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quiet · 05-23-2002, 05:54 PM

Is there anyone who can recommend a good investment company for long term investments of 1 M plus?

i've been concentrating all my time and effort on my online biz for the past 6-7 years, and beyond some small time investing, most of my assets are currently liquid.

basically, i'm looking for a place to put 1.5 - 2.5 M away, safely, and collect interest from it, at the best possible rate, with very low risk. i've talked to several banks (who have all tried their best to convince me), and i've come away pretty much unimpressed so far.

thanks :)

metaphoric · 05-23-2002, 05:57 PM

you can give it to me.

Lane · 05-23-2002, 05:57 PM

lol, do you expect replies other than "give it to me?"

quiet · 05-23-2002, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lane
lol, do you expect replies other than "give it to me?"

actually, yes.

Lane · 05-23-2002, 05:58 PM

damn, it already happened before i hit the post button

metaphoric · 05-23-2002, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lane
lol, do you expect replies other than "give it to me?"

Madam Cleo? Is that you?

quiet · 05-23-2002, 05:58 PM

lane = metaphoric

Lane · 05-23-2002, 05:59 PM

hehe
anyways, all i can say is, dont invest in stocks.. its not different than gambling in my opinion

metaphoric · 05-23-2002, 06:00 PM

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Originally posted by quiet
lane = metaphoric

ummm, no.

Amputate Your Head · 05-23-2002, 06:01 PM

I can make a recommendation quiet.

Lane · 05-23-2002, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by metaphoric

ummm, no.

why not?

quiet · 05-23-2002, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lane
hehe
anyways, all i can say is, dont invest in stocks.. its not different than gambling in my opinion

oh no. i am not interested in risk. annuities, mutual funds - with low risk. with someone who specializes in personal investments over 1 M. also, i'm in Canada, so would have to have a presence here.

quiet · 05-23-2002, 06:02 PM

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Originally posted by Lane

why not?

you lie!

quiet · 05-23-2002, 06:04 PM

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Originally posted by metaphoric

ummm, no.

i mean - you lie!

quiet · 05-23-2002, 06:05 PM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
I can make a recommendation quiet.

please do. lmk if you don't want post it here and i'll email you.

Naughty · 05-23-2002, 06:05 PM

Ask Lens, other than buying cars, boats and going on vacation, I'm sure he has put some cash away on solid investments.

I'd say: Real Estate is the way to go. Never can go wrong there, unless you buy real estate in a dangerous area, like earthquake or twister sensitive area's.

Nysus · 05-23-2002, 06:05 PM

quiet, I know there are some very good companies. Most require $250,000 minimum, and if they don't meet 15% or 20% or whatever their goal is, then they don't pay themselves - that's good motivation for them to not fuck around.

I really don't remember the firm name, but just look around - banks can never offer you very good rates, unless you go higher up the management chain. Though, you can demand many things from banks if you have that money to put infront of them.

Cheers,
Matt

quiet · 05-23-2002, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Naughty
Ask Lens, other than buying cars, boats and going on vacation, I'm sure he has put some cash away on solid investments.

I'd say: Real Estate is the way to go. Never can go wrong there, unless you buy real estate in a dangerous area, like earthquake or twister sensitive area's.

i agree that realestate is a great way to invest. i currently own my own home (no mortgage), and am buying a ski-in ski-out condo right now.

however, i would rather someone else handle the bulk of my investments - if i can find someone i can trust

FreeOnes · 05-23-2002, 06:11 PM

this thread is growing to fast

metaphoric · 05-23-2002, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet

i mean - you lie!

Can I sue you for slander?

Amputate Your Head · 05-23-2002, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet

please do. lmk if you don't want post it here and i'll email you.

This place requires a minimum of 1 mil I believe before they'll even talk to you. They may have changed that though. It may not be the solution for you, but they have volumes of information that may be helpful. Yes, email me: amp at opticalamplitude.com

m0rph3us · 05-23-2002, 06:14 PM

http://home.ingdirect.com/

THese guys know their stuff. I figure if you have 2.5 mil you should be set for life brother just living from the interest. You could easily get 100k a year doing nothing.

DPlayMax · 05-23-2002, 06:15 PM

quiet - contact me @ [email protected] - i have some people you might want to talk with

Roxxy · 05-23-2002, 06:17 PM

Family friend who KNOWS his shit!

http://www.edwardjones.com/cgi/getHT...ml&CIRN=175103

Kept my money safe & growing since I was a baby.

FreeOnes · 05-23-2002, 06:18 PM

How do you feel about investing in classical cars?

quiet · 05-23-2002, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by m0rph3us
http://home.ingdirect.com/

You could easily get 100k a year doing nothing.

thanks for the link. yes, i'm hoping for a nice min of 100k a year. hopefully more

and of course, no stress...

AMP and DPlayMax have mail.

FATPad · 05-23-2002, 06:27 PM

What kind of time frame exactly are you talking? Long term means different things to different people.

Evil1 · 05-23-2002, 06:29 PM

Fuck! I wish that was one of my problems

BumpUglyz · 05-23-2002, 06:29 PM

quiet, how old are you?
also when would you be needing access to this money again, after you invest it?
on a scale of 0-5, what would be the MAXIMUM amount of risk you would be willing to take?

Amputate Your Head · 05-23-2002, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Evil1
Fuck! I wish that was one of my problems

you already have enough problems..... stinky.

quiet · 05-23-2002, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FATPad
What kind of time frame exactly are you talking? Long term means different things to different people.

for ever. i'm retiring next year - i want to invest between 1.5 to 2.5 M, and produce the most possible interest SAFELY for the rest of my life. i'm going to keep at least 500K liquid (because who knows what i may do in the future), the rest invested. i already own a home, will own a ski/snowboard condo, 2 cars, and have ZERO debt.

quiet · 05-23-2002, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WarBlade
quiet, how old are you?
also when would you be needing access to this money again, after you invest it?
on a scale of 0-5, what would be the MAXIMUM amount of risk you would be willing to take?

hmm, this sounds like the type of thing i was getting at the bank. like it says under my name, i'm 29. i want very LOW risk. why would i want to risk 1 M +?

FATPad · 05-23-2002, 06:36 PM

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Originally posted by quiet

for ever. i'm retiring next year - i want to invest between 1.5 to 2.5 M, and produce the most possible interest SAFELY for the rest of my life. i'm going to keep at least 500K liquid (because who knows what i may do in the future), the rest invested. i already own a home, will own a ski/snowboard condo, 2 cars, and have ZERO debt.

Just remember to put part of the money in stocks. Even though you're looking for income from all this money, part of it has to be in stocks to keep you permanently ahead of inflation.

Email me if you want. If not, no biggie, I'm sure you'll find someone who knows what they're doing anyways.

fatpad|at|fatpad.com

BJ · 05-23-2002, 06:56 PM

Quiet, Rothchild Securities is a firm in chicago that specializes in large, long term investments. You may want to check them out.

yys · 05-23-2002, 07:17 PM

queit, drop me an icq#70649333. I should be able to get you some names tomorrow from a retired V.P./Head bond trader @Gordon Capital. He's conservative and into the capital preservation portion of his investment life.

check this site out as well https://www.csi.ca/pub/en/fcsi/fcsidir.cgi ; it has lots of people you could interview. I'd also advise taking the CSC course from them so you can better understand the investments being made on your behalf.

quiet · 05-23-2002, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by yys
queit, drop me an icq#70649333. I should be able to get you some names tomorrow from a retired V.P./Head bond trader @Gordon Capital. He's conservative and into the capital preservation portion of his investment life.

check this site out as well https://www.csi.ca/pub/en/fcsi/fcsidir.cgi ; it has lots of people you could interview. I'd also advise taking the CSC course from them so you can better understand the investments being made on your behalf.

thanks for the link - please shoot me an email ultraquiet at mac dot com... also, thanks for the info AMP - lots of reading to do :)

heymatty · 05-23-2002, 07:52 PM

quiet,

at 30 your biggest risk is not taking some risk

inflation is not a bitch today but it can rape a portfolio that is too risk averse in 5 years.

you probably want something like this

10% foreign equity funds
10% US/CAN technology funds
20% north american blue chip managed funds
10% Canadian index funds
20% low risk mutual
20% bonds
10% cash

but tax is another big issue

I used to do this for a livng in London, my own personal recommendation would be get 3 portfolio assesments from accountancy firms if you are low risk.

I can recommend a head partner at Grant Thornton canada if you need.

matty

quiet · 05-23-2002, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by heymatty
would be get 3 portfolio assesments from accountancy firms if you are low risk

i have already talked to more than 3 places.

Quote:

I can recommend a head partner at Grant Thornton canada if you need.

please do ultraquiet at mac dot com

also, do they have a website addy?

heymatty · 05-23-2002, 08:01 PM

http://grantthornton.ca/

TheFLY · 05-23-2002, 08:44 PM

Don't take my advice too seriously -- but don't you want to feel your money with your bare hands...? Don't you want to see the fruits of your work? You invest that money on paper and it just disappears into thin air...

I'd buy a nice chunk of land somewhere and do something amazing with it... Read the book, "The Good Earth" by Pearl Buck -- it's a rags to riches type story but one of the main points is that the land is all important... kindof like the spice in Dune... ;)

Also I heard there are some cool tricky things you can do w/ a non-profit organization... but I haven't really researched this.

quiet · 05-23-2002, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheFLY
Don't take my advice too seriously -- but don't you want to feel your money with your bare hands...? Don't you want to see the fruits of your work? You invest that money on paper and it just disappears into thin air...

i agree with you to an extent. but what it boils down to, is what's important to me. after i'm done i want to:

(a) go back to uni and get my masters in Philosophy.
(b) travel the entire globe. i've done fairly exstensive traveling, but it has gotten harder to do over the past couple of years. when i say travel the globe, i really mean it. it will be a huge priority of mine.
(c) catch up on my reading - i'm like 5 years behind.
(d) snowboard a lot more than i have in recent years.
(e) travel entirely across Canada and The US in my convertible.

most importantly: (f) RELAX

(g) also wouldn't mind meeting a new long term gf (broke up with my last one of 5 years, a couple of months ago) :)

i don't necessarily care about making that much more money once i'm done with the adult biz. i just want to maintain what i have (which is plenty for me), make enough in interest to live comfortably, and have at leat 500K liquid capital - to do something else, when/if i want to...

Amputate Your Head · 05-23-2002, 09:11 PM

during your travels, swing by Maui and let's have a few drinks on the beach.

Daymare · 05-23-2002, 09:31 PM

Quiet, where did you start in the adult biz?

What site(s) do you currently own?

quiet · 05-23-2002, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
during your travels, swing by Maui and let's have a few drinks on the beach. :winkwink:

bro - that would be great. absolutely - damn i love Maui :)

too much editing!

quiet · 05-23-2002, 09:58 PM

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Originally posted by Daymare
Quiet, where did you start in the adult biz?

late 95

What site(s) do you currently own?[/QUOTE]

i don't talk about my sites on this or any other board.

TheFLY · 05-23-2002, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet

(a) go back to uni and get my masters in Philosophy.
(b) travel the entire globe. i've done fairly exstensive traveling, but it has gotten harder to do over the past couple of years. when i say travel the globe, i really mean it. it will be a huge priority of mine.
(c) catch up on my reading - i'm like 5 years behind.
(d) snowboard a lot more than i have in recent years.
(e) travel entirely across Canada and The US in my convertible.

most importantly: (f) RELAX

(g) also wouldn't mind meeting a new long term gf (broke up with my last one of 5 years, a couple of months ago)

Sounds like a good plan to me... the bad thing about ownership is you lose your personal freedom -- the more shit you own the more hassle you have...

I live a simple life -- I live in an all inclusive apartment -- it has really given me peace of mind -- I just charge my CC once and I never have to think about paying phone bills, internet, electric, water, waste disposal, cable, etc. etc... the pool is taken care of, the place is furnished -- so I have time to think about most of the same shit that you probably do -- girls, maybe going back to school, reading, traveling...... fortunately none of this is very expensive ;) also the people you meet in this biz makes it a lot easier to travel since you have connections all over the world...

I may get a degree in Psychology -- I'm just afraid I won't be able to handle the structure of school after being self-employed for so long -- the idea of owning an alarm clock is even more frightening -- but going back to college is probably the easiest way to meet the virgins ;)

Anyway that is my anti-social rant for the day.

Muff · 05-23-2002, 10:04 PM

http://www.sprottassetmanagement.com/

These guys have performed extremely well through the past couple of years.

Search google for them and you'll find a ton of usefull info on them.

quiet · 05-23-2002, 10:08 PM

any of you boring, ugly, 2nd rate Canadians heard of http://dundeewealth.com ?

several people have recommended them, they only deal with accounts over 1 M.

quiet · 05-23-2002, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheFLY

I may get a degree in Psychology -- I'm just afraid I won't be able to handle the structure of school after being self-employed for so long -- the idea of owning an alarm clock is even more frightening

not appealing to myself either ;)

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but going back to college is probably the easiest way to meet the virgins ;)

fringe benefits

yys · 05-23-2002, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
any of you boring, ugly, 2nd rate Canadians heard of http://dundeewealth.com ?

several people have recommended them, they only deal with accounts over 1 M.

I have an old friend who works there but on the trading systems not on the financial side. I have also heard good things about them and if you'd like I can try to get a number of someone who works there for you as well.

05-23-2002, 05:54 PM	#1
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	medium to large-sized long term investments Is there anyone who can recommend a good investment company for long term investments of 1 M plus? i've been concentrating all my time and effort on my online biz for the past 6-7 years, and beyond some small time investing, most of my assets are currently liquid. basically, i'm looking for a place to put 1.5 - 2.5 M away, safely, and collect interest from it, at the best possible rate, with very low risk. i've talked to several banks (who have all tried their best to convince me), and i've come away pretty much unimpressed so far. thanks :) Last edited by quiet; 05-23-2002 at 05:55 PM..

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Nysus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 7,817	quiet, I know there are some very good companies. Most require $250,000 minimum, and if they don't meet 15% or 20% or whatever their goal is, then they don't pay themselves - that's good motivation for them to not fuck around. I really don't remember the firm name, but just look around - banks can never offer you very good rates, unless you go higher up the management chain. Though, you can demand many things from banks if you have that money to put infront of them. Cheers, Matt

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BJ Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: asia Posts: 5,590	Quiet, Rothchild Securities is a firm in chicago that specializes in large, long term investments. You may want to check them out.

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yys Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 1,922	queit, drop me an icq#70649333. I should be able to get you some names tomorrow from a retired V.P./Head bond trader @Gordon Capital. He's conservative and into the capital preservation portion of his investment life. check this site out as well https://www.csi.ca/pub/en/fcsi/fcsidir.cgi ; it has lots of people you could interview. I'd also advise taking the CSC course from them so you can better understand the investments being made on your behalf. Last edited by yys; 05-23-2002 at 07:22 PM..

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heymatty Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Scottsdale :) Posts: 2,188	quiet, at 30 your biggest risk is not taking some risk inflation is not a bitch today but it can rape a portfolio that is too risk averse in 5 years. you probably want something like this 10% foreign equity funds 10% US/CAN technology funds 20% north american blue chip managed funds 10% Canadian index funds 20% low risk mutual 20% bonds 10% cash but tax is another big issue I used to do this for a livng in London, my own personal recommendation would be get 3 portfolio assesments from accountancy firms if you are low risk. I can recommend a head partner at Grant Thornton canada if you need. matty __________________ Cashlantis ~ Black Book Cash

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TheFLY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: http://www.thefly.net/ --- Quit your job and live off steady traffic. Posts: 11,856	Don't take my advice too seriously -- but don't you want to feel your money with your bare hands...? Don't you want to see the fruits of your work? You invest that money on paper and it just disappears into thin air... I'd buy a nice chunk of land somewhere and do something amazing with it... Read the book, "The Good Earth" by Pearl Buck -- it's a rags to riches type story but one of the main points is that the land is all important... kindof like the spice in Dune... ;) Also I heard there are some cool tricky things you can do w/ a non-profit organization... but I haven't really researched this. Last edited by TheFLY; 05-23-2002 at 08:47 PM..

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quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	any of you boring, ugly, 2nd rate Canadians heard of http://dundeewealth.com ? several people have recommended them, they only deal with accounts over 1 M.