For the idiots out there : Firefox is nowhere close to 25 % of the marketshare

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  • Doctor Dre
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jan 2001
    • 51692

    #1

    For the idiots out there : Firefox is nowhere close to 25 % of the marketshare

    Ok you seen it somewhere ... and you are quoting an url you didn't bother reading... just read up at the bottom of the table :
    http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
    Why so high Firefox figures?

    W3Schools is a website for people with an interest for web technologies. These people are more interested in using alternative browsers than the average user. The average user tends to use Internet Explorer, since it comes preinstalled with Windows. Most do not seek out other browsers.

    These facts indicate that the browser figures below are not 100% realistic. Other web sites have statistics showing that Internet Explorer is used by at least 80% of the users.

    Anyway, our data, collected over a five year period, clearly shows the long and medium-term trends.
    For thoses who have websites out there, most server side stats programs and even external counters have browser stats. You might wanna look at them and realise (unless you have neard or webmaster traffic) that mozilla (firefox incl) will be arround 3-10 %.

    Sadly, there aren't 25 % of internet savy people out there... if there would be, ransomware programs wouldn't exist.
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  • Libertine
    sex dwarf
    • May 2002
    • 17860

    #2
    15% in western europe, 5-10% in northern america.
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    • NoWhErE
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Sep 2005
      • 10583

      #3
      I get about 50k hits per day to my galleries and 15% of the surfers use Firefox.

      Thats what my stats tell me.
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      • Martin3
        Confirmed User
        • Oct 2005
        • 1529

        #4
        70-75% IE
        15-20% Firefox
        Opera, Safari, Netscape the next 3 with about 2-4% each

        Average on all my sites
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        • Hotrocket
          Confirmed User
          • May 2004
          • 1327

          #5
          My stats show about the same... 14%

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          • JD
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Sep 2003
            • 22651

            #6
            like i said in the thread I posted that in:

            Originally posted by me
            my stats are showing that 600K of this months traffic to my site is 22.2 % FF and 67.9 % IE it's an adult site the other %'s are opera/safari/etc

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            • KrisKross
              Confirmed User
              • Jan 2006
              • 5025

              #7
              The exact percentage is going to vary from one site to another. Fact of the matter remains, there are a considerable amount of surfers using Firefox nowadays.

              Even if it's only 5% and you're sending out 10K hits a day, that's 500 of your hits.

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              • Tempest
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • May 2004
                • 10217

                #8
                18% on one site..
                On another, the stats lump FF in with netscape and that stat is at 30%

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                • dial
                  Confirmed User
                  • May 2006
                  • 1225

                  #9
                  um, i don't know where you get your info from, but here is what my stats show for the past day

                  1 Microsoft Internet Explorer 6.0
                  18476
                  70.93%
                  2 Mozilla (Firefox)
                  4966
                  19.06%
                  3 Mozilla (Safari)
                  756
                  2.90%
                  4 Mozilla
                  507
                  1.95%
                  5 Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.0
                  347
                  1.33%
                  6 Microsoft Internet Explorer 7.0
                  167
                  0.64%
                  7 Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.5
                  162
                  0.62%
                  8 Mozilla 1.4
                  142
                  0.55%
                  9 Avant Browser (Internet Explorer)
                  92
                  0.35%
                  10 Opera 7
                  90
                  0.35%
                  11 Mozilla 1.0
                  69
                  0.26%
                  12 Netscape
                  61
                  0.23%
                  13 Opera 8
                  57
                  0.22%
                  14 Microsoft Internet Explorer 4.0
                  38
                  0.15%
                  15 Konqueror
                  32
                  0.12%
                  16 MyIE2 (Internet Explorer)
                  30
                  0.12%
                  17 WebTV
                  10
                  0.04%
                  18 Mozilla 1.6
                  9
                  0.03%
                  19 Netscape 6
                  7
                  0.03%
                  20 Opera 6
                  6
                  0.02%
                  21 Mozilla 1.5
                  5
                  0.02%
                  22 Mozilla (Firebird)
                  5
                  0.02%
                  23 Offline Explorer
                  4
                  0.02%
                  24 Opera 5
                  2
                  0.01%
                  25 WebCopier
                  2
                  0.01%
                  26 Mozilla 1.3
                  2
                  0.01%
                  27 Mozilla 1.2
                  2
                  0.01%
                  28 WebZIP
                  1
                  0.00%
                  29 Teleport Pro
                  1
                  0.00%
                  30 Microsoft Internet Explorer 3.0
                  1
                  0.00%
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                  • madawgz
                    8.8.8.8
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 30509

                    #10
                    for my stats, around 15% use mozilla
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                    • Pornwolf
                      Drunk and Unruly
                      • Jan 2002
                      • 22712

                      #11
                      I saw Engadget's stats and it had around 37% of it's users using Firefox. It also had a much higher Mac/Safari user number as well.
                      I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...

                      Webair, bitches.

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                      • dial
                        Confirmed User
                        • May 2006
                        • 1225

                        #12
                        you also have to take into account when saying shit like this....does the site in question tell people to switcj to firefox? because a lot of idiots put those "get firefox" links up on their site, and of course they are going to have more users using firefox
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                        • TheJimmy
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                          • Jan 2001
                          • 10747

                          #13
                          Originally posted by dial
                          you also have to take into account when saying shit like this....does the site in question tell people to switcj to firefox? because a lot of idiots put those "get firefox" links up on their site, and of course they are going to have more users using firefox
                          variables, what are variables...are you kidding me, you mean you have to consider there might be other issues in looking at stats like these, there is no one standard answer for everything?


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                          • Matt 26z
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Apr 2002
                            • 18481

                            #14
                            Anyone with high FF numbers on an adult site has a large amount of non-American traffic. If the numbers are really high, you've probably got a lot of east Europe and beyond traffic.

                            100% American traffic will report low FF usage.

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                            • Abyss_Vee
                              Confirmed User
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 5208

                              #15
                              its been 25% all year

                              http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp

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                              • Pete-KT
                                Workin With The Devil
                                • Oct 2004
                                • 51532

                                #16
                                very nice

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                                • dial
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • May 2006
                                  • 1225

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by TheJimmy
                                  variables, what are variables...are you kidding me, you mean you have to consider there might be other issues in looking at stats like these, there is no one standard answer for everything?


                                  hahaha..no shit man

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                                  • Matt_WildCash
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jan 2003
                                    • 1699

                                    #18
                                    Dang, sad people are starting to use Firefox, so much easier to build websites for just a single browser. Admitingly Firefox is very nice and I use it myself for some of its advanced features but building websites for 2 browsers is just more work.

                                    Try the New XMovies.com and make more $$$ with your Traffic

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                                    • Tempest
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • May 2004
                                      • 10217

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Matt_WildCash
                                      Dang, sad people are starting to use Firefox, so much easier to build websites for just a single browser. Admitingly Firefox is very nice and I use it myself for some of its advanced features but building websites for 2 browsers is just more work.
                                      I do 3... IE, firefox and Opera.. I also check netscape sometimes.. it becomes second nature after awhile as there's just a few differences and once you get those down, checking your sites in the browsers just takes a few seconds.

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                                      • SomeCreep
                                        :glugglug
                                        • Mar 2003
                                        • 26118

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Matt_WildCash
                                        Dang, sad people are starting to use Firefox, so much easier to build websites for just a single browser. Admitingly Firefox is very nice and I use it myself for some of its advanced features but building websites for 2 browsers is just more work.
                                        huh? Professional webmasters always build pages so that they load correctly in both firefox and IE. I've been doing that since netscape 3.0 and IE 4.

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                                        • darnit
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jul 2001
                                          • 2439

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by SomeCreep
                                          huh? Professional webmasters always build pages so that they load correctly in both firefox and IE. I've been doing that since netscape 3.0 and IE 4.
                                          Agreed with HTML however trying to get CSS to play nice with both is tough.

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                                          • Jakke PNG
                                            ex-TeenGodFather
                                            • Nov 2001
                                            • 20306

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by darnit
                                            Agreed with HTML however trying to get CSS to play nice with both is tough.
                                            Not if you use 'real' css, and not that fancy stuff IE calls css.
                                            ..and I'm off.

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                                            • KRL
                                              Entrepreneur
                                              • Oct 2002
                                              • 31429

                                              #23
                                              Here's the stats on one of my mainstream music sites:

                                              MS Internet Explorer 462481 48.6 %
                                              Firefox 380258 39.9 %
                                              Safari 73903 7.7 %

                                              This is the first time I've seen IE dip below 50%. Firefox is at 40% consistently.

                                              So you're way off according to my observations Dre.

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                                              • JD
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Sep 2003
                                                • 22651

                                                #24
                                                so...um....Dre who looks stupid now?

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                                                • dial
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • May 2006
                                                  • 1225

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Matt_WildCash
                                                  Dang, sad people are starting to use Firefox, so much easier to build websites for just a single browser. Admitingly Firefox is very nice and I use it myself for some of its advanced features but building websites for 2 browsers is just more work.
                                                  um...no offense dude, but I have been designing sites since I was 18, 13 years now...and there was NEVER a time when I didn't check a design in multiple browsers

                                                  Netscape, Opera, IE.....and now firefox

                                                  just the way of the game
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                                                  • seeric
                                                    ..........
                                                    • Aug 2004
                                                    • 41917

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Doctor Dre
                                                    Ok you seen it somewhere ... and you are quoting an url you didn't bother reading... just read up at the bottom of the table :
                                                    http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp


                                                    For thoses who have websites out there, most server side stats programs and even external counters have browser stats. You might wanna look at them and realise (unless you have neard or webmaster traffic) that mozilla (firefox incl) will be arround 3-10 %.

                                                    Sadly, there aren't 25 % of internet savy people out there... if there would be, ransomware programs wouldn't exist.
                                                    i was gonna say maybe 7- 9%

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                                                    • nico-t
                                                      emperor of my world
                                                      • Aug 2004
                                                      • 29901

                                                      #27
                                                      the point was in that thread that they redirect your traffic.. whether its 25% or 14% (my sites), that still doesnt make it right.

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                                                      • Barefootsies
                                                        Choice is an Illusion
                                                        • Feb 2005
                                                        • 42635

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Matt_WildCash
                                                        Dang, sad people are starting to use Firefox, so much easier to build websites for just a single browser. Admitingly Firefox is very nice and I use it myself for some of its advanced features but building websites for 2 browsers is just more work.
                                                        Yeah it is pal, but nature of this business. You have to consider other browsers now a day, and that's the fact of the matter.

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                                                        • Barefootsies
                                                          Choice is an Illusion
                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                          • 42635

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by SomeCreep
                                                          huh? Professional webmasters always build pages so that they load correctly in both firefox and IE. I've been doing that since netscape 3.0 and IE 4.
                                                          True dat
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