.
It would make more sense if the "no voters" were tallied up into their own party. That way you can still exercise your right not to vote, but also take on responsibility for the outcome of an election.
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I did vote for Bush he was the lesser of 2 evils
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Amysworld! Thanks for all the typing.

Gore could have and prolly would have been worse as hard as that is to believe for all here.
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When you talk about guns and the rights of gun owners, please don't talk about hunting. That is just a side issue and serves no purpose in the discussion.
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Amysworld! Thanks for all the typing.

Gore could have and prolly would have been worse as hard as that is to believe for all here.
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It would make more sense if the "no voters" were tallied up into their own party. That way you can still exercise your right not to vote, but also take on responsibility for the outcome of an election.
LOL! Actually if the "No Voters" were tallied, we would have had a Democrat in the house a long time ago. Dont preach to me.
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Republicans generally support lower taxes across the board, which means they tend to favor lower spending on most government programs.
Remind me who idea this was and who sign this new overbloated medicare drug program? Remind me how much the deficit has gone up the last 6 years?

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Didn't the Supreme Court say it was alright for local governments to sieze property and give it to provate business? Who controll the supreme court?

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ALL candidates support individual rights to bear arms. You do NOT need an AK-47 to hunt deer or protect your home. Gujn control? God forbid we do that. If you are a law abiding citizen then you have nothing to fear from gun control laws right? I mean if you are not insnane a felon or about to commit a murder or other crime what is the issue with waiting a few days for your gun? if you need it sooner apply sooner.

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ALL candidates are for law enforcement.

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ALL candidates want to protect America. Tapping my phone and tracing what websites I surf does NOT protect America. FDR was a democrat and we kicked ass in WWII. Hmmmmmmm. Might want to rethink your "logic"

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Who fuckign cares? You say porn is small issue this is a smaller one. Banning porn takes money out of my pocket. Abortion? Hmmm one less mouth on welfare. Yep that's bad thing.

First of all abortion is a STATE issue. You want LESS centralized government yet want to make abortion a FEDERAL isssue? Contridiction anyone? Last time I checked abortions were not only around in the late 1700's they were pretty common. So I think if our founding fathers thought it was so important one way or another they would have said SOMETHING about it don't you think?
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Remind me who idea this was and who sign this new overbloated medicare drug program? Remind me how much the deficit has gone up the last 6 years?



Didn't the Supreme Court say it was alright for local governments to sieze property and give it to provate business? Who controll the supreme court?



ALL candidates support individual rights to bear arms. You do NOT need an AK-47 to hunt deer or protect your home. Gujn control? God forbid we do that. If you are a law abiding citizen then you have nothing to fear from gun control laws right? I mean if you are not insnane a felon or about to commit a murder or other crime what is the issue with waiting a few days for your gun? if you need it sooner apply sooner.



ALL candidates are for law enforcement.



ALL candidates want to protect America. Tapping my phone and tracing what websites I surf does NOT protect America. FDR was a democrat and we kicked ass in WWII. Hmmmmmmm. Might want to rethink your "logic"



Who fuckign cares? You say porn is small issue this is a smaller one. Banning porn takes money out of my pocket. Abortion? Hmmm one less mouth on welfare. Yep that's bad thing.

First of all abortion is a STATE issue. You want LESS centralized government yet want to make abortion a FEDERAL isssue? Contridiction anyone? Last time I checked abortions were not only around in the late 1700's they were pretty common. So I think if our founding fathers thought it was so important one way or another they would have said SOMETHING about it don't you think?


Proof you are an uniformed keyboard warrior. You post thousands of political post every day on god knows how many message boards and then you prove you have little if any understanding and ability to sort through basic facts.

Example: A five year old with a learning disabilty knows that the democrats on the supreme court voted for eminent domain.

Just a lot of proof that you generally just copy and paste someone else's articles.
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Well actually, people fought for the right for me to vote or NOT vote. As a right of being in this country. I exercised my RIGHT.

I am in the USA, not any other country.

Actually, I'm sure you did vote in that last election.

It is like the old saying:

"I plan to vote republican until I die, then of course I'm sure I will be voting democrat after I'm dead."
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Old 06-06-2006, 05:06 AM   #40
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You are part of the problem. You do realize there are other candidates other than Dems or Republicans. And what do you mean can't vote for a Dem? So you could agree with a guy 100% but because he has a D next to his name you won't vote for him? That's retarded. You should vote for the person not the party. How do you think a Republican who's main issues are reducing deficits, geting rid of big government and stoping illegal immigration feels about having voted for Bush right now?
exactly, its very close minded
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Old 06-06-2006, 05:06 AM   #41
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most americans are just plain stupid.
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Old 06-06-2006, 05:11 AM   #42
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I voted for Bush both times and would vote for him again. I shudder to think what would have happened if we had put a lunatic leftist traitor like John Kerry in office. The Democrats are in the pocket of the Move On/Michael Moore left. I would rather put a trained chimp in office (insert Bush = chimp joke here) than those fucking scumbag traitors.
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Old 06-06-2006, 05:28 AM   #43
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Please some explain, rationally, this paranoia about the gov't "taking away your guns"?

No, don't bother ... I'll never understand it unless I was born in America, but one easier question, perhaps:

Honestly, would any of you vote - or not vote - for a candidate based (almost) solely on his 2nd amendment position?
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Old 06-06-2006, 05:29 AM   #44
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I voted for Bush both times and would vote for him again. I shudder to think what would have happened if we had put a lunatic leftist traitor like John Kerry in office. The Democrats are in the pocket of the Move On/Michael Moore left. I would rather put a trained chimp in office (insert Bush = chimp joke here) than those fucking scumbag traitors.

agreed. Anyone who voted for Kerry shouldn't be attempting to make fun of anyone else's vote.

Kerry just didn't have it. So many sheep blindly voted for him without him having to even explain any of his "plans".


Dont get me started on Gore. Can you believe he was that close to being president of the United States. I'm glad to global warming people have him now, I'm tired of hearing about that. He is sure to kill that cause.
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Old 06-06-2006, 05:39 AM   #45
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I actually didnt vote. Couldnt vote for a Democrat but couldnt vote for Bush. So I reserved my right to NOT vote.
there are more than two canidates
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Old 06-06-2006, 05:44 AM   #46
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okay so I should have read the response before I posted that...throwing a way a vote? Well, two elections ago votes for a third party canidate decided the election.

Plus, there is something to be said for voting with your beliefs (even if I disagree with them) and having your voice heard. I find it lazy not to vote. As an American living abroad you should see what I have to go through to vote and most anyone that lives there has to do is go to the local school and spent two minutes in a booth.
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Doesn't matter who you put in office, you're going to take it dry in the backdoor. Politicians are politicans no matter what 'party' they claim to represent.

Bush is a bumbling idiot which is wholy obvious based on his actions and popularity. I couldn't comment on how Kerry would do in the same situation because he's not in it. Anyone can sit around and armchair quarterback how their team would have done a better job.
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Please some explain, rationally, this paranoia about the gov't "taking away your guns"?

No, don't bother ... I'll never understand it unless I was born in America,
its part of who we are as americans. You can't understand it because its as mystical as our ability to always succeed.

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Honestly, would any of you vote - or not vote - for a candidate based (almost) solely on his 2nd amendment position?
yes I would but generally if a candidate is against the second amendment, he has plenty other leftist positions that would make him equally distasteful
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I will repeat a line from the Clinton Campaign for those of you out of diapers. " Are you better off today than you were six years ago?"

Instead of a talking about blow jobs in the White House we have
1. Wars in two countries and a third in the wings.
2. Higher interest rates, higher inflation, higher fuel prices
3. The the dollar is worth about 60% of what is was against other currencies
4. Indivdual freedoms are being nibbled away
5. The national debt is growing
6. There are fewer jobs that pay more than minimum wage
7. For the first time in history the government wants to add a constitutional amendment reducing human rights (anti gay marriage) whats next, no interracial marriage?

I have not had my coffee yet but I suspect many of you can add to this list of the good things Bush has brought to America.

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