Would you promote OCCash if we were PPS? - GoFuckYourself.com

xxxjay · 05-30-2006, 01:12 PM

If you are not promoting OCCash, if we offered a $25 on trials ($20 no console) change your mind?

How do people feel about $35 on full joins?

u-Bob · 05-30-2006, 01:16 PM

revshare is fine.

cranki · 05-30-2006, 01:16 PM

OC Cash does well for me on revshare...

How was europe, jay? I'm looking forward for the antics on yer blog...

xxxjay · 05-30-2006, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by cranki

OC Cash does well for me on revshare...

How was europe, jay? I'm looking forward for the antics on yer blog...

Yeah, hopefully I can edit the rest of it tonight.

bigdog · 05-30-2006, 01:21 PM

i think you might have to raise it to at least $25 console free. The last program i remember to offer $20 per join was bangbrosonline when it first came out and it converted like hell.

GTS Mark · 05-30-2006, 01:25 PM

I think you would pick up a ton of webmasters if you did.

DH

Tempest · 05-30-2006, 01:43 PM

Revshare is fine with me if it converts and retains.

Didn't realize you had so many sites. Is it 50% minus fees or a true 50%. Frankly I'm getting tired of 50% sites that I put a bunch of work into and then are shit. Would prefer a flat 60%.

The main thing I need is quality pic content for each episode and FPAs for each site. I'm so much more cynical these days given we're constantly promised all this and then you join up and it's half there and/or crap. Prevents me from signing up to a lot of sites as opposed to sticking with what I have.

PPS would be nice. $25 nocon on $4.95 trial, $20 nocon on $1 trial, $35 con on $4.95 trial, $30 con on $1 trial would seem reasonable if the numbers worked for you.

Sunnydollars pays out $25 nocon $1 trials though. I love those guys.

Pimproll is also $25 nocon $1 trials and $30 nocon $4.99 trials.

Barefootsies · 05-30-2006, 01:55 PM

No.

breaker · 05-30-2006, 02:35 PM

revshare is fine.

justsexxx · 05-30-2006, 02:42 PM

I would promote if they had 25$ on trials.--->when not to much consoles yes
I would promote use the $35 on full joins.-->no, full join with my volume gets around 60-70%revshare. Then a 35USD on a 35USD monthly price is not really worth it.

Rick Latona · 05-30-2006, 02:49 PM

Jay,

Are you coming to Atlanta any time soon?

xxxjay · 05-30-2006, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick Latona

Jay,

Are you coming to Atlanta any time soon?

I'm sure I will be there sometime this summer...we have a lot of catching up to do...lol,

xxxjay · 05-30-2006, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by justsexxx

I would promote if they had 25$ on trials.--->when not to much consoles yes
I would promote use the $35 on full joins.-->no, full join with my volume gets around 60-70%revshare. Then a 35USD on a 35USD monthly price is not really worth it.

Why are you flying a "- 50% per signup and 50% per renewal" program's banner in your sig?

LOL

xxxjay · 05-30-2006, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DrinkingHARDEST

I think you would pick up a ton of webmasters if you did.

DH

Yeah, that is what I was thinking. I'm kind of suprised and glad that this poll has been going like it has.

People will send us their traffic eventually.

Even Lenny2.

Screaming · 05-30-2006, 08:26 PM

pretty much I only send to pps

I also only send to pps that offer atleast 30 per

xxxjay · 05-30-2006, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Screaming

pretty much I only send to pps

I also only send to pps that offer atleast 30 per

You have to remember that if you are sending to a saturated $30 program and to a less saturated program that converts even 50% better with a $25 payout you will be doing a lot better.

1000 hits out at 1:1000 paying $30 = 30$
1000 hits out at 1:750 paying $25 = 42.50$
1000 hits out at 1:500 paying $25 = 50$

1000 his out at 1:316 = 79.11$
(see: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...70&postcount=1)

Traffic guys need to start looking deeper at the numbers to see what their traffic is really worth. 1000 hits gone is 1000 hits gone. The whole being wowed by a $40 PPS is a trick to lure in newbie webmasters.

This isn't physics either, this is some 7th grade word problems.

SleazyDream · 05-30-2006, 09:01 PM

i'm like a hooker - i want cash upfront before the gallery even goes on my site.

Mpegmaster · 05-30-2006, 09:08 PM

30$ PPS and i will be all over you guys within no time

not that i don't like what i already make with you guys ;)

OCCASH ROCKS

xxxjay · 05-30-2006, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

i'm like a hooker - i want cash upfront before the gallery even goes on my site.

Yo dood...I hit you up but we lost eachother somehow...we want to buy some traffic.

bdld · 05-30-2006, 10:07 PM

overall im at about 15/join on revshare, so i'd go for $20 PPS console free. would be even better if it was $20PPS CS on $1 trial joins like some other programs offer

Playa-Deak · 05-30-2006, 11:21 PM

Actually, since I promote the Ebony Niche. Personally, I like OCCash being revshare... So when other sponsors not selling I always know OC is being built with the revshare (recurs). It's like guaranteed money with revshare, maybe the whale webmasters think different but from my perspective. I like revshare with OC... Sell great!

xxxjay · 05-30-2006, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bdld

overall im at about 15/join on revshare, so i'd go for $20 PPS console free. would be even better if it was $20PPS CS on $1 trial joins like some other programs offer

We refuse to do the totally limited trials, you get full accces to the site you joined for 2 days for $4.95 -- the rest of the network is only available to full members....if you get 50% with a limited trials, you also piss off the other half (50%) - I'd rather have 100% of people not afraid to join our sites and the 35% trial to full we have now.

Could be part of the reson our ratios are so good.

xxxjay · 05-30-2006, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Playa-Deak

Actually, since I promote the Ebony Niche. Personally, I like OCCash being revshare... So when other sponsors not selling I always know OC is being built with the revshare (recurs). It's like guaranteed money with revshare, maybe the whale webmasters think different but from my perspective. I like revshare with OC... Sell great!

Thanks dood. How are the galleries treating you?

justsexxx · 05-31-2006, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

Why are you flying a "- 50% per signup and 50% per renewal" program's banner in your sig?

LOL

Not sure why that is so funny. Like I said, I prefer revshare over a 35PPS for an active membership. Also the program in my signature starts at 50%, and goes up. When you send more signups, you will get a higher %. Also it's a clean payout. So when the join price is 35USD a month, the payout starts at 17,50USD...

Sorry for answering your thread with my honest opinion

xxxjay · 05-31-2006, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by justsexxx

Not sure why that is so funny. Like I said, I prefer revshare over a 35PPS for an active membership. Also the program in my signature starts at 50%, and goes up. When you send more signups, you will get a higher %. Also it's a clean payout. So when the join price is 35USD a month, the payout starts at 17,50USD...

Sorry for answering your thread with my honest opinion

Whoops, my bad...I should have read you post more carefully.

justsexxx · 05-31-2006, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

Whoops, my bad...I should have read you post more carefully.

No problem

Good luck with your decission.

xxxjay · 05-31-2006, 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justsexxx

Not sure why that is so funny. Like I said, I prefer revshare over a 35PPS for an active membership. Also the program in my signature starts at 50%, and goes up. When you send more signups, you will get a higher %. Also it's a clean payout. So when the join price is 35USD a month, the payout starts at 17,50USD...

Sorry for answering your thread with my honest opinion

Yeah, I saw that. We pay much higher percentages to our "whales" as well.

djroof · 05-31-2006, 04:15 AM

voted ;)

2HousePlague · 05-31-2006, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick Latona

Jay,

Are you coming to Atlanta any time soon?

Is this THE Rick Latona --

2hp

xxxjay · 05-31-2006, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by djroof

voted ;)

Thanks, anyone else that would like to put their 2 cents in, please feel free to do so. This is market research.

bigdog · 05-31-2006, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay

We refuse to do the totally limited trials, you get full accces to the site you joined for 2 days for $4.95 -- the rest of the network is only available to full members....if you get 50% with a limited trials, you also piss off the other half (50%) - I'd rather have 100% of people not afraid to join our sites and the 35% trial to full we have now.

Could be part of the reson our ratios are so good.

I hear there are people doing better then 50% so they are pissing off even more people

xxxjay · 05-31-2006, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bigdog

I hear there are people doing better then 50% so they are pissing off even more people

50% is average on limited vs 18% with full. We are at 34% and are happy and we think our surfers are too.

D-Money · 05-31-2006, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

i'm like a hooker - i want cash upfront before the gallery even goes on my site.

That's more like a pimp...

bigdog · 06-01-2006, 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay

50% is average on limited vs 18% with full. We are at 34% and are happy and we think our surfers are too.

who the hell is doing 18% these days that is lousy?

Mikey_219Inc · 06-01-2006, 02:04 AM

i would promote but in my country you go to prison if you make violence against dog

minimouse · 06-01-2006, 02:45 AM

I would if I had $25 per trial.

Troels · 06-01-2006, 03:18 AM

It would make no difference - revshare is fine. 30 37.97%
I would promote if they had 25$ on trials. 21

You've got to ask yourself which group of people send more signups.
People who don't care about revshare/pps, or pps followers..

By offering pps on trials you will get more big webmasters.

xxxjay · 06-01-2006, 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdog

who the hell is doing 18% these days that is lousy?

Almost everyone that doesn't use some kind of limited trial.

xxxjay · 06-01-2006, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Troels

By offering pps on trials you will get more big webmasters.

That is probably true.

V_RocKs · 06-01-2006, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Troels

It would make no difference - revshare is fine. 30 37.97%
I would promote if they had 25$ on trials. 21

You've got to ask yourself which group of people send more signups.
People who don't care about revshare/pps, or pps followers..

By offering pps on trials you will get more big webmasters.

Bing Bing Bing

View Poll Results: Would you promote OCCash if we were PPS?
It would make no difference - revshare is fine.	32	37.21%
I would promote if they had 25$ on trials.	23	26.74%
I would promote use the $35 on full joins.	10	11.63%
$35 on full joins isn't a real PPS.	21	24.42%
Voters: 86. You may not vote on this poll

05-30-2006, 01:12 PM	#1
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05-30-2006, 01:55 PM	#8
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05-30-2006, 02:35 PM	#9
breaker Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: .EU Fiasco Posts: 652	revshare is fine. __________________ Cash Breaker Latinas Deliciosas Blonde Loves Black She's Fuckable Fresh Blowjobs ICQ: 147104800

05-30-2006, 02:42 PM	#10
justsexxx Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 13,723	I would promote if they had 25$ on trials.--->when not to much consoles yes I would promote use the $35 on full joins.-->no, full join with my volume gets around 60-70%revshare. Then a 35USD on a 35USD monthly price is not really worth it. __________________ Questions? ICQ: 125184542

05-30-2006, 01:16 PM	#2
u-Bob there's no $$$ in porn Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: icq: 195./568.-230 (btw: not getting offline msgs) Posts: 33,063	revshare is fine.

05-30-2006, 01:16 PM	#3
cranki Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Café del Mar Posts: 5,162	OC Cash does well for me on revshare... How was europe, jay? I'm looking forward for the antics on yer blog...

05-30-2006, 01:21 PM	#5
bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	i think you might have to raise it to at least $25 console free. The last program i remember to offer $20 per join was bangbrosonline when it first came out and it converted like hell.

05-30-2006, 01:25 PM	#6
GTS Mark Vrume Mark Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 20,912	I think you would pick up a ton of webmasters if you did. DH

05-30-2006, 01:43 PM	#7
Tempest Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Location: West Coast, Canada. Posts: 10,217	Revshare is fine with me if it converts and retains. Didn't realize you had so many sites. Is it 50% minus fees or a true 50%. Frankly I'm getting tired of 50% sites that I put a bunch of work into and then are shit. Would prefer a flat 60%. The main thing I need is quality pic content for each episode and FPAs for each site. I'm so much more cynical these days given we're constantly promised all this and then you join up and it's half there and/or crap. Prevents me from signing up to a lot of sites as opposed to sticking with what I have. PPS would be nice. $25 nocon on $4.95 trial, $20 nocon on $1 trial, $35 con on $4.95 trial, $30 con on $1 trial would seem reasonable if the numbers worked for you. Sunnydollars pays out $25 nocon $1 trials though. I love those guys. Pimproll is also $25 nocon $1 trials and $30 nocon $4.99 trials.

05-30-2006, 02:49 PM	#11
Rick Latona The Best Ideas Start Here Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,037	Jay, Are you coming to Atlanta any time soon? __________________ Regards, Rick Latona http://latonas.com Latona's - We Sell Money Making Web Properties Note to buyers of websites and traffic: please check our inventory at http://latonas.com/websites-for-sale. If you would like to make an offer on something, just let me know.

05-30-2006, 08:26 PM	#15
Screaming I can change this!!!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 18,972	pretty much I only send to pps I also only send to pps that offer atleast 30 per __________________

05-30-2006, 09:01 PM	#17
SleazyDream I'm here for SPORT Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phone # (401) 285-0696 Posts: 41,470	i'm like a hooker - i want cash upfront before the gallery even goes on my site. __________________ This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog! Now read without the word dog.

05-30-2006, 09:08 PM	#18
Mpegmaster Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 2,300	30$ PPS and i will be all over you guys within no time not that i don't like what i already make with you guys ;) OCCASH ROCKS Last edited by Mpegmaster; 05-30-2006 at 09:09 PM..

05-30-2006, 10:07 PM	#20
bdld $100,000 Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 11,452	overall im at about 15/join on revshare, so i'd go for $20 PPS console free. would be even better if it was $20PPS CS on $1 trial joins like some other programs offer

05-30-2006, 11:21 PM	#21
Playa-Deak Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chi-Town Posts: 1,065	Actually, since I promote the Ebony Niche. Personally, I like OCCash being revshare... So when other sponsors not selling I always know OC is being built with the revshare (recurs). It's like guaranteed money with revshare, maybe the whale webmasters think different but from my perspective. I like revshare with OC... Sell great! __________________ I shoot Amateur Porn. Mostly Black Girls and Some White Gals... My site is www.FreakyDeak.com Check me out! ICQ: 205-608-095

05-31-2006, 04:15 AM	#28
djroof JuicyDevils.gr Owner Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Greece Posts: 25,416	voted ;)

06-01-2006, 02:04 AM	#35
Mikey_219Inc Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: i dont even know ... Posts: 1,876	i would promote but in my country you go to prison if you make violence against dog __________________ Let him who hath understanding reckon the WISDOM of the TOOF!

06-01-2006, 02:45 AM	#36
minimouse Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Home Posts: 1,493	I would if I had $25 per trial. __________________ Dead

06-01-2006, 03:18 AM	#37
Troels Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Between the clouds Posts: 1,035	It would make no difference - revshare is fine. 30 37.97% I would promote if they had 25$ on trials. 21 You've got to ask yourself which group of people send more signups. People who don't care about revshare/pps, or pps followers.. By offering pps on trials you will get more big webmasters.