Webmasters who care about their surfers make me SICK! - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

seven · 05-14-2006, 07:38 AM

Quote:

4.95 for 3 days is the monthly equivalent of about 150 dollars a month

Your math is so fucking fucked up damn! 4.95 for 3 days is equivalent of $49.50 per month not 150 dolla brutha!

seven · 05-14-2006, 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quick Buck

1) Stop the act of rebilling. You, me, the processors and everybody out there knows that MOST rebills happen because people *forget* to cancel. A small percentage rebill purposefully.

This is not true either. According to processors only about 2% of rebills happen because people *forget* to cancel, rest rebill purposefully.. now if your site does that 2% only converting from trial to rebill that would be 100% rebills cause of frogetful people for you otherwise.. Get your facts checked bro before you babble along

Quick Buck · 05-14-2006, 08:25 AM

hahahahah, bumping an old thread here. lol.

What processor gave you those stats?

bigdog · 05-14-2006, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quick Buck

hahahahah, bumping an old thread here. lol.

What processor gave you those stats?

It was a good thread deserves a bump

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-14-2006, 12:51 PM

We know ya guys do not care about surfers.

But then I do not think webmasters care about surfers either, but when surfers are stolen...
Thats a different matter.

David - PG · 05-14-2006, 01:05 PM

Ridiculous GFY Myth #738

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC

If you dont offer them trials, most will join anyway.

Socks · 05-14-2006, 01:11 PM

From our experience as one of the original 'review' sites, I'll post more later.

When we started developing our site in 2001, it was badly needed. Webmasters were getting away with too much, and it was hurting the industry as a whole because of chargebacks, etc. People were being very greedy.

Trials are what they have to be, with bandwidth nowadays. Limited trials I'm okay with, just tell the fucking customers! They have a right to know what they're buying. It's your business, run it how you want, but you really can't stop me from explaining how you conduct business to my customers.

Most good sites who stop selling trials and start selling monthly only, do just fine, and sales increase.

If you charge $39.95, it better be pretty good.

What concerns me is The Best Porn.

They are now offering "discounts" to many sites, by working deals with webmasters. Many sites at half price, etc. When I launch my next site, do I now have to follow suit? I guess I do. If he does it, I have to.

So then I guess we all have to? Where does that end.

Loryn · 05-14-2006, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

If we stopped offering free porn, then we would make money again... that's it.

B I N G O

Drake · 05-14-2006, 01:41 PM

lol nice try...

andrej_NDC · 05-14-2006, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David - PG

Ridiculous GFY Myth #738

I tried both, with trials and without on several spots.

MaddCaz · 05-14-2006, 03:11 PM

I'm confused...is he pro moral or anti moral?

RRRED · 05-14-2006, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Socks

It's your business, run it how you want, but you really can't stop me from explaining how you conduct business to my customers.

Most good sites who stop selling trials and start selling monthly only, do just fine, and sales increase.

We love when you explain how we conduct business

Rui · 05-14-2006, 03:48 PM

I find it ironic that this thread was started by somebody that dealt with spyware...

you make good valid points but still its funny coming from you guys...

Rui · 05-14-2006, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trax

i say no trials
40 bucks a month
well
that would be nice

oh and no free porn at all
fuck
id even be happy with 20 bucks a month if there was no free porn

sadly things are moving to the opposite direction

more and more crappy FHG's flooding the net and programs offering lots of crappy content in global members areas that aren't worth jack shit...

All this for the almigthy quick-buck (not talking about the program btw ;) )

Edit: Plus using xsales, exit chains, traffic leaks, shittyass $100 plugins,etc...

justsexxx · 05-14-2006, 04:00 PM

Regarding most rebills are just there because they 'forget' to cancel. I can see from logs when a user joins, when he logs in, and how long etc.

I do see most users join, access the memberarea right away, and come back 2 days after that. And then like 2-3 times a week,,,

Also funny how 'karups' for example must have the most STUPID members, compared to revshare sites with 10 pics total

Andre

Barefootsies · 05-14-2006, 04:32 PM

Yeah no shit.

That 'rebill forget' thing's horseshit. If they are doing that on your sites, or you have a flood of chargebacks, you might want to consider looking at your business model.

Or impliment a 'nonrecurring' option.

Plenty rebill for months, or years if you have good material, and know your market.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-14-2006, 04:44 PM

Woosh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You fucking morons!

LOL! Congrats Hooper you did it! You banked on total fucking idiots to win out over real biz folks!

You win bro!

beemk · 05-14-2006, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhoGivesaShit

and their is plenty of password sites and free shit on the net.

yeah i agree, just like the other day my friend was telling me he went to the store to buy groceries. i laughed at him and said "why would you do that when you can just bring your backpack and steal them?"

WDchris · 05-14-2006, 04:51 PM

Internet porn is but sexy images on the computer screen.

Quick Buck · 05-14-2006, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ

Woosh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You fucking morons!

LOL! Congrats Hooper you did it! You banked on total fucking idiots to win out over real biz folks!

You win bro!

Put down the bong.

Sparks · 05-14-2006, 04:53 PM

Sounds to me like you havent looked into the amount it costs to start and run a successful program. No program could make it working with $4-6 per sale. No affiliate would push it either... making it tougher on the programs.

Also, you get something unique. Milfhunter, for example, updates 3 times a week with 1 new girl every week. It is a consistent website. You can't get that from a DVD.

seven · 05-14-2006, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparks

Sounds to me like you havent looked into the amount it costs to start and run a successful program. No program could make it working with $4-6 per sale. No affiliate would push it either... making it tougher on the programs.

Also, you get something unique. Milfhunter, for example, updates 3 times a week with 1 new girl every week. It is a consistent website. You can't get that from a DVD.

Nawh sounds to me like he's talking about 114 cookie cutter sites with bulk non-exclusive content. So in his case he'd prolly be right. But exclusive hardcore orgy/interracial or alike shoot each worth $3,000+ it could get hard for many sites to stay online and pay its bills @$4-6.. then again, don't think he's talking about that.

Alien, is he really Hooper?

Barefootsies · 05-14-2006, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seven

Nawh sounds to me like he's talking about 114 cookie cutter sites with bulk non-exclusive content. So in his case he'd prolly be right. But exclusive hardcore orgy/interracial or alike shoot each worth $3,000+ it could get hard for many sites to stay online and pay its bills @$4-6.. then again, don't think he's talking about that.

Alien, is he really Hooper?

Probably so.

I'm do not know what kind of sites he's referring to, but if it's repackaged cookie cutters, then he might be on to something.

Webby · 05-14-2006, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slapass

Sites are too cheap now. They should raise rates. I have HBO and am fuzzy on the cost but a good porn site should be that high or higher. Blockbuster does not rent porn so being higher then them makes sense to me.

Agree slapass!

Only my

but also think the US market has damaged the "value" of front-end prices and it's kinda spoilt.

There is far more individual signup value from a surfers outside the US - especially when you offer payment in their own currency.

Simple example - Publishers often price books in multi-currency and e.g. a $39.95 book can be priced at 39.95 in UK pounds and same in Euros. There is a vast difference between 39.95 UK pounds and $US 39.95 - currently a difference of around $35.78 extra.

There is also a geographical perception of what a sufer expects to pay. $19.95 is nothing to a Euro surfer - it's the cost of a packet of cigarettes and some loose change.

I'll roll with the currency basket any day!

Quick Buck · 05-14-2006, 08:53 PM

it's awfully frustrating reading posts where people refer to "you" and "he".

I'd be fascinated to see a site bill 5 dollars a month and stay in business too.

05-14-2006, 08:25 AM	#53
Quick Buck Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Free-Trials.......... Weekly-Payouts..... 100+Sites Posts: 1,026	hahahahah, bumping an old thread here. lol. What processor gave you those stats? __________________ $50 FREE TRIALS! Every Day til 2008!!! Only at QuickBuck

05-14-2006, 12:51 PM	#55
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	We know ya guys do not care about surfers. But then I do not think webmasters care about surfers either, but when surfers are stolen... Thats a different matter. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \| Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 05-14-2006 at 12:53 PM..

05-14-2006, 03:11 PM	#61
MaddCaz Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 9,483	I'm confused...is he pro moral or anti moral? __________________ BigCocks.com - MatureWomen.com - Tranny.com - DrunkGirls.com - TeenGirls.com - MonsterCock.com and many more... Click here to see them all!

05-14-2006, 04:00 PM	#65
justsexxx Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 13,723	Regarding most rebills are just there because they 'forget' to cancel. I can see from logs when a user joins, when he logs in, and how long etc. I do see most users join, access the memberarea right away, and come back 2 days after that. And then like 2-3 times a week,,, Also funny how 'karups' for example must have the most STUPID members, compared to revshare sites with 10 pics total Andre __________________ Questions? ICQ: 125184542

05-14-2006, 04:32 PM	#66
Barefootsies Choice is an Illusion Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Land of Obama Posts: 42,635	Yeah no shit. That 'rebill forget' thing's horseshit. If they are doing that on your sites, or you have a flood of chargebacks, you might want to consider looking at your business model. Or impliment a 'nonrecurring' option. Plenty rebill for months, or years if you have good material, and know your market. __________________ Should You Email Your Members? Link1 \| Link2 \| Link3 Enough Said. "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

05-14-2006, 01:11 PM	#57
Socks Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,475	From our experience as one of the original 'review' sites, I'll post more later. When we started developing our site in 2001, it was badly needed. Webmasters were getting away with too much, and it was hurting the industry as a whole because of chargebacks, etc. People were being very greedy. Trials are what they have to be, with bandwidth nowadays. Limited trials I'm okay with, just tell the fucking customers! They have a right to know what they're buying. It's your business, run it how you want, but you really can't stop me from explaining how you conduct business to my customers. Most good sites who stop selling trials and start selling monthly only, do just fine, and sales increase. If you charge $39.95, it better be pretty good. What concerns me is The Best Porn. They are now offering "discounts" to many sites, by working deals with webmasters. Many sites at half price, etc. When I launch my next site, do I now have to follow suit? I guess I do. If he does it, I have to. So then I guess we all have to? Where does that end.

05-14-2006, 01:41 PM	#59
Drake Hello world! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 12,508	lol nice try...

05-14-2006, 03:48 PM	#63
Rui web Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: On icq: 85-483-060 Posts: 9,533	I find it ironic that this thread was started by somebody that dealt with spyware... you make good valid points but still its funny coming from you guys...

05-14-2006, 04:44 PM	#67
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	Woosh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You fucking morons! LOL! Congrats Hooper you did it! You banked on total fucking idiots to win out over real biz folks! You win bro! __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

05-14-2006, 04:51 PM	#69
WDchris Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: California Posts: 612	Internet porn is but sexy images on the computer screen.

05-14-2006, 04:53 PM	#71
Sparks Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Southern CA Posts: 2,466	Sounds to me like you havent looked into the amount it costs to start and run a successful program. No program could make it working with $4-6 per sale. No affiliate would push it either... making it tougher on the programs. Also, you get something unique. Milfhunter, for example, updates 3 times a week with 1 new girl every week. It is a consistent website. You can't get that from a DVD.

05-14-2006, 08:53 PM	#75
Quick Buck Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Free-Trials.......... Weekly-Payouts..... 100+Sites Posts: 1,026	it's awfully frustrating reading posts where people refer to "you" and "he". I'd be fascinated to see a site bill 5 dollars a month and stay in business too. __________________ $50 FREE TRIALS! Every Day til 2008!!! Only at QuickBuck