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Old 05-15-2002, 05:41 PM   #1
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Packin Heat

Anyone here pack some heat??
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Old 05-15-2002, 05:43 PM   #2
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Anyone here pack some heat??
yep. evereytime I have anything with beans in it.
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Old 05-15-2002, 05:44 PM   #3
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Anyone here pack some heat??
If you are talking about firearms then the answer is yes. If this is a set up for some sort of a joke about being gay then the answer is no.....except for Snow. He can answer yes in either case.
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Licensed, and always locked and loaded.

Fuckin' guy (in the army) tried to steal a magnetic flag off my Explorer 2 weeks ago at a night club. We got into a bump and then the girls on both sides got into a yelling frenzy. This red neck chick pulled out a 5 inch blade so I pulled out my Glock. PROBLEM SOLVED.

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Old 05-15-2002, 05:46 PM   #5
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If you are talking about firearms then the answer is yes. If this is a set up for some sort of a joke about being gay then the answer is no.....except for Snow. He can answer yes in either case.
I concur.
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If you are talking about firearms then the answer is yes. If this is a set up for some sort of a joke about being gay then the answer is no.....except for Snow. He can answer yes in either case.
Aaron - the question was about firearms I know when we had dinner in Vegas last month that it was clear that you did - when the waitress made you check your shotgun at the front - that was a bit extreme
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Licensed, and always locked and loaded.

Fuckin' guy (in the army) tried to steal a magnetic flag off my Explorer 2 weeks ago at a night club. We got into a bump and then the girls on both sides got into a yelling frenzy. This red neck chick pulled out a 5 inch blade so I pulled out my Glock. PROBLEM SOLVED.

"Never bring a knife to a gun fight!"

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A story like this further goes to reinforce why I live in Canada.

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Licensed, and always locked and loaded.

Fuckin' guy (in the army) tried to steal a magnetic flag off my Explorer 2 weeks ago at a night club. We got into a bump and then the girls on both sides got into a yelling frenzy. This red neck chick pulled out a 5 inch blade so I pulled out my Glock. PROBLEM SOLVED.

"Never bring a knife to a gun fight!"

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Did you use the weapon or just flash it like a bitch? I have had to pull mine twice. You could ask the fuckers what happened but they are not saying much these days.

If you pull it, use it or leave it at home.

On the flip side, I have had MANY guns pulled on or around me. It is not often that the bitch who is pulling it has the balls or competence to use it in the first place. Granted, I do not live in South Central L.A.
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Aaron - the question was about firearms I know when we had dinner in Vegas last month that it was clear that you did - when the waitress made you check your shotgun at the front - that was a bit extreme
LOL, I know the .50cal D.E. is a big gun but it is not a shotgun by any stretch of the imagination.
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Old 05-15-2002, 06:02 PM   #11
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Is this serious, guys in the states really must have small dicks if they need guns to fell like a man.

And to admit you have had to pull it out, TWICE, how pathetic.

Learn to fly a kite or something.
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Is this serious, guys in the states really must have small dicks if they need guns to fell like a man.

And to admit you have had to pull it out, TWICE, how pathetic.

Learn to fly a kite or something.
I had two dumbasses come at me one night. One had a bat, one had a tire iron. They pulled their car in behind mine so I couldn't leave and bailed out. I stepped out with my Sig Sauer P226. Tell me...what do you think would have happened to me had I not been armed? It's too bad that people in your country don't have the right to defend themselves.

In a perfect world, it would all be fist fights. Sometimes things don't go that way.
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Old 05-15-2002, 06:14 PM   #14
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Is this serious, guys in the states really must have small dicks if they need guns to fell like a man.

And to admit you have had to pull it out, TWICE, how pathetic.

Learn to fly a kite or something.

Amazing, I now understand why the US has to babysit Canada from being conquered by superpower's such as greenland. Is testosterone illegal up there? gimme yer address, my GF has a dress that isnt slutty enuff for her, ill mail it up to you.
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Amazing, I now understand why the US has to babysit Canada from being conquered by superpower's such as greenland. Is testosterone illegal up there? gimme yer address, my GF has a dress that isnt slutty enuff for her, ill mail it up to you.
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Old 05-15-2002, 06:30 PM   #16
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226 is very nice!
My favorite is my SIG Sauer P229, also carry S&W .38 Special Airweight. I have a permit to carry legally.
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I am not canadian just live here

I am British where every fight involving a weapon is a bitch fight.
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226 is very nice!
My favorite is my SIG Sauer P229, also carry S&W .38 Special Airweight. I have a permit to carry legally.
At the time I worked for a security company so I had a permit to carry also. Unfortunately, the company that I worked for required us to carry 9mm. I have a P229 in 357 SIG. Just got some Tritium sights stuck in it. I love it. For my house gun, I still use a Mossberg Persuader 12 GA. I have had that shotgun for ages and wouldn't trust anything else...not to mention, 00 buckshot doesn't lack stopping power.
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I must say that I am a true beliver of GUNS.

They have saved my life many times.

I miss living in Washington. I have a permit to carry ALL my guns.
HAHAHAHAH!

Prefer to carry the Glock 23 compact 40 with plus 2's pre-ban

A beretta .22 backup.

Of course the safe is filled with My CZ AK-47, AR-15, MP-5, Shotguns, 30-30, 30-06, and Ruger 10-22
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I am British where every fight involving a weapon is a bitch fight.
So you're saying I am a bitch for defending myself against a couple of assholes who would have beaten me to death had I not been armed?
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Aarron you carry a D.E. around with you? hehe DAMN

I tried that for like 3 days, sholder started killing me. ;-))
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Is this serious, guys in the states really must have small dicks if they need guns to fell like a man.

And to admit you have had to pull it out, TWICE, how pathetic.

Learn to fly a kite or something.
Blow me ya cocksucker. Until you know EVERYTHING about my past then you have no right to judge.
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Aarron you carry a D.E. around with you? hehe DAMN

I tried that for like 3 days, sholder started killing me. ;-))
Not often but yes...on occasion I do.
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Where I live and my occupation with the government, I need to carry my G19 on a regular basis, plus too many damn Canadians around here too.
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Did you use the weapon or just flash it like a bitch? I have had to pull mine twice. You could ask the fuckers what happened but they are not saying much these days.

If you pull it, use it or leave it at home.

On the flip side, I have had MANY guns pulled on or around me. It is not often that the bitch who is pulling it has the balls or competence to use it in the first place. Granted, I do not live in South Central L.A.
A bitch?? easy tough guy... A bitch would shoot first and ask later. I would never shoot anyone if it wasn't necessary. Especially a woman.

You know nothing about me my friend. I'm sure we could both tell some good stories. You're not talking to a pussy here.

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Amazing, I now understand why the US has to babysit Canada from being conquered by superpower's such as greenland.
If I recall correctly didn't you guys try to invade us once before and you ended up getting your beloved White House burned to the ground.

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A bitch?? easy tough guy... A bitch would shoot first and ask later. I would never shoot anyone if it wasn't necessary. Especially a woman.

You know nothing about me my friend. I'm sure we could both tell some good stories. You're not talking to a pussy here.

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At the time...In my world it was shot or be shot. Call me a bitch if you like but I am alive and that is all that matters to me. So tell me tough guy... If a guy shoots one of your best friends, right in front of you, and then starts to turn the gun towards you.... What would you do? Offer him some jelly beans?
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Yes, we are sissies here in Canada and we dont' have the right to defend ourselves?! HAHAHA Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight! The ignorance floating around in this thread amazes me. Just a thought, could it BE that because you are all so busy buying guns to "defend yourselves" that potential predators are also busy buying guns as well? Hmmmm do you have to fill out a form that asks your intentions with the gun?

Please choose what you will use your fire arm for:
A. Defending myself
B. Car jacking and other fun stuff

Doesnt' the fact that you can access guns so easily to defend yourselves, make you wonder where all the bad guys get the guns that you need to defend yourself FROM?!
Last I heard, your gun control laws are whacked and vary from state to state. My friend just bought a machine gun in Nevada, no cooling off period, no back ground check, they didn't even ask for ID and this was at a GUN SHOW.

I have nothing against it, shit i went to the shooting range twice in Vegas, took pictures and everything! Walked in, signed a waiver, bought my rounds, went back to the range with a machine gun and after a 90 second intro you too can be the happy shooter of a machine gun! I had a good time, was a bit freaked by the dad with his 2 kids under 10 shooting in there as well.

I'm VERY happy visiting the US, and I'm VERY happy living in Canada. All you Canada bashers can just go fuck yourselves! HAHAHA

Just a thought, but WHY are all of you being attacked all the damn time! Where the hell are you hanging out?! WHY does everyone need to defend themselves?!

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I'm just curious what your fuckin' problem is with me? Just a question.
My problem is not with just you but since you asked...I have a beef with ANY pussy assed mother fucker who thinks he is tough shit because he owns a gun and thinks it is ok to pull it when shit gets hot. If I had been there and was not armed myself, I would have taken your gun from you and knock the shit out of you with it. Guns are not to be taken lightly and if you pull it then you better fucking intend to use it. If you do not then you are only endangering more lives with your own actions.

There have been many occasions where I could have pulled mine to diffuse a situation but I found other ways. If some bitch has a knife out, big deal. If she is trying to kill another person then put 2 in her chest, one in the head, and call it a day.

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....My friend just bought a machine gun in Nevada, no cooling off period, no back ground check, they didn't even ask for ID and this was at a GUN SHOW.....
Either you or your friend are full of shit. I do not care what state you are in. Class 3 weapons (Machine Guns) are governed by Federal jurisdictions and ID is required along with one hell of a background check. Let?s not forget the finger printing and Federal stamp that are required for such a weapon.
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I know a guy who used to carry a .50 cal DE to work.

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My friend just bought a machine gun...
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Proof please as I know abit about how tough it can be to do this... First off NO non US residents can purchase fully aitomatic weapons AND you must have a 3rd class FFL to own one IF you ARE a US citizen and trust in this... you don't get those at Walmarts.

My old man is rotfl at such a statement. He wants to see the proof even more than I do.

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My problem is not with just you but since you asked...I have a beef with ANY pussy assed mother fucker who thinks he is tough shit because he owns a gun and thinks it is ok to pull it when shit gets hot. If I hade been there and was not armed myself, I would have taken your gun from you and knock the shit out of you with it. Guns are not to be taken lightly and if you pull it then you better fucking intend to use it. If you do not then you are only endangering more lives with your own actions.

There have been many occasions where I could have pulled mine to diffuse a situation but I found other ways. If some bitch has a knife out, big deal. If she is trying to kill another person then put 2 in her chest, one in the head, and call it a day.
You don't even know me and you talk all this shit. Believe me you wouldn't have taken shit from me if you weren't armed. If someone pulls a knife and comes at me you better fuckin' believe their gonna take a hit. If someone pulls a knife and I pull a gun and they back off I'm not gonna cap them. Plain and simple. You weren't there, you don't know shit about that situation... blah blah blah... If it was me and her that's one thing. It was 4 guys and her and me and my wife. Worry about yourself bro. I'm am trained to use my firearm so you don't know what you're talking about in regards to this situation. The most important thing for me is to go home, I'm not trying to be a hollywood tough guy...
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Let?s not forget the finger printing and Federal stamp that are required for such a weapon.

Don't leave out the part about the ATF dropping in for a visit to check the weapon/s without prior notice. lol
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You don't even know me and you talk all this shit. Believe me you wouldn't have taken shit from me if you weren't armed. If someone pulls a knife and comes at me you better fuckin' believe their gonna take a hit. If someone pulls a knife and I pull a gun and they back off I'm not gonna cap them. Plain and simple. You weren't there, you don't know shit about that situation... blah blah blah... If it was me and her that's one thing. It was 4 guys and her and me and my wife. Worry about yourself bro. I'm am trained to use my firearm so you don't know what you're talking about in regards to this situation. The most important thing for me is to go home, I'm not trying to be a hollywood tough guy...
Fuck Hollywood. My point is that you seem to think that it is ok to pull when there is not intent to use. Why bother? Was there no other way to handle this? I don't fuck around. It's that simple.

Anybody who sees this first hand is not having a good day.


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Old 05-15-2002, 11:32 PM   #40
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Let?s not forget the finger printing and Federal stamp that are required for such a weapon.

Don't leave out the part about the ATF dropping in for a visit to check the weapon/s without prior notice. lol
Very true. Any time they want, they can knock on the door. Of course since the guy in question did not have to show ID then the feds do not know where he lives.
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Old 05-15-2002, 11:34 PM   #41
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Old 05-15-2002, 11:39 PM   #42
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I had to pour 4 ozs of whiskey down the old mans throat to get him to quit laffing about wandering alien visitors buying machine guns. Especially when most so called machine guns are actually SUBmachine guns.

That question should be the poser... who knows the difference?!?

But yes I guess you could buy one oit of some ones car trunk... now sneaking it back in to another country could be a little tough... Legally?! Not a freaking chance .
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I had to pour 4 ozs of whiskey down the old mans throat to get him to quit laffing about wandering alien visitors buying machine guns. Especially when most so called machine guns are actually SUBmachine guns.

That question should be the poser... who knows the difference?!?

But yes I guess you could buy one oit of some ones car trunk... now sneaking it back in to another country could be a little tough... Legally?! Not a freaking chance .
In shann's defense....There was no mention of the friend being from another country. We know it is B.S. anyway but the friend could be a US citizen as well as a liar.
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Old 05-15-2002, 11:51 PM   #44
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Aaron... I was just sort of hoping a US citizen wouldn't be spouting such drivel. Alas, I know many do but can't fault a girl for hoping!

Sad thing is, pre 1994 I might have halfway believed that statement. This old man has brought all sorts of knowledge to me as well as some of those nasty things that go burp and shake alot until you learn how to hold on to them.
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Ok Aaron... I know exactly what kind of person you are talking about. If there was another way to diffuse the situation I would. If I had been alone I probably would have handled it differently. If I am taking care of someone then I won't take chances.

I've used a firearm in self defense twice up in NYC when I was involved in high risk business(legal) and I wasn't shooting into the air.

This is the first time I've pulled it out in 5 years and if that knife had come at me or one of the dudes had grabbed it I had every intent of using the gun. Pulling the piece out was a reaction and I would never hesitate to use it, with just cause. One of the guys with her was a cocky fuckin' cop and he was the one instigating at first. They were all drunk and I was drinking cokes all night because I was sick. My judgement was very clear.

I know what you're saying and I agree with your point that guns should be taken seriously. I also believe that a gun can be used as a deterent when you are dealing with a situation that could get out of control. I never start shit it's always the other way around in public but I will always keep the upper hand when trouble shows it's face.....

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I have a badass Super Soaker, and if anyone tries to mess with me I just shoot them in the crotch, then everyone will think they pissed their pants and they'll be really embarassed....and that would be the end of that little confrontation!

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Ok Aaron... I know exactly what kind of person you are talking about. If there was another way to diffuse the situation I would. If I had been alone I probably would have handled it differently. If I am taking care of someone then I won't take chances.

I've used a firearm in self defense twice up in NYC when I was involved in high risk business(legal) and I wasn't shooting into the air.

This is the first time I've pulled it out in 5 years and if that knife had come at me or one of the dudes had grabbed it I had every intent of using the gun. Pulling the piece out was a reaction and I would never hesitate to use it, with just cause. One of the guys with her was a cocky fuckin' cop and he was the one instigating at first. They were all drunk and I was drinking cokes all night because I was sick. My judgement was very clear.

I know what you're saying and I agree with your point that guns should be taken seriously. I also believe that a gun can be used as a deterent when you are dealing with a situation that could get out of control. I never start shit it's always the other way around in public but I will always keep the upper hand when trouble shows it's face.....

Peace.
Fair enough.

"I've used a firearm in self defense twice up in NYC when I was involved in high risk business(legal) and I wasn't shooting into the air."

Sounds a bit like my past.
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Here we go!

Originally posted by shann
Yes, we are sissies here in Canada and we dont' have the right to defend ourselves?!

correct!

Just a thought, could it BE that because you are all so busy buying guns to "defend yourselves" that potential predators are also busy buying guns as well?

No shit! The only difference is "potential predators" buy them on the street illegally.

Hmmmm do you have to fill out a form that asks your intentions with the gun?

You have no concept of the shit you have to go thru to get a pistol legally in the US. (depending on the state) In mass you are treated like a registered sex offender, if i decide to move out of town i have to notify 3 law enforcement agency's. A registered sex offender only has to notify the town he moves into.

Please choose what you will use your fire arm for:
A. Defending myself
B. Car jacking and other fun stuff


My licence says "all lawful purposes" which means what the fuck ever I decide I want to use it for. But to simplify this for you. Group A buys them legally and goes thru all the retarded laws.
Group B buy them stolen or smuggled into the country on the street.

Doesnt' the fact that you can access guns so easily to defend yourselves, make you wonder where all the bad guys get the guns that you need to defend yourself FROM?!

Ya, smuggled in/stolen.

Last I heard, your gun control laws are whacked and vary from state to state.

uh huh, and a 50% income tax is whacked too. point?

My friend just bought a machine gun in Nevada, no cooling off period, no back ground check, they didn't even ask for ID and this was at a GUN SHOW.

Ok, grab a shovel and put on some waders, the bullshit's flying here. On another note, i called mistress cleo, she told me alyssa milano's going to walk thru my door naked and fuck me in 2 hours, i cant wait.

I have nothing against it, shit i went to the shootin
g range twice in Vegas, took pictures and everything! Walked in, signed a waiver, bought my rounds, went back to the range with a machine gun and after a 90 second intro you too can be the happy shooter of a machine gun!


Club licence. Try to walk away with the gun, see what happens next.

I had a good time, was a bit freaked by the dad with his 2 kids under 10 shooting in there as well.

ya, thats fucked up, kids should think that guns are exaxtly what they show in the cartoons, ya shoot the talking duck, he gets up missing feathers and says something witty. I have every intention of taking my kids out in the woods and showing them exactly what guns do, why they're not fucking toys, and the fucking duck does NOT get up after being shot.

I'm VERY happy visiting the US, and I'm VERY happy living in Canada. All you Canada bashers can just go fuck yourselves! HAHAHA

Ya, I'd love to be up there, 50% income tax, 10$ for a pack of cigs, armed with a can of oven cleaner for the guy thats breaking into my house for crack money, oh ya, and french everywhere. But, i can only dream.

Just a thought, but WHY are all of you being attacked all the damn time! Where the hell are you hanging out?! WHY does everyone need to defend themselves?!

The world is a violent place, welcome to reality, enjoy your stay.

Ya, why defend yourself, just bend over and take it like a bitch.
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Here we go!

Originally posted by shann
Yes, we are sissies here in Canada and we dont' have the right to defend ourselves?!

correct!

Just a thought, could it BE that because you are all so busy buying guns to "defend yourselves" that potential predators are also busy buying guns as well?

No shit! The only difference is "potential predators" buy them on the street illegally.

Hmmmm do you have to fill out a form that asks your intentions with the gun?

You have no concept of the shit you have to go thru to get a pistol legally in the US. (depending on the state) In mass you are treated like a registered sex offender, if i decide to move out of town i have to notify 3 law enforcement agency's. A registered sex offender only has to notify the town he moves into.

Please choose what you will use your fire arm for:
A. Defending myself
B. Car jacking and other fun stuff


My licence says "all lawful purposes" which means what the fuck ever I decide I want to use it for. But to simplify this for you. Group A buys them legally and goes thru all the retarded laws.
Group B buy them stolen or smuggled into the country on the street.

Doesnt' the fact that you can access guns so easily to defend yourselves, make you wonder where all the bad guys get the guns that you need to defend yourself FROM?!

Ya, smuggled in/stolen.

Last I heard, your gun control laws are whacked and vary from state to state.

uh huh, and a 50% income tax is whacked too. point?

My friend just bought a machine gun in Nevada, no cooling off period, no back ground check, they didn't even ask for ID and this was at a GUN SHOW.

Ok, grab a shovel and put on some waders, the bullshit's flying here. On another note, i called mistress cleo, she told me alyssa milano's going to walk thru my door naked and fuck me in 2 hours, i cant wait.

I have nothing against it, shit i went to the shootin
g range twice in Vegas, took pictures and everything! Walked in, signed a waiver, bought my rounds, went back to the range with a machine gun and after a 90 second intro you too can be the happy shooter of a machine gun!


Club licence. Try to walk away with the gun, see what happens next.

I had a good time, was a bit freaked by the dad with his 2 kids under 10 shooting in there as well.

ya, thats fucked up, kids should think that guns are exaxtly what they show in the cartoons, ya shoot the talking duck, he gets up missing feathers and says something witty. I have every intention of taking my kids out in the woods and showing them exactly what guns do, why they're not fucking toys, and the fucking duck does NOT get up after being shot.

I'm VERY happy visiting the US, and I'm VERY happy living in Canada. All you Canada bashers can just go fuck yourselves! HAHAHA

Ya, I'd love to be up there, 50% income tax, 10$ for a pack of cigs, armed with a can of oven cleaner for the guy thats breaking into my house for crack money, oh ya, and french everywhere. But, i can only dream.

Just a thought, but WHY are all of you being attacked all the damn time! Where the hell are you hanging out?! WHY does everyone need to defend themselves?!

The world is a violent place, welcome to reality, enjoy your stay.

Ya, why defend yourself, just bend over and take it like a bitch.
LMFAO!

That was well worth the time to read. Thanks bro.
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