Fleshlight: I would like to address your concerns........ - GoFuckYourself.com

Ramos · 05-12-2006, 04:14 PM

Affiliates, Webmasters and GFY:

I'd like to clear up some issues that have come up, as well as update you about our program, Fleshlight.

Let me start by saying that while Fleshlight is a fantastic product there are still some things that we,
as a young affiliate program are finding out.

Part of fixing some of the current bugs required putting together a team of folks with a winning attitude
and that wanted to be part of a successful company. We have had done a lot of restructuring which is what brought
me into my new positiion with this company. We are working night and day to bring you the type of affiliate program
that has a brand you can trust.

I did not mean to arouse suspicions about my character by attending the Toronto Webmaster Access show, I think everyone here
will testify that I am working very hard, and our talented team is back in Texas working to fix everything
that has been addressed recently on GFY.

I look forward to continuing to work with ALL of you and hope that you will contact me on ICQ or email with any other questions
or concerns that you may have concerning Fleshlight and its affiliate program.

Also, feel free to contact [email protected] for any questions/concerns, it is monitored by our support staff.

Halcyon · 05-12-2006, 04:15 PM

thanks, Ramos. ((HUG))

Mr.Right - Banned For Life · 05-12-2006, 04:15 PM

Congrats Ramos, i hope it all goes well.

munki · 05-12-2006, 04:16 PM

Ramos is the pimp...

I'm sure Fleshlight will get everything handled for their affs.

RAM · 05-12-2006, 04:17 PM

Love you MAN

BradM · 05-12-2006, 04:17 PM

So why did you answer all those threads like a dickhead? Just curious how you think you can dig your way out of this ditch.

CT · 05-12-2006, 04:19 PM

Well said

Damian_Maxcash · 05-12-2006, 04:20 PM

As far as I can see you still cant sign up - is that because its invite only?

dial · 05-12-2006, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramos

I did not mean to arouse suspicions about my character by attending the Toronto Webmaster Access show

OMFG

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST YOU COMPLETE MORON

I can't even respond fully cause this makes me so frustrated

from this statement alone anyone can see why you are the laughing stock of the industry right now

Deraj · 05-12-2006, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by damian2001

As far as I can see you still cant sign up - is that because its invite only?

I think it's been invite only for sometime now

Gottis · 05-12-2006, 04:23 PM

Brian finally got through to you on your cell eh? lol

Jon B · 05-12-2006, 04:23 PM

nice reply you still banging trannies?

dial · 05-12-2006, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradM

So why did you answer all those threads like a dickhead? Just curious how you think you can dig your way out of this ditch.

he won't be able to, the hole is already dug and he is laying it

people kept addressing shit over and over and all he wanted to do was play mr. funny guy and RIP ON ANY WEBMASTER THAT DOESN'T HAVE SERIOUS TRAFFIC

i sincerly hope every single person on this board has pulled their fleshlight links and bans them on all sites they own

responses like this are why affiliate reps these days are the bottom of the barrel

BradM · 05-12-2006, 04:25 PM

I just think this is his real personality coming out. He couldn't be a fucking douche on GFY (aside from closing and deleting buddies threads, etc etc obviously) because he was employed by adult.com. Lensman was probably happy as piss to get rid of the guy, but was afraid he might burn down his house again and post it on GFY so he could get another new car so kept him around letting him spam Fleshlight daily until he left on his own.

Who knows though, maybe he is a "top notch bro" after all.

Just_Dave · 05-12-2006, 04:30 PM

good stuff buddy

ANAL PASTE · 05-12-2006, 04:38 PM

does it meanweall get free sample?

georgeyw · 05-12-2006, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramos

I did not mean to arouse suspicions about my character by attending the Toronto Webmaster Access show

What exactly does this mean? Seriously if anyone else can explain it to me i'd really appreciate it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramos

I think everyone here
will testify that I am working very hard, and our talented team is back in Texas working to fix everything
that has been addressed recently on GFY.

of course they will - they think you're a "top notch guy".

Nothing has been *addressed*, alot of concerns have been raised but NOTHING has been addressed.

You've managed to write a response that provides no information whatsoever? Also how about apologising to smaller affiliates for being an arrogant prick!

05-12-2006, 04:46 PM

today is an historic day mark it please !
The ThumbLords are confused because we do agree with BradM.
this should have never ever happened.
just think of it ................... ThumbLords ................... BradM .............. nah ............. no way.
but heh ............ IT DID HAPPEN and it was today

american pervert · 05-12-2006, 04:56 PM

my money is on ramos.

minusonebit · 05-12-2006, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradM

Lensman was probably happy as piss to get rid of the guy, but was afraid he might burn down his house again and post it on GFY so he could get another new car so kept him around letting him spam Fleshlight daily until he left on his own.

Where is that thread? I bet that was a good read.

05-12-2006, 05:00 PM

american perv ........... YOU LOOSE please do not ever bet again......... it will cost you 4 sure

Mr Pheer · 05-12-2006, 05:03 PM

Why doesnt fleshlight have a team in Vegas since that is where the company is?

american pervert · 05-12-2006, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThumbLord

american perv ........... YOU LOOSE please do not ever bet again......... it will cost you 4 sure

yeah ok.. we'll see

TheSenator · 05-12-2006, 05:05 PM

Now, I need an invite.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-12-2006, 05:05 PM

Where's JimTheFiend now?

Crying in his basement?

Deraj · 05-12-2006, 05:09 PM

EdgeXXX · 05-12-2006, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramos

and our talented team is back in Texas working to fix everything that has been addressed recently on GFY.

Texas? I thought you guys were in Vegas. Where in Texas?

dynastoned · 05-12-2006, 05:12 PM

yo actions speak louder then words. just make right on what happened before and im sure everything will pan out.

stickyfingerz · 05-12-2006, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dial

OMFG

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST YOU COMPLETE MORON

I can't even respond fully cause this makes me so frustrated

from this statement alone anyone can see why you are the laughing stock of the industry right now

Again.. who the fuck are you? Ramos clearly just addressed the concerns and gave direct lines of contact for any affiliates that have further questions.

Imo some of the people who are bashing have no idea what is involved in trying to re-establish a program while it is still running. Anyone who seems to think this is a task that can be accomplish in a short amount of time shows how clueless they really are. I know that Ramos, and the fleshlight staff are working as quickly as possible to get up the new affiliate and sales program.

Though Im sure many of you would like to see the new program done half assed and have issues so you can then hate and bash somemore.

Fresh · 05-12-2006, 05:20 PM

hope the show was great at least

stickyfingerz · 05-12-2006, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dial

he won't be able to, the hole is already dug and he is laying it

people kept addressing shit over and over and all he wanted to do was play mr. funny guy and RIP ON ANY WEBMASTER THAT DOESN'T HAVE SERIOUS TRAFFIC

i sincerly hope every single person on this board has pulled their fleshlight links and bans them on all sites they own

responses like this are why affiliate reps these days are the bottom of the barrel

I dont mean to be crass..., but you are an absolute asshat. In fact Im in the Chicago airport at the moment and I feel the urge to yell loudly.

DIAL IS AN ABSOLUTE ASSHAT!! .... You are just lucky TSA is looking at me menacingly lol

stickyfingerz · 05-12-2006, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Guru

hope the show was great at least

YO!! Dave got to talk to you this week sometime man. Havent had my Dave Guru fix!

(that sounds kind of gay, but ya know what I mean. lol)

High Plains Drifter · 05-12-2006, 05:23 PM

I don't think anybody gave a shit you were at a show. The concern was that you responded to a 150 post thread of fleshlight complaints with "Juicy gives great handjobs."

stickyfingerz · 05-12-2006, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrPheer

Why doesnt fleshlight have a team in Vegas since that is where the company is?

Thats where they are manufactured. The offices are in Austin I believe.

stickyfingerz · 05-12-2006, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dial

he won't be able to, the hole is already dug and he is laying it

people kept addressing shit over and over and all he wanted to do was play mr. funny guy and RIP ON ANY WEBMASTER THAT DOESN'T HAVE SERIOUS TRAFFIC

i sincerly hope every single person on this board has pulled their fleshlight links and bans them on all sites they own

responses like this are why affiliate reps these days are the bottom of the barrel

I actually will be adding way more links than I had. Im happy to hear that the new affiliate program is underway and should be completed as quickly as its possible. This can only help the affiliates who push their products. Of course we could have them wasting time fixing errors on a system that will soon be scrapped for the new one..... You're right that sounds like a better idea...

Deraj · 05-12-2006, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet

YO!! Dave got to talk to you this week sometime man. Havent had my Dave Guru fix!

(that sounds kind of gay, but ya know what I mean. lol)

hmm.. maybe some alone time would be in order

dial · 05-12-2006, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet

Again.. who the fuck are you? Ramos clearly just addressed the concerns and gave direct lines of contact for any affiliates that have further questions.

Imo some of the people who are bashing have no idea what is involved in trying to re-establish a program while it is still running. Anyone who seems to think this is a task that can be accomplish in a short amount of time shows how clueless they really are. I know that Ramos, and the fleshlight staff are working as quickly as possible to get up the new affiliate and sales program.

Though Im sure many of you would like to see the new program done half assed and have issues so you can then hate and bash somemore.

like I said previously, I am me, you are you, I am a fleshlight affiliate, that is all that matters....but as ramos said before the small guys don't matter, so I pulled links...

is ramos working on his attitude? cause THAT is the real issue here dumbass, if you can't see that, then you are "top notch guy" blinded

dial · 05-12-2006, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet

I dont mean to be crass..., but you are an absolute asshat. In fact Im in the Chicago airport at the moment and I feel the urge to yell loudly.

DIAL IS AN ABSOLUTE ASSHAT!! .... You are just lucky TSA is looking at me menacingly lol

Ramos said that the smaller affiliates don't matter, and this is all right with you?

that is 100% fucked up man

dial · 05-12-2006, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet

I actually will be adding way more links than I had. Im happy to hear that the new affiliate program is underway and should be completed as quickly as its possible. This can only help the affiliates who push their products. Of course we could have them wasting time fixing errors on a system that will soon be scrapped for the new one..... You're right that sounds like a better idea...

but remember, when you can only push a few hundred hits a month, ramos doesn't care about you

V_RocKs · 05-12-2006, 05:31 PM

Made 2 more sales today... I love this job...

EdgeXXX · 05-12-2006, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet

Thats where they are manufactured. The offices are in Austin I believe.

What the... How did I not hear about the offices being here in Austin? If you need any help with this Ramos, by all means let me know.

edgeprod · 05-12-2006, 05:35 PM

Good luck, but the mistakes of the past die hard in my mind -- which is why I haven't promoted you.

I'm interested to see if you turn things around now -- I'll keep my eyes open.

CyberHustler · 05-12-2006, 05:37 PM

whatever yo, i miss the old ramos

stickyfingerz · 05-12-2006, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dial

like I said previously, I am me, you are you, I am a fleshlight affiliate, that is all that matters....but as ramos said before the small guys don't matter, so I pulled links...

is ramos working on his attitude? cause THAT is the real issue here dumbass, if you can't see that, then you are "top notch guy" blinded

No offense since I dont know you, but you signed up this month and start attacking someone you dont know, about an issue you are even less informed about. To me that reaks of suspicion, and I would guess there is and alternate reason for the haterade attitude you have been giving off.

I have to catch my plane so Ill check back on these threads later. I can however ASSURE YOU that having talked to Ramos extensively about everything they are on top of this, and they are redoing the whole program from scratch. The previous system used oscommerce as a backend, and I can tell you I know all about that nightmare. The new system will be much more streamlined and suited to both sales, and affiliates. The oscommerce affiliate system is more of an add on then it is intergrated to do what it does. I love drama as much as everyone else, but all of this is totally undeserved. He has only been in his position a few short weeks. Give him time to get the new system launched before bitching.

Sly · 05-12-2006, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet

No offense since I dont know you, but you signed up this month and start attacking someone you dont know, about an issue you are even less informed about. To me that reaks of suspicion, and I would guess there is and alternate reason for the haterade attitude you have been giving off.

I have to catch my plane so Ill check back on these threads later. I can however ASSURE YOU that having talked to Ramos extensively about everything they are on top of this, and they are redoing the whole program from scratch. The previous system used oscommerce as a backend, and I can tell you I know all about that nightmare. The new system will be much more streamlined and suited to both sales, and affiliates. The oscommerce affiliate system is more of an add on then it is intergrated to do what it does. I love drama as much as everyone else, but all of this is totally undeserved. He has only been in his position a few short weeks. Give him time to get the new system launched before bitching.

If the system is so sub-par and it still needs so much work, why continue marketing it so hard? That makes no sense. Market a non-working product to people (affiliates) and they're going to be pissed, rightfully so.

Damian_Maxcash · 05-12-2006, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly

If the system is so sub-par and it still needs so much work, why continue marketing it so hard? That makes no sense. Market a non-working product to people (affiliates) and they're going to be pissed, rightfully so.

A relaunch would be a damned good idea - FleshLight2 - chuck in a few comps and a GFY skin and it all starts to look a lot healthier.

TheSpreader · 05-12-2006, 05:47 PM

Is Fleshlight getting fucked? Literally?

Ramos, I know that your happy-go-lucky attitude on GFY is what made you so popular (aside from your good ole' boy moderator attitude when regarding threads attacking your boys) but now you are a rep for a company, a young company and your asshat attitude has really stirred the pot. When concerned affiliated started threads as their last resort you replied with bullshit comments that made them into jokes. These were/are legitimate concerns but you still approached them with the same mentality as when you were a MOD on GFY and with Adult.com. You joked, made a fucked up comment and thought the roar of laughter would drown out the problems. Life doesn't work that way my friend.

I do applaud you for this thread but my friend, I think its a day late and a dollar short. You could and should have addressed all of the issues in a professional manner in the first place rather than turning it all into one big joke. Once again, you have to know what is appropriate for your position (the term "Know your Role" comes to mind) and when you were with Adult.com your jovial attitude was admired by many. Now you're coming off as a clown dangling from your spiderweb thin shred of credibility. It's not looking good for you or for Fleshlight. For what it's worth, they should cut their losses and understand that they fucked up by bringing you on board. I have never seen one single person give a company such a bad rep in such a short amount of time since Lee Iacocca.

Good luck trying to get your credibility back but you have to understand that now you're fighting an uphill battle. Credibility is the hardest thing to earn but the easiest to lose.

stickyfingerz · 05-12-2006, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly

If the system is so sub-par and it still needs so much work, why continue marketing it so hard? That makes no sense. Market a non-working product to people (affiliates) and they're going to be pissed, rightfully so.

Its not currently open to new signups. The marketing doesnt stop just because they are redoing the program. Plane was delayed by 20 mins or so so had time to make a few more posts.

TheSpreader · 05-12-2006, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet

Its not currently open to new signups. The marketing doesnt stop just because they are redoing the program. Plane was delayed by 20 mins or so so had time to make a few more posts.

I beg to differ. One of the most destructive things for a company is poor planning and this entire ordeal has poor planning written all over it.

Why market and promote the fuck out of something if it doesn't work? That's like spending $10,000 for a local cable television commercial to sell your Le Car that's on block in your front yard worth $50 in scrap metal.

edgeprod · 05-12-2006, 06:04 PM

No one plans to fail -- they just fail to plan.

05-12-2006, 04:14 PM	#1
Ramos Custom User Title Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 11,927	Fleshlight: I would like to address your concerns........ Affiliates, Webmasters and GFY: I'd like to clear up some issues that have come up, as well as update you about our program, Fleshlight. Let me start by saying that while Fleshlight is a fantastic product there are still some things that we, as a young affiliate program are finding out. Part of fixing some of the current bugs required putting together a team of folks with a winning attitude and that wanted to be part of a successful company. We have had done a lot of restructuring which is what brought me into my new positiion with this company. We are working night and day to bring you the type of affiliate program that has a brand you can trust. I did not mean to arouse suspicions about my character by attending the Toronto Webmaster Access show, I think everyone here will testify that I am working very hard, and our talented team is back in Texas working to fix everything that has been addressed recently on GFY. I look forward to continuing to work with ALL of you and hope that you will contact me on ICQ or email with any other questions or concerns that you may have concerning Fleshlight and its affiliate program. Also, feel free to contact [email protected] for any questions/concerns, it is monitored by our support staff. __________________ blewit.com - Performance & Pleasure Training For Men.

05-12-2006, 04:15 PM	#2
Halcyon Spread The Pink! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: TrampStampStudios.com Posts: 8,609	thanks, Ramos. ((HUG)) __________________ HAL on TEDx:

05-12-2006, 04:16 PM	#4
munki Do Fun Shit. Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OC Posts: 13,393	Ramos is the pimp... I'm sure Fleshlight will get everything handled for their affs. __________________ “I have the simplest tastes. I am always satisfied with the best.” -Oscar Wilde

05-12-2006, 04:17 PM	#5
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05-12-2006, 04:19 PM	#7
CT Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 513	Well said __________________ ICQ: 34416048

05-12-2006, 04:15 PM	#3
Mr.Right - Banned For Life I guarantee it Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 18,314	Congrats Ramos, i hope it all goes well.

05-12-2006, 04:17 PM	#6
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	So why did you answer all those threads like a dickhead? Just curious how you think you can dig your way out of this ditch.

05-12-2006, 04:20 PM	#8
Damian_Maxcash So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: MaxCash.com Posts: 12,745	As far as I can see you still cant sign up - is that because its invite only?

05-12-2006, 04:23 PM	#11
Gottis Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: VIP NO ID Posts: 1,746	Brian finally got through to you on your cell eh? lol

05-12-2006, 04:23 PM	#12
Jon B Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 473	nice reply you still banging trannies? __________________ Jon B http://www.premiumcontentstore.com ICQ 253072098 aim jbb86 [email protected] Need Merchant accounts. 4 US domestic banks/mutiple International banks: contact me at: [email protected]

05-12-2006, 04:25 PM	#14
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	I just think this is his real personality coming out. He couldn't be a fucking douche on GFY (aside from closing and deleting buddies threads, etc etc obviously) because he was employed by adult.com. Lensman was probably happy as piss to get rid of the guy, but was afraid he might burn down his house again and post it on GFY so he could get another new car so kept him around letting him spam Fleshlight daily until he left on his own. Who knows though, maybe he is a "top notch bro" after all.

05-12-2006, 04:30 PM	#15
Just_Dave Its almost time Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 13,009	good stuff buddy

05-12-2006, 04:38 PM	#16
ANAL PASTE Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Puget Sound, WA Posts: 9,070	does it meanweall get free sample? __________________ SEE YOU IN VALHALLA, BRO

05-12-2006, 04:46 PM	#18
ThumbLord Guest Posts: n/a	today is an historic day mark it please ! The ThumbLords are confused because we do agree with BradM. this should have never ever happened. just think of it ................... ThumbLords ................... BradM .............. nah ............. no way. but heh ............ IT DID HAPPEN and it was today

05-12-2006, 04:56 PM	#19
american pervert Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,830	my money is on ramos. __________________ I can resist everything except temptation

05-12-2006, 05:00 PM	#21
ThumbLord Guest Posts: n/a	american perv ........... YOU LOOSE please do not ever bet again......... it will cost you 4 sure

05-12-2006, 05:03 PM	#22
Mr Pheer Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 21,448	Why doesnt fleshlight have a team in Vegas since that is where the company is?

05-12-2006, 05:05 PM	#24
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05-12-2006, 05:05 PM	#25
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05-12-2006, 05:12 PM	#28
dynastoned mmm yeah! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: roseville, ca Posts: 5,061	yo actions speak louder then words. just make right on what happened before and im sure everything will pan out.

05-12-2006, 05:20 PM	#30
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05-12-2006, 05:23 PM	#33
High Plains Drifter Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: ♠ ♣ ♥ Posts: 2,341	I don't think anybody gave a shit you were at a show. The concern was that you responded to a 150 post thread of fleshlight complaints with "Juicy gives great handjobs."

05-12-2006, 05:31 PM	#40
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,421	Made 2 more sales today... I love this job...

05-12-2006, 05:35 PM	#42
edgeprod Permanently Gone Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 10,019	Good luck, but the mistakes of the past die hard in my mind -- which is why I haven't promoted you. I'm interested to see if you turn things around now -- I'll keep my eyes open.

05-12-2006, 05:37 PM	#43
CyberHustler Masterbaiter Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 26,471	whatever yo, i miss the old ramos

05-12-2006, 05:47 PM	#47
TheSpreader So Fucking Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 501	Is Fleshlight getting fucked? Literally? Ramos, I know that your happy-go-lucky attitude on GFY is what made you so popular (aside from your good ole' boy moderator attitude when regarding threads attacking your boys) but now you are a rep for a company, a young company and your asshat attitude has really stirred the pot. When concerned affiliated started threads as their last resort you replied with bullshit comments that made them into jokes. These were/are legitimate concerns but you still approached them with the same mentality as when you were a MOD on GFY and with Adult.com. You joked, made a fucked up comment and thought the roar of laughter would drown out the problems. Life doesn't work that way my friend. I do applaud you for this thread but my friend, I think its a day late and a dollar short. You could and should have addressed all of the issues in a professional manner in the first place rather than turning it all into one big joke. Once again, you have to know what is appropriate for your position (the term "Know your Role" comes to mind) and when you were with Adult.com your jovial attitude was admired by many. Now you're coming off as a clown dangling from your spiderweb thin shred of credibility. It's not looking good for you or for Fleshlight. For what it's worth, they should cut their losses and understand that they fucked up by bringing you on board. I have never seen one single person give a company such a bad rep in such a short amount of time since Lee Iacocca. Good luck trying to get your credibility back but you have to understand that now you're fighting an uphill battle. Credibility is the hardest thing to earn but the easiest to lose. Last edited by TheSpreader; 05-12-2006 at 05:49 PM..

05-12-2006, 06:04 PM	#50
edgeprod Permanently Gone Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 10,019	No one plans to fail -- they just fail to plan.