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Libertine 05-15-2006 05:30 PM

Why I hate DMOZ.org
 
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# Any form of unconventional traffic creation / manipulation.
What kind of idiot makes a rule prohibiting "unconventional" marketing methods? :321GFY

baddog 05-15-2006 05:35 PM

Their ball, their rules.

SmokeyTheBear 05-15-2006 05:36 PM

thats one of those "catch all" rules that are used to remove you if they cant find a real reason..

Libertine 05-15-2006 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog
Their ball, their rules.

They can do whatever the hell they want. That doesn't take away from the fact that they are complete morons who don't understand the first thing about the internet and will always fail at being useful to the average surfer because of that.

baddog 05-15-2006 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
thats one of those "catch all" rules that are used to remove you if they cant find a real reason..


You lost me . . . what do they have to gain by removing sites?

baddog 05-15-2006 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by punkworld
They can do whatever the hell they want. That doesn't take away from the fact that they are complete morons who don't understand the first thing about the internet and will always fail at being useful to the average surfer because of that.


Right. I am sure you are making better bank than they are, so why not put them out of business?

Libertine 05-15-2006 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog
Right. I am sure you are making better bank than they are, so why not put them out of business?

I am pretty sure that I do indeed make more bank from working online than most of the community of unpaid volunteers who regulate most of DMOZ do from working on DMOZ (excluding, of course, some of those "unpaid volunteers" who are there simply to get their own crappy sites in).

That's not my point though. What I am mainly annoyed at is that DMOZ could have huge potential as something actually relevant, but somehow manages to fill itself with idiots who in turn fill the listings with useless, spammy and dead links, while setting up ridiculous rules which often keep out exactly those legitimate sites which would be useful for the surfers.

Libertine 05-15-2006 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog
You lost me . . . what do they have to gain by removing sites?

Tons of reasons, ranging from editors who list their own sites and like to keep competition out, to the internet nazis who have no social life and take out their frustration by establishing their own little randomly governed dictatorships.
You know, the guys who cry on their personal blogs about some girl who doesn't even know they exist, and whose moods are determined by the amount of comments they get to their posts (0 = suicidal tendencies, <3 = crying, <5 = sulking, >10 = orgasm).

baddog 05-15-2006 06:23 PM

If it is not useful to surfers then surfers must not go there, which means you have no need for it. Right?

mikeet 05-15-2006 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by punkworld
What I am mainly annoyed at is that DMOZ could have huge potential as something actually relevant, but somehow manages to fill itself with idiots who in turn fill the listings with useless, spammy and dead links, while setting up ridiculous rules which often keep out exactly those legitimate sites which would be useful for the surfers.

I couldn't agree more. I found DMOZ to be quite useless, needless to say i havent been there in years.

kenny 05-15-2006 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog
If it is not useful to surfers then surfers must not go there, which means you have no need for it. Right?


Google uses DMOZ for it's directory listings

A DMOZ listing helps google rankings beause of the backlinks

Libertine 05-15-2006 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog
If it is not useful to surfers then surfers must not go there, which means you have no need for it. Right?

It's more useful for link weight than for traffic, actually.

http://search.dmoz.org/cgi-bin/search?search=topix :1orglaugh

ready lube 05-15-2006 06:44 PM

dmoz needs a lot of work I agree. I have waited forever for sites to be added and have followed all the rules to the "T" and still get nothing from most of their catagories..

baddog 05-15-2006 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by punkworld
It's more useful for link weight than for traffic, actually.

http://search.dmoz.org/cgi-bin/search?search=topix :1orglaugh


I am quite aware of that. Just trying to emphasize my earlier point. Their ball, their rules.

You are the one that said they "will always fail at being useful to the average surfer." Who cares about the surfers, right?

Libertine 05-15-2006 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog
I am quite aware of that. Just trying to emphasize my earlier point. Their ball, their rules.

You are the one that said they "will always fail at being useful to the average surfer." Who cares about the surfers, right?

I care about the surfers. Or, at least, I care about the internet being useful. Once, I thought dmoz was a great resource as well as concept. It's annoying to see something like that fail so badly at what it should have done.

I'd be just as annoyed if wikipedia started sucking, or imdb, or google.

SmokeyTheBear 05-15-2006 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog
You lost me . . . what do they have to gain by removing sites?

removing competition.. paid to remove someone. theres lots of reasons why to remove someone , the more valid question is what do they have to LOSE by removing you :winkwink:

woj 05-15-2006 07:44 PM

I don't see why you are bitching about it, I agree dmoz is not as useful as it once was, but what does pointing some random rule have to do with anything? Your site got denied because of that rule or something?

Libertine 05-15-2006 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by woj
I don't see why you are bitching about it, I agree dmoz is not as useful as it once was, but what does pointing some random rule have to do with anything? Your site got denied because of that rule or something?

The rule is just one example of many, a random idiotic rule among countless idiotic rules. I could have pointed out the one saying sites that promote other sites have no unique content, instead, or sites listed that break literally every rule of the category they're in, or categories consisting of 50% dead links.

Ironically, my sites almost always get listed, and pretty quickly at that. My bitching is at the idiocy of dmoz, not at what dmoz does for me.

ready lube 05-15-2006 08:14 PM

what are you supposed to do when you have submitted your site and you hear nothing back etc. etc.

It seems like there could be someone that never checks to see ifthere are any new sites that want to be added...but then what can you do about it?


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