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woj · 06-05-2006, 09:25 PM

50...........

Snake Doctor · 06-16-2006, 12:39 AM

The gallery is up now

TheHun called this shemale a "babe", I'm not sure if that's good or bad

Clownbarf · 06-16-2006, 11:29 AM

Keep us updated

Screaming · 06-16-2006, 11:31 AM

can we see the gallery?

OldSchoolJim · 06-16-2006, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lenny2

The gallery is up now

TheHun called this shemale a "babe", I'm not sure if that's good or bad

Lenny! all of our girlymen are babes!!

Hopefully you rock! tranny is a hard nich to crack....but we normally do real well! GOOOOD LUUUCK!!

Snake Doctor · 06-16-2006, 04:30 PM

10 sales so far and heading into prime time.

Tempest · 06-16-2006, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Screaming

can we see the gallery?

http://1-dream.com/hun/lenny2/

MikesTraffic · 06-16-2006, 05:41 PM

keep us up to date playa, nice looking gallery too btw

MikesTraffic · 06-16-2006, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lenny2

10 sales so far and heading into prime time.

I thought prime time for sales was between 11pm and 3 am?

darnit · 06-16-2006, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest

http://1-dream.com/hun/lenny2/

BG color of the gallery is all black in FF. Cant read the text...

UtahSaints · 06-16-2006, 06:16 PM

good looking gallery..How many sales today?

MikesTraffic · 06-17-2006, 04:45 AM

well? how did it do so far

wdforty · 06-17-2006, 05:28 AM

gallery looks good, any update?

beta-tester · 06-17-2006, 07:12 AM

bump for update...

Deej · 06-17-2006, 07:20 AM

clips dont work on my end.....weirdest shit I've ever seen....

gallery looks all well n dandy, link works, but the clips go to some jibber jab, like unformatted code for a movie or some shit....on a page....did someone spike my coffee?

wdforty · 06-17-2006, 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deej

clips dont work on my end.....weirdest shit I've ever seen....

gallery looks all well n dandy, link works, but the clips go to some jibber jab, like unformatted code for a movie or some shit....on a page....did someone spike my coffee?

you're right. clips load in ascii

Deej · 06-17-2006, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdforty

you're right. clips load in ascii

ascii porn is hot.....

wipe up on isle 7

mattz · 06-17-2006, 07:56 AM

bump for the update

MikesTraffic · 06-17-2006, 08:47 AM

news needed

OldSchoolJim · 06-17-2006, 09:34 AM

Hopefully Lenny pops in for an update today...i am anxious to hear how we stack up agains other tranny sites.....smaller niche though....what does everyone here think good numbers would be?

MikesTraffic · 06-17-2006, 09:39 AM

said 30 was guaranteed right?

OldSchoolJim · 06-17-2006, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikesTraffic

said 30 was guaranteed right?

Monetarily I did secure lennys gallery for 30 sales...that is not the issue....for a tranny site..what would be good #'s? in everyones modest opinion...

a REGULAR site may see 30...but 30 tranny sales? think its possible?
does the HUN really have enough tranny traffic to do it??

Are we capable of converting low enough to hit that #???

Guess we will wait on Lenny and decide.....

MikesTraffic · 06-17-2006, 09:50 AM

You know Jim that is a very good quesiton, Lenny we need you!

pornguy · 06-17-2006, 10:38 AM

Bunp for a response.

John69 · 06-17-2006, 10:42 AM

if the vids dont work look for 10 sales max

OldSchoolJim · 06-17-2006, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John69

if the vids dont work look for 10 sales max

Was already at 10 last night i believe......the trannies are HOT...tranny surfers cant RESIST!!

czarina · 06-17-2006, 11:11 AM

darn nice! Epic rocks!

Please let us know how it goes, I'd love to see how it converts. Thanx for sharing this with us.

Taboo · 06-17-2006, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EpicJim

Monetarily I did secure lennys gallery for 30 sales...that is not the issue....for a tranny site..what would be good #'s? in everyones modest opinion...

a REGULAR site may see 30...but 30 tranny sales? think its possible?
does the HUN really have enough tranny traffic to do it??.

Good point, but have you looked into why the videos DON'T work.

Just tried dl-ing videos in firefox and after seeing all the ascii garbage, it crashed my ff browser.

I'm not going to bother checking in IE... but maybe you should. it will definitely have an impact on this challenge...

.

Tempest · 06-17-2006, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EpicJim

a REGULAR site may see 30...but 30 tranny sales? think its possible?
does the HUN really have enough tranny traffic to do it??

The Hun seems to list quite a few tranny galleries (non paid) so I suspect they do...

Need to fix the Firefox Video problem though.

OldSchoolJim · 06-17-2006, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taboo

Good point, but have you looked into why the videos DON'T work.

Just tried dl-ing videos in firefox and after seeing all the ascii garbage, it crashed my ff browser.

I'm not going to bother checking in IE... but maybe you should. it will definitely have an impact on this challenge...

.

We simply host the gallery for Lenny...his people made it and zipped it up...we just uploaded it for him....so i believe that would be the gallery designers job...

scotty2hotty1111 · 06-17-2006, 05:01 PM

thats easy money with the hun

tony286 · 06-17-2006, 05:10 PM

If somebody is just buying spots on the hun y doesnt the program just do it that themselves? Curious

Reak AGV · 06-17-2006, 05:17 PM

Gallery was listed as ''babe'' as said by Lenny while it's a Tranny gallery. Gallery didn't load too quick aswell on my side & crashed as soon I clicked on a video. Would surprise me if it hits 20 sales even

aico · 06-17-2006, 05:25 PM

10 tranny sales for videos that don't work is pretty good IMO.

V_RocKs · 06-17-2006, 05:30 PM

I hope Lenny gets on and fixes that shit... I'd like to see this shit play out on an even playing field.

Kudos to Epiccash for puting their money where their mouth is.

By 2007 any sponsor not promoted by Lenny will be assed out?

justsexxx · 06-17-2006, 05:33 PM

Galleries do work here(IE+WMP)

V_RocKs · 06-17-2006, 05:37 PM

One thing I was thinking about on these challenges though...

A sponsor who wants to look good just has to credit Lenny 15 signups more than anyone else gave him and walla, they get a massive amount of good publicity and a lot of whales coming on board to try them out.

Would be nice to have an independent view of the transactions... Like a processor coming on and making sure the sales weren't generated by the sponsors admin panel.

I am in no way saying Hundies or Epic would do such a thing, but I am one of them paranoya peeps.

V_RocKs · 06-17-2006, 05:38 PM

I also wanted to ask Epic, Lenny isn't paying for the traffic correct? It is hosted by you? Can we all do the same thing?

GigoloMason · 06-17-2006, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lenny2

You don't think Quickbuck got a ton of great PR and some new TGP webmasters promoting them after the last go around?

Everybody wins in this deal.

Exactly. But all they're doing is buying PR.

Anyone who thinks you could ever get an honest number over something like this is dilluting themselves.

Really since a program can credit you joins why would they not? If they have to pay you for 30 joins anyway who on earth would put up with the bad PR of saying "our bad" rather then just giving you the same amount of money internally?

Sure, you've found a way to guarantee your money. Great. It doesn't change the fact that these publicity stunts are misleading.

georgeyw · 06-17-2006, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GigoloMason

Exactly. But all they're doing is buying PR.

Anyone who thinks you could ever get an honest number over something like this is dilluting themselves.

Really since a program can credit you joins why would they not? If they have to pay you for 30 joins anyway who on earth would put up with the bad PR of saying "our bad" rather then just giving you the same amount of money internally?

Sure, you've found a way to guarantee your money. Great. It doesn't change the fact that these publicity stunts are misleading.

heh - just means that lenny had a great idea

Taboo · 06-17-2006, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GigoloMason

Exactly. But all they're doing is buying PR.

Anyone who thinks you could ever get an honest number over something like this is dilluting themselves.

Sure, you've found a way to guarantee your money. Great. It doesn't change the fact that these publicity stunts are misleading.

So, based on what you're saying it's a LOSE/LOSE situation for any Sponsor that agrees to guarantee Lenny??? if they fall under the target join# "they suck"? if they meet/exceed the #, they're blamed for reverse-shaving?

"Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

shit, so why even bother?

gotta admit, it's fun to watch the results... legit or not.

.

Snake Doctor · 06-17-2006, 08:10 PM

Wow this thread got busy in a hurry.
Sorry it's the weekend and I wasn't really following the boards.

As for the videos working, they do work fine in IE...I didn't think to check them in firefox but you guys are right they're loading in asci. I have no idea how that happened, it's not a script or anything, just a straight hyperlink to the clip. Maybe it has something to do with antihotlinking software on the server? I'm not a techie so I couldn't tell you.

Thankfully firefox is a small percentage of users, so that shouldn't hurt us too badly.

Snake Doctor · 06-17-2006, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darnit

BG color of the gallery is all black in FF. Cant read the text...

It looks fine in firefox to me. Maybe you didn't wait for the background image to load??

As for the update, we're at 17 sales now at 10pm on day 2.

Dagwolf · 06-17-2006, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lenny2

That's the only way we're going to do it from now on.

We've spent tens of thousands of dollars over the years testing out every new program under the sun only to get burned.
Most of the time we try something new and we don't even make enough sales to cover our overhead.
We have a handful of things that we KNOW we'll make a nice profit on, so in order for us to deviate from that we need to know we're not going to make less than we would if we stuck with what we have now.

Everyone "says" their sites convert like gangbusters blah blah blah, but unless they're willing to back up their words with cash I'm not listening.

Better demand cash in advance, too. :D

Snake Doctor · 06-17-2006, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404

If somebody is just buying spots on the hun y doesnt the program just do it that themselves? Curious

Because all of us are good at different things.

That's like asking why does a program need affiliates at all when they can just build and submit galleries and free sites themselves?

Or why does the hun sell spots when he could just hire people to build a bunch of galleries for him and keep all of those signups for himself?

Or if WiredGuy's search engine traffic is so good why does he sell it to traffic cash gold instead of building his own paysites and keeping 100% of the money?

We all have different areas of talent and expertise and there are only so many hours in a day. You can't do "everything", and if you try to most of it won't get done well.

Snake Doctor · 06-17-2006, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

One thing I was thinking about on these challenges though...

A sponsor who wants to look good just has to credit Lenny 15 signups more than anyone else gave him and walla, they get a massive amount of good publicity and a lot of whales coming on board to try them out.

Would be nice to have an independent view of the transactions... Like a processor coming on and making sure the sales weren't generated by the sponsors admin panel.

I am in no way saying Hundies or Epic would do such a thing, but I am one of them paranoya peeps.

Yeah but if that was the case then I'd never do less than 30 sales on one of these deals.
Right now it looks like we'll do something in the low 20's, but for this niche that's still good.
If I was promoting tranny outside of this challenge I would go for revshare, because a niche like tranny is going to retain a hell of a lot longer than teens or babes or something more mainstream like that.
While I would have gotten bigger signup numbers with a teen site or something like that, the $$ value of each signup is alot higher with a niche like tranny, so even though we're not going to do 30 signups I'm sure Epic Cash will still make out financially on this deal in the long run.

Plus regardless of the results you have to give them credit for having the cajones to make a guarantee in order to drum up new business. It shows you how hard they're willing to work to earn your traffic.

Snake Doctor · 06-17-2006, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taboo

So, based on what you're saying it's a LOSE/LOSE situation for any Sponsor that agrees to guarantee Lenny??? if they fall under the target join# "they suck"? if they meet/exceed the #, they're blamed for reverse-shaving?

"Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

shit, so why even bother?

gotta admit, it's fun to watch the results... legit or not.

.

There's always going to be paranoid people out there in their tin foil hats accusing somebody of doing something wrong.

It's like the people that think that when a sponsor does a $75 per signup day they shave half the joins in order to afford the $75 per signup.
Of course they don't realize that this would totally defeat the purpose of having a $75 day, which is to try and get new people to promote you and hopefully convert better for them than what they're using now so you can get some permanent traffic out of the deal.

Of course some people can never be convinced, it wouldn't matter if you used NATS, or CCBill's system, or had your books audited by Ghandi, they'd still think you were somehow cheating them.

Doctor Dre · 06-17-2006, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lenny2

There's always going to be paranoid people out there in their tin foil hats accusing somebody of doing something wrong.

It's like the people that think that when a sponsor does a $75 per signup day they shave half the joins in order to afford the $75 per signup.
Of course they don't realize that this would totally defeat the purpose of having a $75 day, which is to try and get new people to promote you and hopefully convert better for them than what they're using now so you can get some permanent traffic out of the deal.

Of course some people can never be convinced, it wouldn't matter if you used NATS, or CCBill's system, or had your books audited by Ghandi, they'd still think you were somehow cheating them.

I agree it would defeat the purpose... I don't really get it... but personally I've never done well on thoses days (except with AAC 100$ signup days). My friend at ARS used to get massive signup ammounts (he was in the top affiliates, most of the time 2nd in the line), and thoses days sucked for him as well sales wise... allthought he sure made more money then usual still.

Quick Buck · 06-17-2006, 08:57 PM

see sig

Farang · 06-17-2006, 09:23 PM

some interesting stats, thanks for sharing

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06-16-2006, 12:39 AM	#52
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06-16-2006, 11:29 AM	#53
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06-16-2006, 04:30 PM	#56
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06-17-2006, 05:28 AM	#63
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06-17-2006, 07:20 AM	#65
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06-17-2006, 07:56 AM	#68
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06-17-2006, 09:34 AM	#70
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06-17-2006, 09:39 AM	#71
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06-17-2006, 09:50 AM	#73
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06-17-2006, 05:17 PM	#83
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06-17-2006, 05:25 PM	#84
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06-17-2006, 05:30 PM	#85
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,409	I hope Lenny gets on and fixes that shit... I'd like to see this shit play out on an even playing field. Kudos to Epiccash for puting their money where their mouth is. By 2007 any sponsor not promoted by Lenny will be assed out?

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06-17-2006, 05:37 PM	#87
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,409	One thing I was thinking about on these challenges though... A sponsor who wants to look good just has to credit Lenny 15 signups more than anyone else gave him and walla, they get a massive amount of good publicity and a lot of whales coming on board to try them out. Would be nice to have an independent view of the transactions... Like a processor coming on and making sure the sales weren't generated by the sponsors admin panel. I am in no way saying Hundies or Epic would do such a thing, but I am one of them paranoya peeps.

06-17-2006, 05:38 PM	#88
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,409	I also wanted to ask Epic, Lenny isn't paying for the traffic correct? It is hosted by you? Can we all do the same thing?

06-17-2006, 08:10 PM	#92
Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	Wow this thread got busy in a hurry. Sorry it's the weekend and I wasn't really following the boards. As for the videos working, they do work fine in IE...I didn't think to check them in firefox but you guys are right they're loading in asci. I have no idea how that happened, it's not a script or anything, just a straight hyperlink to the clip. Maybe it has something to do with antihotlinking software on the server? I'm not a techie so I couldn't tell you. Thankfully firefox is a small percentage of users, so that shouldn't hurt us too badly.

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