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Old 05-23-2006, 09:29 PM   #101
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Old 05-23-2006, 09:31 PM   #102
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What if someone just went in and ripped out an entire members area all their photos and text then put it up on a blog is that legal?
Are you a real person? Sometimes, I feel like your posts should be sponsored by the letter "D" and the number "4" or something.

No one is saying that stealing is good.

I understand that you cry a lot (and would love some stock in the store that sells Kleenex in your town), but this is almost ridiculous.

How can you say that the two are the same? Most of the time, I contact feed owners BEFORE I do the syndication, and they're in love with me for listing their sites. Extra traffic, PR, new visitors they wouldn't have had ...

... and the ones who DON'T want their stuff pulled? I don't pull it. They're small-timers anyway.

I've never seen an adult pound their feet on the floor and let the tears flow like you are in my life!

EDIT: Typo fixed.
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Old 05-23-2006, 09:32 PM   #103
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ya lets not blame big tobacco either for killing millions of people. i mean they only provide the product.

i have never understood why people here praise a program that uses other peoples content in order to increase their sales and SERP results.

especially when 90% of the feeds come from the unknowing
It's all in how you use it. I use places that offer free RSS feeds.
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Old 05-23-2006, 09:33 PM   #104
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Wow! This thread is like a free course in how not to fuck up shit.

Glad I waited til I decided to get AutobloggerPro. Now I know what to do and NOT to do.

I see some of these 'blogs' and they don't look anything like a blog.
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Old 05-23-2006, 09:33 PM   #105
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i have never understood why people here praise a program that uses other peoples content in order to increase their sales and SERP results.
I'm confused: weren't you in one of my threads a month ago, blathering on about that "other" blog product?

"Kettle? Hi, this is pot. You're black!"
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Old 05-23-2006, 09:35 PM   #106
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I see some of these 'blogs' and they don't look anything like a blog.
I agree -- and that's a good thing to shoot for in some cases.
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The internet was not intended for people to break into eachothers servers, but it happens now doesn't it. Hunting rifles are meant to hunt animals, not kill people, but it happens as well. You going to go blame gun shops now as well?
I love to see you defend software that rips out entire members sites and say the same thing. How would you like it if you own a members site and I owned software that will rip it out and build the pages, upload them for FREE that would be ok right? I mean what do you think a lot of these webmasters are doing with this program? You think they are all using it just for their networks? Hell no.

I'm sure he is very well aware of what a lot of people use the software for as in RIPPING ENTIRE BLOGS and cloaking.

But you are right can't blame the guy who wrote it. He is just trying to make his $ not his problem what webmasters do with it.. Bottom line is money who cares right?

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Old 05-23-2006, 09:36 PM   #108
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Wow! This thread is like a free course in how not to fuck up shit.

Glad I waited til I decided to get AutobloggerPro. Now I know what to do and NOT to do.

I see some of these 'blogs' and they don't look anything like a blog.
It's in how you use it. If you pull crap content, you get crap content. Those that know how to use it don't often jump on this board, they are the ones that are running 500+ blogs using ABP with their own content, altering it like i mentioned earlier, and are making a significant income.
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Old 05-23-2006, 09:37 PM   #109
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I love to see you defend software that rips out entire members sites and say the same thing. How would you like it if you own a members site and I owned software that will rip it out and build the pages, upload them for FREE that would be ok right? I mean what do you think a lot of these webmasters are doing with this program? You think they are all using it just for their networks? Hell no.

I'm sure he is very well aware of what a lot of people use the software for as in RIPPING ENTIRE BLOGS and cloaking.

But you are right can't blame the guy who wrote it. He is just trying to make his $ not his problem what webmasters do with it.. Bottom line is money who cares right?

Have a good night boys.
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I'm sure he is very well aware of what a lot of people use the software for as in RIPPING ENTIRE BLOGS and cloaking.
Out of 3,500 licenses, how many are doing this?

Idiot.
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Are you a real person? Sometimes, I feel like your posts should be sponsored by the letter "D" and the number "4" or something.

No one is saying that stealing is good.
They rip out your affiliate codes and put their own in. Tears? You got to be joking..I'm laughing at the losers who do this and what is to become of it all.
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Old 05-23-2006, 09:39 PM   #112
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You're lack of understanding is like a child with down syndrome.
It's really weird -- it's like ... his lips are moving, but ...



Not too much "upstairs" for this guy, I think. And I bet if you saw his site, it'd be NOTHING you'd ever pull in a million years, because it'd suck.
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*sigh* There are obviously two camps here. People that use it responsibly, people that don't. People that like being syndicated, some that don't.

The fact is when used as intended ABP is a tool that does what it's supposed to, and does it well.

If you run a blog, and someone pulls it using ABP contact the site owner and ask that it's removed.

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Old 05-23-2006, 09:41 PM   #114
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They rip out your affiliate codes and put their own in. Tears? You got to be joking..I'm laughing at the losers who do this and what is to become of it all.
Your laughter sounds strangely like crying, if you ask me.

I think the people who do this are scum, too. But you're painting all AutoBlogger Pro users are people who do this, and that's fairly retarded.

I guess I just have to say: cry more, noob!
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Out of 3,500 licenses, how many are doing this?

Idiot.
I don't know you tell me? http://www.google.com/search?q=RSS+s... off&c2coff=1
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Maybe this is a good story for Wired News.
WIRED NEWS, MAY 23rd, 2006

People are stealing shit from the blogs of a man who runs them from his mother's basement!

And now, for commentary on this sad issue, we turn to some idiot with 100 posts on GFY.

Wired News: Some Idiot, we hear you're pretty irate here!

Some Idiot: I'm crying, too. Don't forget crying.

WN: What are you so upset over?

SI: Well, it's hard for people to tell. I just keep ranting and raving, and making almost no sense.

WN: And why would a publication like ours talk to a complete nobody like you?

SI: They wouldn't.

WN: I guess we're done here, then! Have my hanky, it looks like you'll need it.
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Old 05-23-2006, 09:44 PM   #117
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I'm confused: weren't you in one of my threads a month ago, blathering on about that "other" blog product?

"Kettle? Hi, this is pot. You're black!"
Nope. You are confused. In that thread I simply was commenting on your obvious bias to Autoblogger Pro to which at the time you responded with " I have no affiliation, I don't even make money from referrals " or something to that effect. Then 2 weeks later that changed...

but I'm not here to take sides.

Autoblogger Pro if used in the way you described can be a good thing for both author and 3rd party publishers.

But from what I hear Autoblogger Pro makes it possible for people to abuse it.
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I almost fell off of my chair laughing.

You know that Google excluded the term "RSS" from that, right? And it just searched "stealing?"

Wow, welcome to the Intarweb! If you keep learning how to use it, you might even be able to search someday soon!

And 10,900,000 AutoBlogger Pro users? Wow! Chio is going on vacation over that one, I bet.
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In that thread I simply was commenting on your obvious bias to Autoblogger Pro to which at the time you responded with " I have no affiliation, I don't even make money from referrals " or something to that effect.
Post it.
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People that like being syndicated, some that don't.
I don't think many here mind being syndicated, as long as they are given attribution and their ref links aren't touched
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I don't think many here mind being syndicated, as long as they are given attribution and their ref links aren't touched
Agreed. I don't think anyone here is sticking up for thieves.
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I don't think many here mind being syndicated, as long as they are given attribution and their ref links aren't touched
Agreed. Syndication can help everyone, you can't help the bad seeds.
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I almost fell off of my chair laughing.

You know that Google excluded the term "RSS" from that, right? And it just searched "stealing?"
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No. I posted to show how many stories have been written about RSS STEALING. I'm sure not every single LINK is about that.

I'm not going to link to every damn story about RSS stealing if you can't find them then you are in fact the dumb ass. CLOSE your eyes to the fact that many webmasters are abusing "software" like this.
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Nah, too tired. You post it.
Eh, if you're too lazy, I'll accept that.

There might have been a time I didn't have ABP in my sig -- I don't remember. I already made a sale off of THIS thread, and off of the last one, I was rolling in the dough. I love the bumps, as we discussed before.
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No. I posted to show how many stories have been written about RSS STEALING. I'm sure not every single LINK is about that.
Not quite.

The first link, in fact, only references "RSS" in the site navigation.

When you learn how to use the Intarweb, come on back.
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I'm not going to link to every damn story about RSS stealing if you can't find them then you are in fact the dumb ass. CLOSE your eyes to the fact that many webmasters are abusing "software" like this.
I think the "dumb ass" is the guy who #1 can't use the intarweb, and #2 says that the 99% of users that use a piece of software for legitimate purposes are all "thieves" because someone once took something from his tiny little site.

But to each his own, I guess.

Thieves suck. I don't see anyone saying otherwise.
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*sigh* There are obviously two camps here. People that use it responsibly, people that don't. People that like being syndicated, some that don't.

The fact is when used as intended ABP is a tool that does what it's supposed to, and does it well.

If you run a blog, and someone pulls it using ABP contact the site owner and ask that it's removed.

End of story.
I agree. If the site owner would have contacted me I would have let him use my feeds as long as they didnt change out the sponsor urls. Hell as long as they leave the posts in tact, I am more than willing to let others use the posts. But once you change it and take credit for yourself while they hotlink the images from the original blog. The blog owner deserves what he gets.

I like ABP and the guys behind it. This is nothing against them or their software.
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Not quite.

The first link, in fact, only references "RSS" in the site navigation.

When you learn how to use the Intarweb, come on back.
I think you need to learn how to use the Internet. If you can't see from the second link and on then maybe a new pair of glasses will help you?


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I agree. If the site owner would have contacted me I would have let him use my feeds as long as they didnt change out the sponsor urls. Hell as long as they leave the posts in tact, I am more than willing to let others use the posts. But once you change it and take credit for yourself while they hotlink the images from the original blog. The blog owner deserves what he gets.

I like ABP and the guys behind it. This is nothing against them or their software.
Absolutely. I agree to let ANYONE use my original content (and I write a shitload of it -- I wrote for Xbiz.com, Xbiz World, and a bunch of others) as long as they give a linkback. I'd be a moron not too. But to each his own.

Any content thieves out there should get what's coming to them -- I agree.
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Learn to use the Intarweb! There's no use in continuing to cry -- you were obviously wrong, and it's already been said as much by anyone with half a brain -- except to keep bumping this post, which has already made a sale.
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hey, you stole the reference i already used about gun shops.. i am goin gto have to send you a c & d... just kidding...
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YARGH! You're lucky he didn't relink your text too.
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YARGH! You're lucky he didn't relink your text too.
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Old 05-23-2006, 10:15 PM   #138
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wow thanks lot thats pretty easy to install how can i know if it works?
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Old 05-23-2006, 10:17 PM   #139
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hey, you stole the reference i already used about gun shops.. i am goin gto have to send you a c & d... just kidding...
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Old 05-23-2006, 10:28 PM   #140
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Old 05-23-2006, 10:32 PM   #141
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congrats I have 23 licenese left I need to get started on
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Old 05-23-2006, 10:33 PM   #142
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congrats I have 23 licenese left I need to get started on
Hey buddy. Been a while since we talked. Hit me up if you want/need any help with those bad boys. I owe you one for the referral to that designer -- he was awesome.
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Old 05-23-2006, 10:39 PM   #143
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Congrats dude ;)
Nice looking blog!
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anyone selling ABP 25 domain licenses for cheapo?
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Old 05-23-2006, 10:47 PM   #145
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anyone selling ABP 25 domain licenses for cheapo?
Yeah -- Relink Software. $299. That's what .. $12/site?

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Old 05-23-2006, 10:53 PM   #146
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btw just bought ABP and gonna give it a try.
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btw just bought ABP and gonna give it a try.


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what's funny is that I bet half of the people saying "THAT'S WRONG OMFG HANG HIM!!!" are going to buy ABP and rip some shit.
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what's funny is that I bet half of the people saying "THAT'S WRONG OMFG HANG HIM!!!" are going to buy ABP and rip some shit.

hahaha yeah.. if i buy this script i wont do that though
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what's funny is that I bet half of the people saying "THAT'S WRONG OMFG HANG HIM!!!" are going to buy ABP and rip some shit.
Hopefully, no one is planning on stealing using AutoBlogger Pro -- I am sure Chio doesn't condone that.

P.S.: He's gay. SO gay.
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