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xxxjay 05-30-2006 01:12 PM

Would you promote OCCash if we were PPS?
 
If you are not promoting OCCash, if we offered a $25 on trials ($20 no console) change your mind?

How do people feel about $35 on full joins?

u-Bob 05-30-2006 01:16 PM

revshare is fine.

cranki 05-30-2006 01:16 PM

OC Cash does well for me on revshare...

How was europe, jay? I'm looking forward for the antics on yer blog... :thumbsup

xxxjay 05-30-2006 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cranki
OC Cash does well for me on revshare...

How was europe, jay? I'm looking forward for the antics on yer blog... :thumbsup

Yeah, hopefully I can edit the rest of it tonight.

bigdog 05-30-2006 01:21 PM

i think you might have to raise it to at least $25 console free. The last program i remember to offer $20 per join was bangbrosonline when it first came out and it converted like hell.

GTS Mark 05-30-2006 01:25 PM

I think you would pick up a ton of webmasters if you did.

DH

Tempest 05-30-2006 01:43 PM

Revshare is fine with me if it converts and retains.

Didn't realize you had so many sites. Is it 50% minus fees or a true 50%. Frankly I'm getting tired of 50% sites that I put a bunch of work into and then are shit. Would prefer a flat 60%.

The main thing I need is quality pic content for each episode and FPAs for each site. I'm so much more cynical these days given we're constantly promised all this and then you join up and it's half there and/or crap. Prevents me from signing up to a lot of sites as opposed to sticking with what I have.

PPS would be nice. $25 nocon on $4.95 trial, $20 nocon on $1 trial, $35 con on $4.95 trial, $30 con on $1 trial would seem reasonable if the numbers worked for you.

Sunnydollars pays out $25 nocon $1 trials though. I love those guys.

Pimproll is also $25 nocon $1 trials and $30 nocon $4.99 trials.

Barefootsies 05-30-2006 01:55 PM

No.

:2 cents:

breaker 05-30-2006 02:35 PM

revshare is fine.

justsexxx 05-30-2006 02:42 PM

I would promote if they had 25$ on trials.--->when not to much consoles yes
I would promote use the $35 on full joins.-->no, full join with my volume gets around 60-70%revshare. Then a 35USD on a 35USD monthly price is not really worth it.

Rick Latona 05-30-2006 02:49 PM

Jay,

Are you coming to Atlanta any time soon?

xxxjay 05-30-2006 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Latona
Jay,

Are you coming to Atlanta any time soon?

I'm sure I will be there sometime this summer...we have a lot of catching up to do...lol,

xxxjay 05-30-2006 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justsexxx
I would promote if they had 25$ on trials.--->when not to much consoles yes
I would promote use the $35 on full joins.-->no, full join with my volume gets around 60-70%revshare. Then a 35USD on a 35USD monthly price is not really worth it.

Why are you flying a "- 50% per signup and 50% per renewal" program's banner in your sig?

LOL

xxxjay 05-30-2006 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrinkingHARDEST
I think you would pick up a ton of webmasters if you did.

DH

Yeah, that is what I was thinking. I'm kind of suprised and glad that this poll has been going like it has.

People will send us their traffic eventually.

Even Lenny2.

Screaming 05-30-2006 08:26 PM

pretty much I only send to pps

I also only send to pps that offer atleast 30 per

xxxjay 05-30-2006 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Screaming
pretty much I only send to pps

I also only send to pps that offer atleast 30 per

You have to remember that if you are sending to a saturated $30 program and to a less saturated program that converts even 50% better with a $25 payout you will be doing a lot better.

1000 hits out at 1:1000 paying $30 = 30$
1000 hits out at 1:750 paying $25 = 42.50$
1000 hits out at 1:500 paying $25 = 50$

1000 his out at 1:316 = 79.11$
(see: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...70&postcount=1)

Traffic guys need to start looking deeper at the numbers to see what their traffic is really worth. 1000 hits gone is 1000 hits gone. The whole being wowed by a $40 PPS is a trick to lure in newbie webmasters.

This isn't physics either, this is some 7th grade word problems.

SleazyDream 05-30-2006 09:01 PM

i'm like a hooker - i want cash upfront before the gallery even goes on my site.

Mpegmaster 05-30-2006 09:08 PM

30$ PPS and i will be all over you guys within no time:)
:winkwink:
not that i don't like what i already make with you guys ;)

OCCASH ROCKS :thumbsup

xxxjay 05-30-2006 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream
i'm like a hooker - i want cash upfront before the gallery even goes on my site.

Yo dood...I hit you up but we lost eachother somehow...we want to buy some traffic.

bdld 05-30-2006 10:07 PM

overall im at about 15/join on revshare, so i'd go for $20 PPS console free. would be even better if it was $20PPS CS on $1 trial joins like some other programs offer

Playa-Deak 05-30-2006 11:21 PM

Actually, since I promote the Ebony Niche. Personally, I like OCCash being revshare... So when other sponsors not selling I always know OC is being built with the revshare (recurs). It's like guaranteed money with revshare, maybe the whale webmasters think different but from my perspective. I like revshare with OC... Sell great! :pimp

xxxjay 05-30-2006 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdld
overall im at about 15/join on revshare, so i'd go for $20 PPS console free. would be even better if it was $20PPS CS on $1 trial joins like some other programs offer

We refuse to do the totally limited trials, you get full accces to the site you joined for 2 days for $4.95 -- the rest of the network is only available to full members....if you get 50% with a limited trials, you also piss off the other half (50%) - I'd rather have 100% of people not afraid to join our sites and the 35% trial to full we have now.

Could be part of the reson our ratios are so good.

xxxjay 05-30-2006 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Playa-Deak
Actually, since I promote the Ebony Niche. Personally, I like OCCash being revshare... So when other sponsors not selling I always know OC is being built with the revshare (recurs). It's like guaranteed money with revshare, maybe the whale webmasters think different but from my perspective. I like revshare with OC... Sell great! :pimp

Thanks dood. How are the galleries treating you?

justsexxx 05-31-2006 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay
Why are you flying a "- 50% per signup and 50% per renewal" program's banner in your sig?

LOL


Not sure why that is so funny. Like I said, I prefer revshare over a 35PPS for an active membership. Also the program in my signature starts at 50%, and goes up. When you send more signups, you will get a higher %. Also it's a clean payout. So when the join price is 35USD a month, the payout starts at 17,50USD...

Sorry for answering your thread with my honest opinion:Oh crap

xxxjay 05-31-2006 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justsexxx
Not sure why that is so funny. Like I said, I prefer revshare over a 35PPS for an active membership. Also the program in my signature starts at 50%, and goes up. When you send more signups, you will get a higher %. Also it's a clean payout. So when the join price is 35USD a month, the payout starts at 17,50USD...

Sorry for answering your thread with my honest opinion:Oh crap

Whoops, my bad...I should have read you post more carefully. :)

justsexxx 05-31-2006 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay
Whoops, my bad...I should have read you post more carefully. :)

No problem:thumbsup Good luck with your decission.

xxxjay 05-31-2006 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justsexxx
Not sure why that is so funny. Like I said, I prefer revshare over a 35PPS for an active membership. Also the program in my signature starts at 50%, and goes up. When you send more signups, you will get a higher %. Also it's a clean payout. So when the join price is 35USD a month, the payout starts at 17,50USD...

Sorry for answering your thread with my honest opinion:Oh crap

Yeah, I saw that. We pay much higher percentages to our "whales" as well.

djroof 05-31-2006 04:15 AM

voted ;)

2HousePlague 05-31-2006 04:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Latona
Jay,

Are you coming to Atlanta any time soon?

Is this THE Rick Latona -- :bowdown

2hp

xxxjay 05-31-2006 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djroof
voted ;)

Thanks, anyone else that would like to put their 2 cents in, please feel free to do so. This is market research.

bigdog 05-31-2006 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay
We refuse to do the totally limited trials, you get full accces to the site you joined for 2 days for $4.95 -- the rest of the network is only available to full members....if you get 50% with a limited trials, you also piss off the other half (50%) - I'd rather have 100% of people not afraid to join our sites and the 35% trial to full we have now.

Could be part of the reson our ratios are so good.

I hear there are people doing better then 50% so they are pissing off even more people

xxxjay 05-31-2006 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdog
I hear there are people doing better then 50% so they are pissing off even more people

50% is average on limited vs 18% with full. We are at 34% and are happy and we think our surfers are too.

D-Money 05-31-2006 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream
i'm like a hooker - i want cash upfront before the gallery even goes on my site.

That's more like a pimp...

:pimp

bigdog 06-01-2006 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay
50% is average on limited vs 18% with full. We are at 34% and are happy and we think our surfers are too.

who the hell is doing 18% these days that is lousy?

Mikey_219Inc 06-01-2006 02:04 AM

i would promote but in my country you go to prison if you make violence against dog

minimouse 06-01-2006 02:45 AM

I would if I had $25 per trial.

Troels 06-01-2006 03:18 AM

It would make no difference - revshare is fine. 30 37.97%
I would promote if they had 25$ on trials. 21

You've got to ask yourself which group of people send more signups.
People who don't care about revshare/pps, or pps followers..

By offering pps on trials you will get more big webmasters.

xxxjay 06-01-2006 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdog
who the hell is doing 18% these days that is lousy?

Almost everyone that doesn't use some kind of limited trial.

xxxjay 06-01-2006 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Troels

By offering pps on trials you will get more big webmasters.

That is probably true.

V_RocKs 06-01-2006 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Troels
It would make no difference - revshare is fine. 30 37.97%
I would promote if they had 25$ on trials. 21

You've got to ask yourself which group of people send more signups.
People who don't care about revshare/pps, or pps followers..

By offering pps on trials you will get more big webmasters.


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