For the idiots out there : Firefox is nowhere close to 25 % of the marketshare - GoFuckYourself.com

Doctor Dre · 05-17-2006, 08:33 PM

Ok you seen it somewhere ... and you are quoting an url you didn't bother reading... just read up at the bottom of the table :
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp

Quote:

Why so high Firefox figures?

W3Schools is a website for people with an interest for web technologies. These people are more interested in using alternative browsers than the average user. The average user tends to use Internet Explorer, since it comes preinstalled with Windows. Most do not seek out other browsers.

These facts indicate that the browser figures below are not 100% realistic. Other web sites have statistics showing that Internet Explorer is used by at least 80% of the users.

Anyway, our data, collected over a five year period, clearly shows the long and medium-term trends.

For thoses who have websites out there, most server side stats programs and even external counters have browser stats. You might wanna look at them and realise (unless you have neard or webmaster traffic) that mozilla (firefox incl) will be arround 3-10 %.

Sadly, there aren't 25 % of internet savy people out there... if there would be, ransomware programs wouldn't exist.

Libertine · 05-17-2006, 08:35 PM

15% in western europe, 5-10% in northern america.

NoWhErE · 05-17-2006, 08:37 PM

I get about 50k hits per day to my galleries and 15% of the surfers use Firefox.

Thats what my stats tell me.

Martin3 · 05-17-2006, 08:57 PM

70-75% IE
15-20% Firefox
Opera, Safari, Netscape the next 3 with about 2-4% each

Average on all my sites

Hotrocket · 05-17-2006, 08:58 PM

My stats show about the same... 14%

JD · 05-17-2006, 09:00 PM

like i said in the thread I posted that in:

Quote:

Originally Posted by me

my stats are showing that 600K of this months traffic to my site is 22.2 % FF and 67.9 % IE it's an adult site the other %'s are opera/safari/etc

KrisKross · 05-17-2006, 09:03 PM

The exact percentage is going to vary from one site to another. Fact of the matter remains, there are a considerable amount of surfers using Firefox nowadays.

Even if it's only 5% and you're sending out 10K hits a day, that's 500 of your hits.

Tempest · 05-17-2006, 09:05 PM

18% on one site..
On another, the stats lump FF in with netscape and that stat is at 30%

dial · 05-17-2006, 09:22 PM

um, i don't know where you get your info from, but here is what my stats show for the past day

1 Microsoft Internet Explorer 6.0
18476
70.93%
2 Mozilla (Firefox)
4966
19.06%
3 Mozilla (Safari)
756
2.90%
4 Mozilla
507
1.95%
5 Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.0
347
1.33%
6 Microsoft Internet Explorer 7.0
167
0.64%
7 Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.5
162
0.62%
8 Mozilla 1.4
142
0.55%
9 Avant Browser (Internet Explorer)
92
0.35%
10 Opera 7
90
0.35%
11 Mozilla 1.0
69
0.26%
12 Netscape
61
0.23%
13 Opera 8
57
0.22%
14 Microsoft Internet Explorer 4.0
38
0.15%
15 Konqueror
32
0.12%
16 MyIE2 (Internet Explorer)
30
0.12%
17 WebTV
10
0.04%
18 Mozilla 1.6
9
0.03%
19 Netscape 6
7
0.03%
20 Opera 6
6
0.02%
21 Mozilla 1.5
5
0.02%
22 Mozilla (Firebird)
5
0.02%
23 Offline Explorer
4
0.02%
24 Opera 5
2
0.01%
25 WebCopier
2
0.01%
26 Mozilla 1.3
2
0.01%
27 Mozilla 1.2
2
0.01%
28 WebZIP
1
0.00%
29 Teleport Pro
1
0.00%
30 Microsoft Internet Explorer 3.0
1
0.00%

madawgz · 05-17-2006, 09:32 PM

for my stats, around 15% use mozilla

Pornwolf · 05-17-2006, 09:43 PM

I saw Engadget's stats and it had around 37% of it's users using Firefox. It also had a much higher Mac/Safari user number as well.

dial · 05-17-2006, 09:56 PM

you also have to take into account when saying shit like this....does the site in question tell people to switcj to firefox? because a lot of idiots put those "get firefox" links up on their site, and of course they are going to have more users using firefox

TheJimmy · 05-17-2006, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dial

you also have to take into account when saying shit like this....does the site in question tell people to switcj to firefox? because a lot of idiots put those "get firefox" links up on their site, and of course they are going to have more users using firefox

variables, what are variables...are you kidding me, you mean you have to consider there might be other issues in looking at stats like these, there is no one standard answer for everything?

Matt 26z · 05-17-2006, 10:29 PM

Anyone with high FF numbers on an adult site has a large amount of non-American traffic. If the numbers are really high, you've probably got a lot of east Europe and beyond traffic.

100% American traffic will report low FF usage.

Abyss_Vee · 05-17-2006, 10:33 PM

its been 25% all year

http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp

Pete-KT · 05-17-2006, 10:34 PM

very nice

dial · 05-17-2006, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheJimmy

variables, what are variables...are you kidding me, you mean you have to consider there might be other issues in looking at stats like these, there is no one standard answer for everything?

hahaha..no shit man

sometimes the intelligence level of GFY is insanely low, I should learn to dumb down my posts more

Matt_WildCash · 05-17-2006, 11:38 PM

Dang, sad people are starting to use Firefox, so much easier to build websites for just a single browser. Admitingly Firefox is very nice and I use it myself for some of its advanced features but building websites for 2 browsers is just more work.

Tempest · 05-18-2006, 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt_WildCash

Dang, sad people are starting to use Firefox, so much easier to build websites for just a single browser. Admitingly Firefox is very nice and I use it myself for some of its advanced features but building websites for 2 browsers is just more work.

I do 3... IE, firefox and Opera.. I also check netscape sometimes.. it becomes second nature after awhile as there's just a few differences and once you get those down, checking your sites in the browsers just takes a few seconds.

SomeCreep · 05-18-2006, 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt_WildCash

Dang, sad people are starting to use Firefox, so much easier to build websites for just a single browser. Admitingly Firefox is very nice and I use it myself for some of its advanced features but building websites for 2 browsers is just more work.

huh? Professional webmasters always build pages so that they load correctly in both firefox and IE. I've been doing that since netscape 3.0 and IE 4.

darnit · 05-18-2006, 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeCreep

huh? Professional webmasters always build pages so that they load correctly in both firefox and IE. I've been doing that since netscape 3.0 and IE 4.

Agreed with HTML however trying to get CSS to play nice with both is tough.

Jakke PNG · 05-18-2006, 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darnit

Agreed with HTML however trying to get CSS to play nice with both is tough.

Not if you use 'real' css, and not that fancy stuff IE calls css.

KRL · 05-18-2006, 01:47 AM

Here's the stats on one of my mainstream music sites:

MS Internet Explorer 462481 48.6 %
Firefox 380258 39.9 %
Safari 73903 7.7 %

This is the first time I've seen IE dip below 50%. Firefox is at 40% consistently.

So you're way off according to my observations Dre.

Get Firefox now!

http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/

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JD · 05-18-2006, 07:36 AM

so...um....Dre who looks stupid now?

dial · 05-18-2006, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt_WildCash

Dang, sad people are starting to use Firefox, so much easier to build websites for just a single browser. Admitingly Firefox is very nice and I use it myself for some of its advanced features but building websites for 2 browsers is just more work.

um...no offense dude, but I have been designing sites since I was 18, 13 years now...and there was NEVER a time when I didn't check a design in multiple browsers

Netscape, Opera, IE.....and now firefox

just the way of the game

seeric · 05-18-2006, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

Ok you seen it somewhere ... and you are quoting an url you didn't bother reading... just read up at the bottom of the table :
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp

For thoses who have websites out there, most server side stats programs and even external counters have browser stats. You might wanna look at them and realise (unless you have neard or webmaster traffic) that mozilla (firefox incl) will be arround 3-10 %.

Sadly, there aren't 25 % of internet savy people out there... if there would be, ransomware programs wouldn't exist.

i was gonna say maybe 7- 9%

nico-t · 05-18-2006, 08:48 AM

the point was in that thread that they redirect your traffic.. whether its 25% or 14% (my sites), that still doesnt make it right.

Barefootsies · 05-18-2006, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt_WildCash

Dang, sad people are starting to use Firefox, so much easier to build websites for just a single browser. Admitingly Firefox is very nice and I use it myself for some of its advanced features but building websites for 2 browsers is just more work.

Yeah it is pal, but nature of this business. You have to consider other browsers now a day, and that's the fact of the matter.

Barefootsies · 05-18-2006, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeCreep

huh? Professional webmasters always build pages so that they load correctly in both firefox and IE. I've been doing that since netscape 3.0 and IE 4.

True dat

05-17-2006, 08:35 PM	#2
Libertine sex dwarf Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 17,860	15% in western europe, 5-10% in northern america. __________________ /(bb\|[^b]{2})/

05-17-2006, 08:37 PM	#3
NoWhErE Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 10,388	I get about 50k hits per day to my galleries and 15% of the surfers use Firefox. Thats what my stats tell me. __________________ skype: lordofthecameltoe

05-17-2006, 08:57 PM	#4
Martin3 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Houston Posts: 1,529	70-75% IE 15-20% Firefox Opera, Safari, Netscape the next 3 with about 2-4% each Average on all my sites __________________ 264-543-302

05-17-2006, 09:03 PM	#7
KrisKross Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 5,024	The exact percentage is going to vary from one site to another. Fact of the matter remains, there are a considerable amount of surfers using Firefox nowadays. Even if it's only 5% and you're sending out 10K hits a day, that's 500 of your hits. __________________

05-17-2006, 09:22 PM	#9
dial Confirmed User Join Date: May 2006 Location: wherever you aren't Posts: 1,225	um, i don't know where you get your info from, but here is what my stats show for the past day 1 Microsoft Internet Explorer 6.0 18476 70.93% 2 Mozilla (Firefox) 4966 19.06% 3 Mozilla (Safari) 756 2.90% 4 Mozilla 507 1.95% 5 Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.0 347 1.33% 6 Microsoft Internet Explorer 7.0 167 0.64% 7 Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.5 162 0.62% 8 Mozilla 1.4 142 0.55% 9 Avant Browser (Internet Explorer) 92 0.35% 10 Opera 7 90 0.35% 11 Mozilla 1.0 69 0.26% 12 Netscape 61 0.23% 13 Opera 8 57 0.22% 14 Microsoft Internet Explorer 4.0 38 0.15% 15 Konqueror 32 0.12% 16 MyIE2 (Internet Explorer) 30 0.12% 17 WebTV 10 0.04% 18 Mozilla 1.6 9 0.03% 19 Netscape 6 7 0.03% 20 Opera 6 6 0.02% 21 Mozilla 1.5 5 0.02% 22 Mozilla (Firebird) 5 0.02% 23 Offline Explorer 4 0.02% 24 Opera 5 2 0.01% 25 WebCopier 2 0.01% 26 Mozilla 1.3 2 0.01% 27 Mozilla 1.2 2 0.01% 28 WebZIP 1 0.00% 29 Teleport Pro 1 0.00% 30 Microsoft Internet Explorer 3.0 1 0.00% __________________ boom chicka wah wah

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Hotrocket Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,327	My stats show about the same... 14%

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Tempest Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Location: West Coast, Canada. Posts: 10,217	18% on one site.. On another, the stats lump FF in with netscape and that stat is at 30%

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madawgz 8.8.8.8 Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Noordermarkt Posts: 30,509	for my stats, around 15% use mozilla __________________ TAEMDLRMSKRJIXMRLSMRJ.

05-17-2006, 09:43 PM	#11
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	I saw Engadget's stats and it had around 37% of it's users using Firefox. It also had a much higher Mac/Safari user number as well. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

05-17-2006, 09:56 PM	#12
dial Confirmed User Join Date: May 2006 Location: wherever you aren't Posts: 1,225	you also have to take into account when saying shit like this....does the site in question tell people to switcj to firefox? because a lot of idiots put those "get firefox" links up on their site, and of course they are going to have more users using firefox __________________ boom chicka wah wah

05-17-2006, 10:29 PM	#14
Matt 26z So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ¤ª"˜¨๑۩۞۩๑¨˜"ª¤ Posts: 18,481	Anyone with high FF numbers on an adult site has a large amount of non-American traffic. If the numbers are really high, you've probably got a lot of east Europe and beyond traffic. 100% American traffic will report low FF usage.

05-17-2006, 10:33 PM	#15
Abyss_Vee Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,208	its been 25% all year http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp

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Pete-KT Workin With The Devil Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: West Bloomfield, MI Posts: 51,532	very nice

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Matt_WildCash Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,699	Dang, sad people are starting to use Firefox, so much easier to build websites for just a single browser. Admitingly Firefox is very nice and I use it myself for some of its advanced features but building websites for 2 browsers is just more work. __________________ Try the New XMovies.com and make more $$$ with your Traffic

05-18-2006, 01:47 AM	#23
KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	Here's the stats on one of my mainstream music sites: MS Internet Explorer 462481 48.6 % Firefox 380258 39.9 % Safari 73903 7.7 % This is the first time I've seen IE dip below 50%. Firefox is at 40% consistently. So you're way off according to my observations Dre. Get Firefox now! http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ Also for a great free full feature alternative to MS Office, get Sun Microsystems Open Office 2.02! http://ww.OpenOffice.org __________________ If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor from the leaders in the field at iWebmasters.com TO LOWER YOUR COSTS AND INCREASE YOUR PRODUCTION! * * * * * * * * * * * * Domains Adult News KRL's Newsletter Biz Tips Just Listed Domains

05-18-2006, 07:36 AM	#24
JD Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 22,651	so...um....Dre who looks stupid now?

05-18-2006, 08:48 AM	#27
nico-t emperor of my world Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: nethalands Posts: 29,903	the point was in that thread that they redirect your traffic.. whether its 25% or 14% (my sites), that still doesnt make it right.