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  • Clownbarf
    Confirmed User
    • Oct 2001
    • 283

    #1

    Looking for reasons to justify additional IPs to host

    I need 20 additional ips. My host recently declined the request since they were for blog posting and that didn't fall within ARIN guidelines. Anyone have some advice on what reasons I could use to justify these ips?
  • DatingGold
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    • Feb 2003
    • 13185

    #2
    say you want to keep mainstream seperate from adult.

    or get a new host
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    • directfiesta
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Oct 2002
      • 30143

      #3
      Go with tear2hosting ( you will find some thread here ).

      They give you free as many IP's as you want
      I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

      But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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      • extreme
        Confirmed User
        • Oct 2002
        • 2120

        #4
        Standard reply 1 to this question: SSL servers.

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        • micker
          Confirmed User
          • Nov 2005
          • 748

          #5
          get a new host? What does it matter what you're going to do with them, you buy them and use them for what you want.

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          • jerzeemedia
            Confirmed User
            • May 2004
            • 1532

            #6
            micker,

            It actually DOES matter and quite a bit. One main reason is ARIN audits. If you can't justify your usage, that's a problem.
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            • Spudstr
              Confirmed User
              • Jan 2003
              • 2321

              #7
              arin will only audit when you request IP space. They want to know if your A moving to your own IP space or b currently utilized what you have been assigned.

              beware hosting companies that don't own their IP space will give out what they are alloted, and then they will request more from their upstream and they will ask for justification. And of course get denied. I wouldn't lie to an upstream they will catch you.

              You pretty much can't use the old "dns server" for justification you can use the same IP for a dns server for multiple hosts.. a few reasons why you absolutely need your own IP space per domain/host.


              SSL, (most common)
              Any load balancing device that requires one ip per hsotname(old F5 BigIPs needed this not sure on the newer ones)
              Mailserver/dns server that needs a Reverse record, more so applies to just a base mailserver due to rdns.
              base host machines

              those are the bigger/more valid reasons for IP justification.
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              • Webby
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Oct 2002
                • 14956

                #8
                Originally posted by Clownbarf
                I need 20 additional ips. My host recently declined the request since they were for blog posting and that didn't fall within ARIN guidelines. Anyone have some advice on what reasons I could use to justify these ips?
                Change hosts immediately and only contract to a new host who is willing to provide whatever IP's you want - either free or paid for.

                And... let your current host know that you are changing because of this - it's amazing how this helps focus their minds.
                Last edited by Webby; 06-04-2006, 01:13 PM.
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                • zagi
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 1238

                  #9
                  I have a question guys, why do you need a seperate IP for each new blog?

                  I mean from the SEO literature that I've read that would only be necessary if you are linking blog to blog and they more or less deal with the same topic/content.

                  Otherwise, if your blogs are truly unique, then you dont need unique IPs for the most part. It makes sense to spread things out nonetheless but 20 IPs can easily support hundreds of blogs about different topics.
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                  • baddog
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Apr 2001
                    • 107089

                    #10
                    Originally posted by zagi
                    I have a question guys, why do you need a seperate IP for each new blog?

                    I mean from the SEO literature that I've read that would only be necessary if you are linking blog to blog and they more or less deal with the same topic/content.

                    Otherwise, if your blogs are truly unique, then you dont need unique IPs for the most part. It makes sense to spread things out nonetheless but 20 IPs can easily support hundreds of blogs about different topics.

                    You are right. If your blogs are not of similar theme they can share IP's. If you are not using them all as feeders to one common site, you can also share them.

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                    • Damian_Maxcash
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 12745

                      #11
                      Im about to do the same thing - Im on a dedicated and was going to say that I resell and need at least one unique ip for each of those accounts.

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                      • directfiesta
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 30143

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Webby
                        Change hosts immediately and only contract to a new host who is willing to provide whatever IP's you want - either free or paid for.

                        And... let your current host know that you are changing because of this - it's amazing how this helps focus their minds.
                        I think that this is the best advice I read in weeks ....


                        I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                        But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                        • Spudstr
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 2321

                          #13
                          Another justification.. tell them you are creating freebsd jails....
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                          • Clownbarf
                            Confirmed User
                            • Oct 2001
                            • 283

                            #14
                            Wow, what a great list of advice. thanks a bunch. Never heard of a freebsd jail though. Might have to look that one up.

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                            • Thomas N
                              Confirmed User
                              • Aug 2001
                              • 973

                              #15
                              anonymous ftp.

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                              • webair
                                Confirmed User
                                • Feb 2002
                                • 8531

                                #16
                                thats kinda skinchy for 20 ips asking for justification...if it were liek 100 + then i can understand but 20?


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                                • Marshal
                                  Biz Dev and SEO
                                  • Jun 2005
                                  • 15219

                                  #17
                                  feel free to contact me on icq#: 53667259
                                  i can make you some really good deal on splitinfinity and you would get as many ip's you want!
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