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Clownbarf · 06-04-2006, 12:59 PM

I need 20 additional ips. My host recently declined the request since they were for blog posting and that didn't fall within ARIN guidelines. Anyone have some advice on what reasons I could use to justify these ips?

DatingGold · 06-04-2006, 01:18 PM

say you want to keep mainstream seperate from adult.

or get a new host

directfiesta · 06-04-2006, 01:22 PM

Go with tear2hosting ( you will find some thread here ).

They give you free as many IP's as you want

extreme · 06-04-2006, 01:24 PM

Standard reply 1 to this question: SSL servers.

micker · 06-04-2006, 01:29 PM

get a new host? What does it matter what you're going to do with them, you buy them and use them for what you want.

jerzeemedia · 06-04-2006, 01:36 PM

micker,

It actually DOES matter and quite a bit. One main reason is ARIN audits. If you can't justify your usage, that's a problem.

Spudstr · 06-04-2006, 01:46 PM

arin will only audit when you request IP space. They want to know if your A moving to your own IP space or b currently utilized what you have been assigned.

beware hosting companies that don't own their IP space will give out what they are alloted, and then they will request more from their upstream and they will ask for justification. And of course get denied. I wouldn't lie to an upstream they will catch you.

You pretty much can't use the old "dns server" for justification you can use the same IP for a dns server for multiple hosts.. a few reasons why you absolutely need your own IP space per domain/host.

SSL, (most common)
Any load balancing device that requires one ip per hsotname(old F5 BigIPs needed this not sure on the newer ones)
Mailserver/dns server that needs a Reverse record, more so applies to just a base mailserver due to rdns.
base host machines

those are the bigger/more valid reasons for IP justification.

Webby · 06-04-2006, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clownbarf

I need 20 additional ips. My host recently declined the request since they were for blog posting and that didn't fall within ARIN guidelines. Anyone have some advice on what reasons I could use to justify these ips?

Change hosts immediately and only contract to a new host who is willing to provide whatever IP's you want - either free or paid for.

And... let your current host know that you are changing because of this - it's amazing how this helps focus their minds.

zagi · 06-04-2006, 02:14 PM

I have a question guys, why do you need a seperate IP for each new blog?

I mean from the SEO literature that I've read that would only be necessary if you are linking blog to blog and they more or less deal with the same topic/content.

Otherwise, if your blogs are truly unique, then you dont need unique IPs for the most part. It makes sense to spread things out nonetheless but 20 IPs can easily support hundreds of blogs about different topics.

baddog · 06-04-2006, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zagi

I have a question guys, why do you need a seperate IP for each new blog?

I mean from the SEO literature that I've read that would only be necessary if you are linking blog to blog and they more or less deal with the same topic/content.

Otherwise, if your blogs are truly unique, then you dont need unique IPs for the most part. It makes sense to spread things out nonetheless but 20 IPs can easily support hundreds of blogs about different topics.

You are right. If your blogs are not of similar theme they can share IP's. If you are not using them all as feeders to one common site, you can also share them.

Damian_Maxcash · 06-04-2006, 02:19 PM

Im about to do the same thing - Im on a dedicated and was going to say that I resell and need at least one unique ip for each of those accounts.

directfiesta · 06-04-2006, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webby

Change hosts immediately and only contract to a new host who is willing to provide whatever IP's you want - either free or paid for.

And... let your current host know that you are changing because of this - it's amazing how this helps focus their minds.

I think that this is the best advice I read in weeks ....

Spudstr · 06-04-2006, 03:52 PM

Another justification.. tell them you are creating freebsd jails....

Clownbarf · 06-05-2006, 11:22 AM

Wow, what a great list of advice. thanks a bunch. Never heard of a freebsd jail though. Might have to look that one up.

Thomas N · 06-05-2006, 11:42 AM

anonymous ftp.

webair · 06-05-2006, 11:54 AM

thats kinda skinchy for 20 ips asking for justification...if it were liek 100 + then i can understand but 20?

Marshal · 06-05-2006, 01:06 PM

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i can make you some really good deal on splitinfinity and you would get as many ip's you want!

06-04-2006, 12:59 PM	#1
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Spudstr Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In a Tater Patch Posts: 2,321	arin will only audit when you request IP space. They want to know if your A moving to your own IP space or b currently utilized what you have been assigned. beware hosting companies that don't own their IP space will give out what they are alloted, and then they will request more from their upstream and they will ask for justification. And of course get denied. I wouldn't lie to an upstream they will catch you. You pretty much can't use the old "dns server" for justification you can use the same IP for a dns server for multiple hosts.. a few reasons why you absolutely need your own IP space per domain/host. SSL, (most common) Any load balancing device that requires one ip per hsotname(old F5 BigIPs needed this not sure on the newer ones) Mailserver/dns server that needs a Reverse record, more so applies to just a base mailserver due to rdns. base host machines those are the bigger/more valid reasons for IP justification. __________________ Managed Hosting - Colocation - Network Services Yellow Fiber Networks icq: 19876563

06-04-2006, 02:14 PM	#9
zagi Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,238	I have a question guys, why do you need a seperate IP for each new blog? I mean from the SEO literature that I've read that would only be necessary if you are linking blog to blog and they more or less deal with the same topic/content. Otherwise, if your blogs are truly unique, then you dont need unique IPs for the most part. It makes sense to spread things out nonetheless but 20 IPs can easily support hundreds of blogs about different topics. __________________ Managed US/NL Hosting [ [Reality Check Network ] Dell XEON Servers + 1/2/3 TB Packages ICQ: 4-930-562

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Damian_Maxcash So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: MaxCash.com Posts: 12,745	Im about to do the same thing - Im on a dedicated and was going to say that I resell and need at least one unique ip for each of those accounts.

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06-05-2006, 11:22 AM	#14
Clownbarf Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 283	Wow, what a great list of advice. thanks a bunch. Never heard of a freebsd jail though. Might have to look that one up.

06-05-2006, 11:42 AM	#15
Thomas N Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 973	anonymous ftp.

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