how much would you pay for someone's endorsement of your program? - GoFuckYourself.com

MrIzzz · 04-25-2006, 02:24 PM

i'm not talking just about sigs or regular sales rep stuff....

how much are you willing to pay to have more publicity for your program?

is there a way to judge this? a comission percentage? a flat monthly fee?

Just_Dave · 04-25-2006, 02:26 PM

this is going to be good

MrIzzz · 04-25-2006, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Just_Dave

this is going to be good

i've always been curious to see what kind of money someone would be willing to pay for big publicity

seeric · 04-25-2006, 02:28 PM

one meeeeeelion dollars

branding a name is an artform.

woooooooooooooof.

gimo33 · 04-25-2006, 02:29 PM

i hope someone replies.. im a bit curious too.

Just_Dave · 04-25-2006, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MrIzzz

i've always been curious to see what kind of money someone would be willing to pay for big publicity

same here buddy

ronaldo · 04-25-2006, 02:32 PM

Endorsement of a program is one thing. Endorsement from someone universally considered reputable and beyond reproach is quite another.

FuqALot · 04-25-2006, 02:34 PM

you wanna go juicy style?

say whatever you want about juicy but i bet the money spent by fleshlight was double worth it hehe.

MrIzzz · 04-25-2006, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by A1R3K

one meeeeeelion dollars

branding a name is an artform.

woooooooooooooof.

branding is HOT

u-Bob · 04-25-2006, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MrIzzz

branding is HOT

MrIzzz · 04-25-2006, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by FuqALot

you wanna go juicy style?

say whatever you want about juicy but i bet the money spent by fleshlight was double worth it hehe.

i would say alot more than double my friend

he alone brought in 100+ affiliates in her first month or so

Trixxxia · 04-25-2006, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ronaldo

Endorsement of a program is one thing. Endorsement from someone universally considered reputable and beyond reproach is quite another.

I agree Ron, also depends how many times the person has 'sold' his endorsement within the industry and in similar 'markets'.

FuqALot · 04-25-2006, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MrIzzz

i would say alot more than double my friend

he alone brought in 100+ affiliates in her first month or so

yep... double as in figural double, not as in money double.

luv$ · 04-25-2006, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MrIzzz

i would say alot more than double my friend

he alone brought in 100+ affiliates in her first month or so

Not trying to sound trite here but... only around 100?

Please understand I'm not hating, that is just very interesting.

Then again, fleshlight must have had quite a few affiliates to begin with, thus making new ones a bit harder to accumulate.

Who knows.

FuqALot · 04-25-2006, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by luv$

Not trying to sound trite here but... only around 100?

Please understand I'm not hating, that is just very interesting.

Then again, fleshlight must have had quite a few affiliates to begin with, thus making new ones a bit harder to accumulate.

Who knows.

i belive in the first month it wasnt that popular yet until webmasters started to receive fleshlights... and the first real conversions were posted.. hah

gimo33 · 04-25-2006, 02:47 PM

still no figures?

ronaldo · 04-25-2006, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TopBucksTrixxxia

I agree Ron, also depends how many times the person has 'sold' his endorsement within the industry and in similar 'markets'.

My point exactly.

Assume for a second that someone that practically EVERYONE in an industry looks up to and respects, steps up and endorses a product/program for the very first time. People will most likely take notice.

If that same person starts endorsing everything that comes along, just to line their pockets, it gets old pretty fast and people will eventually see through it.

That person is worth a LOT more money the first time around than he is in subsequent endorsements. There certainly can be exceptions to that rule though.

FreeHugeMovies · 04-25-2006, 02:59 PM

It doesn't take talent to post pictures and make yourself look like an idiot on GFY. If you call that branding then anyone can do it.

And this wasn't directed at you. You know I like you =]

Trixxxia · 04-25-2006, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ronaldo

My point exactly.

Assume for a second that someone that practically EVERYONE in an industry looks up to and respects, steps up and endorses a product/program for the very first time. People will most likely take notice.

If that same person starts endorsing everything that comes along, just to line their pockets, it gets old pretty fast and people will eventually see through it.

That person is worth a LOT more money the first time around than he is in subsequent endorsements. There certainly can be exceptions to that rule though.

Yup - also to take into consideration is how well the prior ones endorsed were to affiliates. The spokesperson can be one hell of a person but if the companies they represented in the past have been 'bad' it kind of tarnishes they're 'endorsement' value.

I'll also agree with you, Ron, that there are exceptions to every rule.

Trixxxia · 04-25-2006, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by FreeHugeMovies

It doesn't take talent to post pictures and make yourself look like an idiot on GFY. If you call that branding then anyone can do it.

And this wasn't directed at you. You know I like you =]

The 'endorsement' & branding factor is more based on how much exposure, preferably in a good light, you can bring.

Some are swayed, some aren't, the important thing is that it's seen - and in some cases, if you should think of that person, you know what product to visualize them with - pictures are a good way of doing it ;)

MrIzzz · 04-25-2006, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by luv$

Not trying to sound trite here but... only around 100?

Please understand I'm not hating, that is just very interesting.

Then again, fleshlight must have had quite a few affiliates to begin with, thus making new ones a bit harder to accumulate.

Who knows.

that was 100+ in his first few months...imagine what it is up to now? also i would love to find a sales rep out there that can generate 100 new affiliates in that short of time.

i know i never did.

i know you're not hating, i got much love for ya

MrIzzz · 04-25-2006, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ronaldo

My point exactly.

Assume for a second that someone that practically EVERYONE in an industry looks up to and respects, steps up and endorses a product/program for the very first time. People will most likely take notice.

If that same person starts endorsing everything that comes along, just to line their pockets, it gets old pretty fast and people will eventually see through it.

That person is worth a LOT more money the first time around than he is in subsequent endorsements. There certainly can be exceptions to that rule though.

i mostly agree, but there are a few people out there that can do it over and over again, they are the rare few that choose quality things to promote with their name

Trixxxia · 04-25-2006, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MrIzzz

i'm not talking just about sigs or regular sales rep stuff....

how much are you willing to pay to have more publicity for your program?

is there a way to judge this? a comission percentage? a flat monthly fee?

To answer your question MrIzzz, it depends on product & if a similar product has been endorsed by that person in the past & is it a set amount of exposure time?

I also think that initially, a base fee with threshold amount would be good *say increase affiliates by 5% or 50 (depending on how 'doable' it is) and sales now are at X amount, average rebills are at Y & New business has been at and average of Z% - increase those amounts by X% and anything above that you get a commission.

You can also go for a straight - New Affiliates & Business get a commission for life of promotions.

Also, if it's something you know you can do well and want to make sure you don't get the shortend of the stick, I'd say go for a base that you're comfortable with and get lifetime commissions.

But that's 'my' Canadian

MrIzzz · 04-25-2006, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by FreeHugeMovies

It doesn't take talent to post pictures and make yourself look like an idiot on GFY. If you call that branding then anyone can do it.

And this wasn't directed at you. You know I like you =]

point is that no one else has ever done it like juicy, period.

but my main topic isn't really directed only towards him, it aims at all of the big names of this industry, like if lens says that blondes are hot, than you know half of this board would agree that week.

btw, i like you too

MrIzzz · 04-25-2006, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TopBucksTrixxxia

To answer your question MrIzzz, it depends on product & if a similar product has been endorsed by that person in the past & is it a set amount of exposure time?

I also think that initially, a base fee with threshold amount would be good *say increase affiliates by 5% or 50 (depending on how 'doable' it is) and sales now are at X amount, average rebills are at Y & New business has been at and average of Z% - increase those amounts by X% and anything above that you get a commission.

You can also go for a straight - New Affiliates & Business get a commission for life of promotions.

Also, if it's something you know you can do well and want to make sure you don't get the shortend of the stick, I'd say go for a base that you're comfortable with and get lifetime commissions.

But that's 'my' Canadian

i love your canadian

definitely a good way to calculate worth there. Of course, building a larger higher quality affiliate base is the main goal and that takes ability

Trixxxia · 04-25-2006, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MrIzzz

i love your canadian

definitely a good way to calculate worth there. Of course, building a larger higher quality affiliate base is the main goal and that takes ability

Definitely - if the person is on a speed dial basis with whales, then you know they are worth far more than someone off the street - BUT remember that you have to be choosey of what you endorse & be sure that what you do is stable cuz those contacts will not follow the endorser everywhere at a loss. They're in it for money - you can be the sweetest, nicest, coolest, hottest - but when it comes down to money - everyone thinks of their pocket and rightly so. They'll still luv'em, but they won't switch links all the time cuz the person got a new gig.

luv$ · 04-26-2006, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MrIzzz

also i would love to find a sales rep out there that can generate 100 new affiliates in that short of time.

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Originally Posted by MrIzzz

i know you're not hating, i got much love for ya

Thanks for understanding man, and I appreciate it.

Juicy D. Links · 04-26-2006, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MrIzzz

i would say alot more than double my friend

he alone brought in 100+ affiliates in her first month or so

your missing a "zero"

Juicy D. Links · 04-26-2006, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by FreeHugeMovies

It doesn't take talent to post pictures and make yourself look like an idiot on GFY. If you call that branding then anyone can do it.

And this wasn't directed at you. You know I like you =]

you my friend need a lesson on "branding"

this idiot pulled in enough by doing what he does , and second dont ask Izzzy next time how much mone i am pulling in with my different business's worry about your own $$$

Jealous prick. Cant believe they kept you at triple x cash as long as they did... acting like a fucking drunk fool in vegas 2 years ago... great representastion i would want for my company

Juicy D. Links · 04-26-2006, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by MrIzzz

point is that no one else has ever done it like juicy, period.

but my main topic isn't really directed only towards him, it aims at all of the big names of this industry, like if lens says that blondes are hot, than you know half of this board would agree that week.

btw, i like you too

Izzz ignore FHM , funny how he was hassling me for a "FREE FRESHLIGHT" and such..... people like him are nothing but fools....

Juicy D. Links · 04-26-2006, 09:15 AM

FHM you moron next time you want to know about my income or business ask me not my friends...... Izzy told me exactly what u said.... we have been laughing at you since then.....

Good luck on your new site btw hehehe

TDF · 04-26-2006, 09:15 AM

I bring in a ton of traffic sending affiliates...TRAFFIC SENDING is the important measure here

Juicy D. Links · 04-26-2006, 09:15 AM

TripleXXXCash how in gods name did you keep this fucking moron on your payroll?

MikeVega · 04-26-2006, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

your missing a "zero"

I was going to say that .. I thought it was about 1000 new by the vegas show ..

CDSmith · 04-26-2006, 09:27 AM

The sky's the limit. Some companies go big, and some companies go home.

It's that simple.

I'm nowhere near as flamboyant or aggressive as juicy is, but I've put a fair number of new affiliates into PussyCash too in my tenure with flying their stuff in my sig. No small feat considering they are a very popular program and gaining popularity by the second.

Juicy does very well here, I'd say that fleshlight is/was a perfect match for his style of promotion to webmasters.

chadglni · 04-26-2006, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by MrIzzz

point is that no one else has ever done it like juicy, period.

but my main topic isn't really directed only towards him, it aims at all of the big names of this industry, like if lens says that blondes are hot, than you know half of this board would agree that week.

btw, i like you too

Izzz if you think nobody has done it like juicy you have some seriously low expectations. One person with a decent network can push 100 affilates to a new product / program in well under a month. I know people that could fire off an email and get 100 affiliates. As for what it's worth, if you can push big numbers it's worth a lot but 100 affiliates in 3 months is not what most programs will call "big".

seeric · 04-26-2006, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ronaldo

My point exactly.

Assume for a second that someone that practically EVERYONE in an industry looks up to and respects, steps up and endorses a product/program for the very first time. People will most likely take notice.

If that same person starts endorsing everything that comes along, just to line their pockets, it gets old pretty fast and people will eventually see through it.

That person is worth a LOT more money the first time around than he is in subsequent endorsements. There certainly can be exceptions to that rule though.

correctomundo senor!

seeric · 04-26-2006, 09:42 AM

hahaha. just read all the other nonsense too. wow.

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04-26-2006, 09:15 AM	#32
TDF Triple OG nigga on GFY Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: in the BP4L family compound Posts: 27,296	I bring in a ton of traffic sending affiliates...TRAFFIC SENDING is the important measure here __________________ Sig heil

04-26-2006, 09:27 AM	#35
CDSmith Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: My network is hosted at TECHIEMEDIA.net ...Wait, you meant where am I located at? Oh... okay, I'm in Winnipeg, Canada. Oops. :) Posts: 51,460	The sky's the limit. Some companies go big, and some companies go home. It's that simple. I'm nowhere near as flamboyant or aggressive as juicy is, but I've put a fair number of new affiliates into PussyCash too in my tenure with flying their stuff in my sig. No small feat considering they are a very popular program and gaining popularity by the second. Juicy does very well here, I'd say that fleshlight is/was a perfect match for his style of promotion to webmasters. __________________ *Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!* ALWAYS THE HIGHEST PAYOUTS: Big Bux/ImLive SIGNUP ON NOW!!! Put some PUSSYCA$H in your pocket. ICQ me at: 31024634

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Just_Dave Its almost time Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 13,009	this is going to be good

04-25-2006, 02:28 PM	#4
seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	one meeeeeelion dollars branding a name is an artform. woooooooooooooof.

04-25-2006, 02:32 PM	#7
ronaldo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: ICQ#: 272000271 Posts: 5,475	Endorsement of a program is one thing. Endorsement from someone universally considered reputable and beyond reproach is quite another.

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FuqALot Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Malibu Posts: 3,817	you wanna go juicy style? say whatever you want about juicy but i bet the money spent by fleshlight was double worth it hehe.

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FreeHugeMovies Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 14,137	It doesn't take talent to post pictures and make yourself look like an idiot on GFY. If you call that branding then anyone can do it. And this wasn't directed at you. You know I like you =]

04-26-2006, 09:15 AM	#31
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	FHM you moron next time you want to know about my income or business ask me not my friends...... Izzy told me exactly what u said.... we have been laughing at you since then..... Good luck on your new site btw hehehe

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seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	hahaha. just read all the other nonsense too. wow.