Why I hate DMOZ.org - GoFuckYourself.com

Libertine · 05-15-2006, 05:30 PM

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# Any form of unconventional traffic creation / manipulation.

What kind of idiot makes a rule prohibiting "unconventional" marketing methods?

baddog · 05-15-2006, 05:35 PM

Their ball, their rules.

SmokeyTheBear · 05-15-2006, 05:36 PM

thats one of those "catch all" rules that are used to remove you if they cant find a real reason..

Libertine · 05-15-2006, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Their ball, their rules.

They can do whatever the hell they want. That doesn't take away from the fact that they are complete morons who don't understand the first thing about the internet and will always fail at being useful to the average surfer because of that.

baddog · 05-15-2006, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

thats one of those "catch all" rules that are used to remove you if they cant find a real reason..

You lost me . . . what do they have to gain by removing sites?

baddog · 05-15-2006, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by punkworld

They can do whatever the hell they want. That doesn't take away from the fact that they are complete morons who don't understand the first thing about the internet and will always fail at being useful to the average surfer because of that.

Right. I am sure you are making better bank than they are, so why not put them out of business?

Libertine · 05-15-2006, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Right. I am sure you are making better bank than they are, so why not put them out of business?

I am pretty sure that I do indeed make more bank from working online than most of the community of unpaid volunteers who regulate most of DMOZ do from working on DMOZ (excluding, of course, some of those "unpaid volunteers" who are there simply to get their own crappy sites in).

That's not my point though. What I am mainly annoyed at is that DMOZ could have huge potential as something actually relevant, but somehow manages to fill itself with idiots who in turn fill the listings with useless, spammy and dead links, while setting up ridiculous rules which often keep out exactly those legitimate sites which would be useful for the surfers.

Libertine · 05-15-2006, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

You lost me . . . what do they have to gain by removing sites?

Tons of reasons, ranging from editors who list their own sites and like to keep competition out, to the internet nazis who have no social life and take out their frustration by establishing their own little randomly governed dictatorships.
You know, the guys who cry on their personal blogs about some girl who doesn't even know they exist, and whose moods are determined by the amount of comments they get to their posts (0 = suicidal tendencies, <3 = crying, <5 = sulking, >10 = orgasm).

baddog · 05-15-2006, 06:23 PM

If it is not useful to surfers then surfers must not go there, which means you have no need for it. Right?

mikeet · 05-15-2006, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by punkworld

What I am mainly annoyed at is that DMOZ could have huge potential as something actually relevant, but somehow manages to fill itself with idiots who in turn fill the listings with useless, spammy and dead links, while setting up ridiculous rules which often keep out exactly those legitimate sites which would be useful for the surfers.

I couldn't agree more. I found DMOZ to be quite useless, needless to say i havent been there in years.

kenny · 05-15-2006, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

If it is not useful to surfers then surfers must not go there, which means you have no need for it. Right?

Google uses DMOZ for it's directory listings

A DMOZ listing helps google rankings beause of the backlinks

Libertine · 05-15-2006, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

If it is not useful to surfers then surfers must not go there, which means you have no need for it. Right?

It's more useful for link weight than for traffic, actually.

http://search.dmoz.org/cgi-bin/search?search=topix

ready lube · 05-15-2006, 06:44 PM

dmoz needs a lot of work I agree. I have waited forever for sites to be added and have followed all the rules to the "T" and still get nothing from most of their catagories..

baddog · 05-15-2006, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by punkworld

It's more useful for link weight than for traffic, actually.

http://search.dmoz.org/cgi-bin/search?search=topix

I am quite aware of that. Just trying to emphasize my earlier point. Their ball, their rules.

You are the one that said they "will always fail at being useful to the average surfer." Who cares about the surfers, right?

Libertine · 05-15-2006, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

I am quite aware of that. Just trying to emphasize my earlier point. Their ball, their rules.

You are the one that said they "will always fail at being useful to the average surfer." Who cares about the surfers, right?

I care about the surfers. Or, at least, I care about the internet being useful. Once, I thought dmoz was a great resource as well as concept. It's annoying to see something like that fail so badly at what it should have done.

I'd be just as annoyed if wikipedia started sucking, or imdb, or google.

SmokeyTheBear · 05-15-2006, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

You lost me . . . what do they have to gain by removing sites?

removing competition.. paid to remove someone. theres lots of reasons why to remove someone , the more valid question is what do they have to LOSE by removing you

woj · 05-15-2006, 07:44 PM

I don't see why you are bitching about it, I agree dmoz is not as useful as it once was, but what does pointing some random rule have to do with anything? Your site got denied because of that rule or something?

Libertine · 05-15-2006, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by woj

I don't see why you are bitching about it, I agree dmoz is not as useful as it once was, but what does pointing some random rule have to do with anything? Your site got denied because of that rule or something?

The rule is just one example of many, a random idiotic rule among countless idiotic rules. I could have pointed out the one saying sites that promote other sites have no unique content, instead, or sites listed that break literally every rule of the category they're in, or categories consisting of 50% dead links.

Ironically, my sites almost always get listed, and pretty quickly at that. My bitching is at the idiocy of dmoz, not at what dmoz does for me.

ready lube · 05-15-2006, 08:14 PM

what are you supposed to do when you have submitted your site and you hear nothing back etc. etc.

It seems like there could be someone that never checks to see ifthere are any new sites that want to be added...but then what can you do about it?

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ready lube Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: ReadyLube.com Posts: 2,043	what are you supposed to do when you have submitted your site and you hear nothing back etc. etc. It seems like there could be someone that never checks to see ifthere are any new sites that want to be added...but then what can you do about it? __________________ Ready Lube - Natural Water Based Personal Lubricant that really works! Check out our special offers going on now! Save BIG! Spice things up with Ready Lube!

05-15-2006, 05:35 PM	#2
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	Their ball, their rules.

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baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	If it is not useful to surfers then surfers must not go there, which means you have no need for it. Right?