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Clownbarf 06-04-2006 12:59 PM

Looking for reasons to justify additional IPs to host
 
I need 20 additional ips. My host recently declined the request since they were for blog posting and that didn't fall within ARIN guidelines. Anyone have some advice on what reasons I could use to justify these ips?

DatingGold 06-04-2006 01:18 PM

say you want to keep mainstream seperate from adult.

or get a new host

directfiesta 06-04-2006 01:22 PM

Go with tear2hosting ( you will find some thread here ).

They give you free as many IP's as you want :thumbsup

extreme 06-04-2006 01:24 PM

Standard reply 1 to this question: SSL servers.

micker 06-04-2006 01:29 PM

get a new host? What does it matter what you're going to do with them, you buy them and use them for what you want.

jerzeemedia 06-04-2006 01:36 PM

micker,

It actually DOES matter and quite a bit. One main reason is ARIN audits. If you can't justify your usage, that's a problem.

Spudstr 06-04-2006 01:46 PM

arin will only audit when you request IP space. They want to know if your A moving to your own IP space or b currently utilized what you have been assigned.

beware hosting companies that don't own their IP space will give out what they are alloted, and then they will request more from their upstream and they will ask for justification. And of course get denied. I wouldn't lie to an upstream they will catch you.

You pretty much can't use the old "dns server" for justification you can use the same IP for a dns server for multiple hosts.. a few reasons why you absolutely need your own IP space per domain/host.


SSL, (most common)
Any load balancing device that requires one ip per hsotname(old F5 BigIPs needed this not sure on the newer ones)
Mailserver/dns server that needs a Reverse record, more so applies to just a base mailserver due to rdns.
base host machines

those are the bigger/more valid reasons for IP justification.

Webby 06-04-2006 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clownbarf
I need 20 additional ips. My host recently declined the request since they were for blog posting and that didn't fall within ARIN guidelines. Anyone have some advice on what reasons I could use to justify these ips?

Change hosts immediately and only contract to a new host who is willing to provide whatever IP's you want - either free or paid for.

And... let your current host know that you are changing because of this - it's amazing how this helps focus their minds. :winkwink:

zagi 06-04-2006 02:14 PM

I have a question guys, why do you need a seperate IP for each new blog?

I mean from the SEO literature that I've read that would only be necessary if you are linking blog to blog and they more or less deal with the same topic/content.

Otherwise, if your blogs are truly unique, then you dont need unique IPs for the most part. It makes sense to spread things out nonetheless but 20 IPs can easily support hundreds of blogs about different topics.

baddog 06-04-2006 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zagi
I have a question guys, why do you need a seperate IP for each new blog?

I mean from the SEO literature that I've read that would only be necessary if you are linking blog to blog and they more or less deal with the same topic/content.

Otherwise, if your blogs are truly unique, then you dont need unique IPs for the most part. It makes sense to spread things out nonetheless but 20 IPs can easily support hundreds of blogs about different topics.


You are right. If your blogs are not of similar theme they can share IP's. If you are not using them all as feeders to one common site, you can also share them.

Damian_Maxcash 06-04-2006 02:19 PM

Im about to do the same thing - Im on a dedicated and was going to say that I resell and need at least one unique ip for each of those accounts.

directfiesta 06-04-2006 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webby
Change hosts immediately and only contract to a new host who is willing to provide whatever IP's you want - either free or paid for.

And... let your current host know that you are changing because of this - it's amazing how this helps focus their minds. :winkwink:

I think that this is the best advice I read in weeks ....


:winkwink:

Spudstr 06-04-2006 03:52 PM

Another justification.. tell them you are creating freebsd jails....

Clownbarf 06-05-2006 11:22 AM

Wow, what a great list of advice. thanks a bunch. Never heard of a freebsd jail though. Might have to look that one up.

Thomas N 06-05-2006 11:42 AM

anonymous ftp.

webair 06-05-2006 11:54 AM

thats kinda skinchy for 20 ips asking for justification...if it were liek 100 + then i can understand but 20?

Marshal 06-05-2006 01:06 PM

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i can make you some really good deal on splitinfinity and you would get as many ip's you want! :)


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