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Things that piss me off about big screen TV's
So we spent all this money on the big screen TV (62") and it's a "widescreen"
But when we play DVD's or watch TV shows that are presented in "widescreen format" we have more black space at the top and bottom of the screen than we do on the old square TV screen. What's up with that? Why even bother having a "widescreen" if it's not the right aspect ratio for widescreen programming? Something else that pisses me off is that I think the picture quality is much better on my 36" CRT screen in my bedroom than it is on the big TV. I see big differences in color brilliance and picture sharpness when I walk from one room to the other and the same program is on both TV's. Do you think this is because regular programming isn't meant to be displayed on a screen that large and when the TV blows it up you lose quality? (Kind of like enlarging an image in photoshop) I like having the big screen and all but I feel like I've been bamboozled. All of this new picture technology and the picture is worse than what's on the old tube. </rant> |
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![]() ![]() ![]() Hi def on the big screen would probably look pretty good on the 62 inch. *grin* |
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yes regular programming dosnt come out clear on bigger tv like that////they are meant for the majority of the publics viewing, when you see a show start and it says viewed in hi-def, you should see and enjoy comfortably....some stations use it by default, some havent gotten there yet.....the extra black space on your already wide screen is bullshit, either check the setting on the actual dvd....or maybe som programming within your tv.....might be a solution, if not, exchange
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Did you switch the TV to zoom mode? You're doing something wrong, mine works fine. You also have to realize that not every movie is shot in 16:9 so with many movies you will still see a bit of black but it shouldn't be a big deal because it will look much better anyway.
What TV did you buy? I researched mine for 3 months and found an awesome one. I'm getting a 37" for my bedroom soon and the one I'm looking at is great.
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Sure we could film it and then watch it on the big screen TV...but the aspect ratio and picture quality will be fucked up....LOL |
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Lenny .... I totally agree. I have a 65" Toshiba it I just don't understand why there is so much wasted space on the top and buttom. It makes no sense.
As for quality, DLP is the shit. I'm about to go and get a new DLP 65" from Costco. Only 3K and the picture quality is dope. Once you hook up a HD Tevo receiver, watch some of the HD chanels. They look amazing.
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Yeah, the hardest part is figuring out the proper settings for your needs |
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When watching a widescreen DVD or whatever, if I leave the picture on "standard" mode I get alot of black space above and below the picture. The best setting is "expand" which fills up alot of the screen....basically leaves about the same amount of black space as on a regular square TV. All of the other settings like zoom, stretch, and stretch plus give me a smaller picture than the expand setting. |
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I got a 62" pioneer, but I think its time for a new tv soon. at night time when I mute the sound I can hear the tv making noise depending on how much brightness is displayed, I don't think that is suppose to be happening.
A reason I got rid of the projector that I had, was the damn thing was loud and blew off too much heat, and at the time I had a 1 bedroom apt. hehe. |
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The standard mode will work just like a regular TV. Black bars on the side to make up the difference. When watching wide screen movies it will also obviously give bars at the top. When watching widescreen movies or shows, the best mode is zoom. It zooms in to the main core of the viewing screen, which with widescreen movies works perfectly. Put in a widescreen movie and play with the different modes. You'll find the right on. Or go see the guys at Best Buy or any electronics store, point them to the TV you have and ask them how to get widescreen to look properly.
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I have a "narrow" mode that puts black bars on the sides....but those take up like half the screen. I tried "zoom"...it gave me a smaller picture than "expand" did.....and of course like I was saying before, if the TV is widescreen then a widescreen movie should fit the screen, I shouldn't have black bars. There might not be anything I can do about it, but it just doesn't make sense. If widescreen is the wave of the future then make the high end TV screens the right aspect ratio. Doesn't seem that complicated. |
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Yes, the TV is widescreen and yes it should work fine, but you have to put it in the right mode! Reason being: various movies and TVs all use different formats, if your TV was ONLY set for widescreen then everything non-widescreen wouldn't look right.
So either your TV really sucks or you're just doing something wrong, hehe.
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Well this one was the demo model at Best Buy. I got a screaming deal on it because it was the last one of a discontinued line. Maybe they had the settings changed to match whatever programming they play in the stores and I need to put the default settings back in. I've got the 10lb dictionary size owners manual around here somewhere. |
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Cripes, whatever happened to the good old days when your tv had an "on" button and a volume control, and you didn't have to fuck with a 1000 buttons and settings and zoom and expand and stretch etc? :D
Nowadays you need to pass a 2-week university course just to work the damn things.
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I have a widescreen TV and I was trying to watch the eurovision tonight but I couldn't see 1/2 of the countries on the left hand side of the screen... Rubbish... And I did try every setting, none worked
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i bought a Toshibe DLP 52" about a year ago, and when i popped in my first "widescreen" movie, was wondering the same things as you about the blackbars.. here is what i have learned over the year about widescreen TVs:
1) "widescreen" is in a 16:9 format, which does not fill your whole screen.. there will be black bars... some widescreen formats have even bigger blackbards, it just depends on how the director shot the film. what you should look for is movies that have been adjusted to fit the entire screen (without any zoom functions set). this is call anamorphic (it will say that on the back of the DVD). Some DVD's come out in the theater presentation of "widescreen", while other DVD's will come out in anamorphic (pan/scan to fit). I like the anamorphic versions because it does make the picture look better. You might lose a little bit of detail that the widescreen captured.. but it really is insignificant.. but you do see more in widescreen format than in the 4:3 pan/scan formatting (ie. full screen). 2) HDTV fills the whole screen, and looks absolutely amazing.. the extra $5 or $10 a month to get the few HD channels there is, is really worth it.. especially when combined with a HD DVR. Watching "normal" broadcasts at 4:3 looks awe when you make it stretch, and the pciture quality is worse than on my 27" Sony. The picture tubes make up for the poorer quality signals of cable. The larger screen format exaggerates it and i refuse to watch any TV that isn't in HD anymore, or I go into the bedroom to watch the 27". Fight the videophiles!
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