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AmateurFlix 05-01-2006 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by escorpio
If I ever meet you I'll help you get even more it touch by beating the teeth out of your head then skull fucking your cock hungry face. :)

Ah, so you also want to put your dick inside of another man. Now your problem is becoming clearer. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

You can blame the nasty gringos all you want for your own problems escorpia, but it lies within yourself.

escorpio 05-01-2006 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by AmateurFlix
You support theft and try to hide behind some feel good nonsense about compassion when you're not busy yelling 'racist' or 'xenophobe'. You say anything that you think might get you your way. Your kind always ends up losing, because your type is a loser. That's cold hard reality slapping you in the face.

Looks like you're the one that's lost this battle. You're just to stupid to know it yet.
http://www.jtf.org/sss.aztlan.america.gif


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Originally Posted by AmateurFlix
Escorpia, the little keyboard warrior, showing your true colors again. Someday if you try real hard you might learn how civilized people behave with one another. Then maybe, just maybe escorpia you might learn what it is to be a man.

You're the keyboard warrior, talking shit on the internet you would NEVER say to my face. Look my up when you come down to the border with your Minutemen friends. Pussy. :1orglaugh

escorpio 05-01-2006 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by AmateurFlix
Ah, so you also want to put your dick inside of another man. Now your problem is becoming clearer. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

You're not a man. A real man doesn't say shit on the keyboard he wouldn't say to man's face.

escorpio 05-01-2006 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by AmateurFlix
You can blame the nasty gringos all you want for your own problems escorpia, but it lies within yourself.

No problemas aqui. Soy un rico norteamericano. :)

AmateurFlix 05-01-2006 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by escorpio
You're not a man. A real man doesn't say shit on the keyboard he wouldn't say to man's face.

You said that you want to engage in homosexual sex.
Now you are trying to tell me that I am not a man :1orglaugh

escorpio 05-01-2006 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by AmateurFlix
You said that you want to engage in homosexual sex.
Now you are trying to tell me that I am not a man :1orglaugh

Homosexual rape is a great way to let a bitch know he's a bitch. Trick I learned in prison. :winkwink:

Tom_PM 05-01-2006 08:54 AM

escorpio, what are you talking about? Illegal immigration? Immigration? Or a war on the american southwest?

I'm confused :)

AmateurFlix 05-01-2006 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by escorpio
Homosexual rape is a great way to let a bitch know he's a bitch. Trick I learned in prison. :winkwink:

LOL
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh
It sounds like you learned it the hard way, by being on the receiving end

I said before that if you tried real hard, someday you might learn what it is like to be civilized, and to be a man. I was wrong, you will never know these things.

Keep up the good work dipshit, I'm sure you've won yourself a ton of supporters in this thread :thumbsup

escorpio 05-01-2006 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom
escorpio, what are you talking about? Illegal immigration? Immigration? Or a war on the american southwest?

I'm confused :)

O.K., I'm getting a little mouthy with this punk ass bitch and confusing the issue and my stance so let me break it down...

I am against illegal immigration, but I understand why it is happening and that nothing can stop it as long as such wide economic disparity exists between two neighboring countries. I support laws making it easier for guest workers to enter the U.S.A. legally and amnesty for those already here.

E$_manager 05-01-2006 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by AmateurFlix
Exactly. The problem is that the laws do not provide punishment commensurate to the crimes that are being committed.

What is being discussed by our government is turning these into felony offenses so that the violators would not be treated so kindly. The laws and the consequences of breaking these laws are not effective against these people. When most visitors come to the USA they behave as most visitors do when travelling to any foreign country. They are grateful for being received and abide by the laws of the country they enter.

These people do not.

Therefore they need to be dealt with more severely.


Any suggestions?

escorpio 05-01-2006 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by AmateurFlix
LOL
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I said before that if you tried real hard, someday you might learn what it is like to be civilized, and to be a man. I was wrong, you will never know these things.

:1orglaugh Says the in touch with his feminine side shit talking keyboard warrior.


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Originally Posted by AmateurFlix
Keep up the good work dipshit, I'm sure you've won yourself a ton of supporters in this thread :thumbsup

I don't need supporters in a stupid internet thread. You think you've furthered your cause talking shit on a message board? :1orglaugh When do you plan on coming down and defending your border with the Minutemen? Don't forget your XXXXL camoflage t-shirt. :1orglaugh

AmateurFlix 05-01-2006 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Cristie
Any suggestions?

Sure, just what the government is trying to pass into law now... turning this into a felony offense so that it's not viewed as a little game to be played by the illegals. They also want to secure the border with a wall. It's all really quite simple, those don't like the idea try to make it out to be a big complex issue though when it is not.

Drake 05-01-2006 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief
Yeah you can overthrow whole nations and setup revolutionary Governments in hostile parts of the world, but you can't stop people from crossing your border. God America is destined to be a cesspool, it's almost amazing how a nation with such material wealth can have such a vast lack of intelligence.

What would you suggest as a solution?

escorpio 05-01-2006 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by AmateurFlix
Sure, just what the government is trying to pass into law now... turning this into a felony offense so that it's not viewed as a little game to be played by the illegals. They also want to secure the border with a wall. It's all really quite simple, those don't like the idea try to make it out to be a big complex issue though when it is not.

Yes, building and maintaining a 2,000 mile long impenetrable wall is a simple undertaking to those with simple minds.

seven 05-01-2006 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief
Yeah you can overthrow whole nations and setup revolutionary Governments in hostile parts of the world, but you can't stop people from crossing your border. God America is destined to be a cesspool, it's almost amazing how a nation with such material wealth can have such a vast lack of intelligence.

Yeah tell me about it. Instead of spending a trillion dollars in a fruitless country Iraq we could spend it on Mexico to better their lives and kill the need for illegal immigration but hey! who cares about illegals lets spend another few trillions on Iran instead. Fuck mexicans lets free Iranians! :helpme

TurboAngel 05-01-2006 09:10 AM

Ok I haven't said a word about this so hear it goes......my great grand parents came over here on the boat to Ellis Island. They came from Italy and didn't speak English but they sure as hell learned and made this country better. He ran the town store and was the the mayor of a small town called Roseto PA. If it wasn't for him most of the people would have starved during the depression. They also became LEAGAL immigrants.

http://www.city-data.com/city/Roseto-Pennsylvania.html

escorpio 05-01-2006 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by TurboAngel
Ok I haven't said a word about this so hear it goes......my great grand parents came over here on the boat to Ellis Island. They came from Italy and didn't speak English but they sure as hell learned and made this country better. He ran the town store and was the the mayor of a small town called Roseto PA. If it wasn't for him most of the people would have starved during the depression. They also became LEAGAL immigrants.

http://www.city-data.com/city/Roseto-Pennsylvania.html

Good for them. Much respect. :thumbsup

How do you feel about allowing others the opportunity that was granted your great-grandparents?

AmateurFlix 05-01-2006 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by escorpio
:1orglaugh Says the in touch with his feminine side shit talking keyboard warrior.

hehe, you can think whatever you want of me or imagine me an easy target or something if that settles your little mind... if you saw me in person, you'd likely have a very different opinion though, I'm not really somone you'd probably want to tangle with. I'm not one to threaten people over the internet, so I'll just leave it at that.

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I don't need supporters in a stupid internet thread. You think you've furthered your cause talking shit on a message board?
Well you're the one that keeps bringing this stuff up on a message board, so if you did not mention it for support of your cause then for what? I've exposed you for what you are here, do you think your opinions will be taken seriously by anyone who has read this now? Do you think people reading this will take others who share your view with the same consideration as before now?

I'm done with you now. :321GFY

seven 05-01-2006 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by AmateurFlix
Sure, just what the government is trying to pass into law now... turning this into a felony offense so that it's not viewed as a little game to be played by the illegals. They also want to secure the border with a wall. It's all really quite simple, those don't like the idea try to make it out to be a big complex issue though when it is not.

You are not following the news are you? gov is not trying to pass it anymore. senate bill doesn't include that at all.. too bad for people who wants running redlights be turned into felony crimes :Oh crap :1orglaugh

KRL 05-01-2006 09:16 AM

http://www.jtf.org/sss.aztlan.america.gif

Bienvenidos to the United States of Mexico.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

AmateurFlix 05-01-2006 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by seven
You are not following the news are you? gov is not trying to pass it anymore. senate bill doesn't include that at all.. too bad for people who wants running redlights be turned into felony crimes :Oh crap :1orglaugh

I watched the news this morning. The same laws are being drafted up again in a new proposal. This time they'll probably have more support due to the 'mexicans not working and being truant' day

E$_manager 05-01-2006 09:20 AM

The wall may be an efficient action, but it sounds really funny to me.
Imagin if America would deside to build a wall with Canada. Hehehe

seven 05-01-2006 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by AmateurFlix
I watched the news this morning. The same laws are being drafted up again in a new proposal. This time they'll probably have more support due to the 'mexicans not working and being truant' day

Got any URL where I could get updated on that issue? I'm watching news as i'm posting here no mention of any such :(

AmateurFlix 05-01-2006 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by seven
Got any URL where I could get updated on that issue? I'm watching news as i'm posting here no mention of any such :(

it was on cnbc on the television broadcast. I don't have an url for it.

escorpio 05-01-2006 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by AmateurFlix
hehe, you can think whatever you want of me or imagine me an easy target or something if that settles your little mind... if you saw me in person, you'd likely have a very different opinion though, I'm not really somone you'd probably want to tangle with. I'm not one to threaten people over the internet, so I'll just leave it at that.

I could say the same thing. :)


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Originally Posted by AmateurFlix
Well you're the one that keeps bringing this stuff up on a message board, so if you did not mention it for support of your cause then for what? I've exposed you for what you are here, do you think your opinions will be taken seriously by anyone who has read this now? Do you think people reading this will take others who share your view with the same consideration as before now?

Don't need GFY support. Tengo La Raza en mi lado, baby! :)

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Originally Posted by AmateurFlix
I'm done with you now. :321GFY

Good. Our discussion has degraded into name calling and that's something better done face to face. Let me know when you in the border region of Arizona and we can pick it up then. You ARE going to come down and help out with the defense of the border, right? Or are you just a keyboard warrior? :1orglaugh

Tom_PM 05-01-2006 09:32 AM

I cant support amnesty or a guest worker program, but I am all for improving the speed at which people can emigrate and become full American citizens. That way we can all share in the burden as taxpayers, all have the right to vote, and all gain the benefits of being a full citizen.

E$_manager 05-01-2006 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom
I cant support amnesty or a guest worker program, but I am all for improving the speed at which people can emigrate and become full American citizens. That way we can all share in the burden as taxpayers, all have the right to vote, and all gain the benefits of being a full citizen.

Government should work on the legislation. No doubt.

escorpio 05-01-2006 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom
I cant support amnesty or a guest worker program, but I am all for improving the speed at which people can emigrate and become full American citizens. That way we can all share in the burden as taxpayers, all have the right to vote, and all gain the benefits of being a full citizen.

I can respect that. No matter what the change, change is necessary. :thumbsup

E$_manager 05-01-2006 09:56 AM

The same problem is in Europe.
So America is not alone in the difficulties connected with changes needed.

Drake 05-01-2006 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom
I cant support amnesty or a guest worker program, but I am all for improving the speed at which people can emigrate and become full American citizens. That way we can all share in the burden as taxpayers, all have the right to vote, and all gain the benefits of being a full citizen.

For Mexicans only or for all people that wish to emigrate to America?

woj 05-01-2006 10:03 AM

150........

TurboAngel 05-01-2006 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by escorpio
Good for them. Much respect. :thumbsup

How do you feel about allowing others the opportunity that was granted your great-grandparents?


I feel if someone comes here legally and learns English, pays taxes and doesn't ask the government for help is more than welcome here.


:)

StuartD 05-01-2006 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DBS.US
The people on the Mayflower didn't come over and say give me free services, give me free money, I can't pay my rent so give me a free law services to get to stay free in my rented home. I don't have to follow the laws of the land. I don't need car insurance, I am a poor illegal immigrant.

No, you're right. They didn't ask. They just took what ever they wanted.

escorpio 05-01-2006 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by StuartD
No, you're right. They didn't ask. They just took what ever they wanted.

And killed the natives if they didn't get it.

AmateurFlix 05-01-2006 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by StuartD
No, you're right. They didn't ask. They just took what ever they wanted.

Not true. The first european settlers to come to this country arrived peacefully. Others later negotiated with natives for land. It was much later that any significant battles were fought over territory.

escorpio 05-01-2006 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by AmateurFlix
Not true. The first european settlers to come to this country arrived peacefully. Others later negotiated with natives for land. It was much later that any significant battles were fought over territory.

http://www.weymouth.ma.us/history/index.asp?id=2598


Once they realized they were in trouble, the Wessagusset men joined with the Plymouth settlers for some foraging and trading expeditions, and they did bring home some food. But by late winter, they ran out again. They then turned to the Indians and here again, they failed in their dealings. They traded for corn, giving up clothes and blankets or performing services for them like cutting wood. This did not gain them respect, and when some of them began to steal corn from the Indians, things got worse.

Hawkeye 05-01-2006 11:14 AM

"I believe this Government was made on the white basis. I believe it was made by white men for the benefit of white men and their posterity for ever, and I am in favor of confining citizenship to white men, men of European birth and descent, instead of conferring it upon negroes, Indians, and other inferior races."

- Stephen A. Douglas

bdld 05-01-2006 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by AmateurFlix
Others later negotiated with natives for land.

i wonder what those negotiations must have been like, "give me your land or else"

AmateurFlix 05-01-2006 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by bdld
i wonder what those negotiations must have been like, "give me your land or else"

supposedly they traded some prime new york real estate for some beads or something :upsidedow

dunno man, it doesn't really matter now. everyone involved in the transactions is long since dead, some people seem to like to blame anyone living now with a white face for what happened to other people that have been dead for many centuries... it doesn't seem to accomplish very much for them though.

escorpio 05-01-2006 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by AmateurFlix
dunno man, it doesn't really matter now.

Why do people that support theft and don't know their history always say this?


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