New Program : NATS vs CCBILL - GoFuckYourself.com

Nardimus · 05-17-2006, 12:59 PM

I am starting up a new affiliate program with 7 sites and since we don't have a huge budget yet i am thinking of starting with just CCBILL to do the billing, stats, payouts and then to upgrade to NATS later on.

My question is, do webmasters these days not even take your program seriously unless you use NATS or MPA3?

Will going strictly CCBILL hold me back from gaining webmasters to promote my stuff?

Thanks

mufas · 05-17-2006, 01:08 PM

For me CCBILL

dial · 05-17-2006, 01:10 PM

I don't touch programs that use CCBILL....my clicks never add up and they scrub entirely too hard

munki · 05-17-2006, 01:11 PM

CCBill can be okay, but most programs that use them heavily code around the CCBill cookie's to give the wms a little more security with thier traffic.

Jay_StandAhead · 05-17-2006, 01:35 PM

I hate promoting a CCbill program. Bad tracking, often no backup processor, etc. This makes for 20-30% less sales

Go with NATS or don't go at all

ninavain · 05-17-2006, 01:37 PM

NATS with 2 processors

Nardimus · 05-17-2006, 01:41 PM

Sounds like nats is worth the investment.

which processors do you guys recommend going with when using NATS? CCBILL and Paycom?

kaktuz · 05-17-2006, 01:42 PM

i dont like ccbill at all ;< it sux

Nardimus · 05-17-2006, 01:43 PM

also with NATS, would we have to send out payments to webmasters ourselves? Are there any companies that would do this for you?

MarkMan · 05-17-2006, 01:44 PM

as an affilate of many sites. i will tell you i preffer the once using NATS.. it also has great setup for Hosted gallerys and exporting the urls.. sites that don't use nats drive me nuz.. and some i just don't use .. becouse its too diffecult to deal with them

xlogger · 05-17-2006, 01:46 PM

I was woundering about this as well.

Cant you like have nats and then let cbill cut the checks, is that possible?

PornAddict · 05-17-2006, 01:50 PM

In the long run, you have more options to work with if you use NATS. They're also priced affordably for start-up companies so budgeting shouldn't be a big problem. I'd say go with them now... since you're planning on doing it in the future anyway, might as well just save yourself the time and your affiliates the hassle.

I did enjoy having CCBill cut the checks though.

- PornAddict

Sam I Am · 05-17-2006, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nardimus

also with NATS, would we have to send out payments to webmasters ourselves? Are there any companies that would do this for you?

Yes this is a good question about affiliate check processing. That's the one thing that makes me hesitant about starting with NATS instead of just using CCBill.

breaker · 05-17-2006, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dial

I don't touch programs that use CCBILL....my clicks never add up and they scrub entirely too hard

Hmm i don't see how that makes any sense. If a program runs with NATS what do you think they process with in the back? NATS?

Manowar · 05-17-2006, 02:22 PM

go with nats

shuki · 05-17-2006, 02:27 PM

Nats

Greg MissionD · 05-17-2006, 02:27 PM

Go with NATS, with the cascading billing options your also make more joins.
There are other tools within nats that will also help you bring in more joins or mail out special offers to get members that cancel back for you and your affiliates.

IamShaider · 05-17-2006, 02:43 PM

NATS baby

madawgz · 05-17-2006, 04:54 PM

sometimes peoples credit cards get declined on ccbill but approved with paycom

bigdog · 05-18-2006, 04:35 AM

Getting nats and and cascading between ccbill and paycom would be your best option. You are just leaving money on the table if you aren't doing it

jerzeemedia · 05-18-2006, 04:37 AM

NATs all the way

xclusive · 05-18-2006, 04:38 AM

Nats is more than worth it.

DutchTeenCash · 05-18-2006, 04:39 AM

most do ccbill first then hop to nats, the epass/checks issue is troublesome but there are companies who do that just search

darksoul · 05-18-2006, 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdog

Getting nats and and cascading between ccbill and paycom would be your best option. You are just leaving money on the table if you aren't doing it

only that you can't do cascade billing with ccbill.

justsexxx · 05-18-2006, 04:46 AM

Do you have any contact info? I would like to chat with you

Violetta · 05-18-2006, 05:00 AM

I love ccbill! If I had 10 sites + and a few people working for me, I would consider nats or stuff like that. But for now, ccbill rock! Stats are great and signup-ratios are very good!

rose4u · 05-18-2006, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nardimus

also with NATS, would we have to send out payments to webmasters ourselves? Are there any companies that would do this for you?

Nardimus,

My company specializes in Affiliate Payouts for companies using NATS or any other affiliate software. We offer check, ePassporte, Fund2Go, International and Domestic payout methods.

I'd love to discuss this further with you if you decide to go with NATS or just have any questions about our services.

Looking forward to hearing from you,

05-17-2006, 12:59 PM	#1
Nardimus Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle Posts: 418	New Program : NATS vs CCBILL I am starting up a new affiliate program with 7 sites and since we don't have a huge budget yet i am thinking of starting with just CCBILL to do the billing, stats, payouts and then to upgrade to NATS later on. My question is, do webmasters these days not even take your program seriously unless you use NATS or MPA3? Will going strictly CCBILL hold me back from gaining webmasters to promote my stuff? Thanks

05-17-2006, 01:08 PM	#2
mufas Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 1,054	For me CCBILL __________________

05-17-2006, 01:10 PM	#3
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05-17-2006, 01:11 PM	#4
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05-17-2006, 01:35 PM	#5
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05-17-2006, 01:37 PM	#6
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05-17-2006, 01:41 PM	#7
Nardimus Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle Posts: 418	Sounds like nats is worth the investment. which processors do you guys recommend going with when using NATS? CCBILL and Paycom?

05-17-2006, 01:42 PM	#8
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05-17-2006, 01:43 PM	#9
Nardimus Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle Posts: 418	also with NATS, would we have to send out payments to webmasters ourselves? Are there any companies that would do this for you?

05-17-2006, 01:44 PM	#10
MarkMan Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Money Land Posts: 1,370	as an affilate of many sites. i will tell you i preffer the once using NATS.. it also has great setup for Hosted gallerys and exporting the urls.. sites that don't use nats drive me nuz.. and some i just don't use .. becouse its too diffecult to deal with them

05-17-2006, 01:46 PM	#11
xlogger Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: NY Posts: 9,507	I was woundering about this as well. Cant you like have nats and then let cbill cut the checks, is that possible? __________________ ---------- XLOGGER [REFLECTED] [OH]

05-17-2006, 01:50 PM	#12
PornAddict Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,401	In the long run, you have more options to work with if you use NATS. They're also priced affordably for start-up companies so budgeting shouldn't be a big problem. I'd say go with them now... since you're planning on doing it in the future anyway, might as well just save yourself the time and your affiliates the hassle. I did enjoy having CCBill cut the checks though. - PornAddict

05-17-2006, 02:22 PM	#15
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05-17-2006, 02:27 PM	#17
Greg MissionD Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,866	Go with NATS, with the cascading billing options your also make more joins. There are other tools within nats that will also help you bring in more joins or mail out special offers to get members that cancel back for you and your affiliates. __________________ ICQ:119936

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05-18-2006, 04:35 AM	#20
bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	Getting nats and and cascading between ccbill and paycom would be your best option. You are just leaving money on the table if you aren't doing it

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05-18-2006, 05:00 AM	#26
Violetta Affiliate Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 28,735	I love ccbill! If I had 10 sites + and a few people working for me, I would consider nats or stuff like that. But for now, ccbill rock! Stats are great and signup-ratios are very good! __________________ M&A Queen