9/11 Loose Change 2nd Edition [GREAT VIDEO] u still think it's osama? - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

Phoenix · 04-11-2006, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by fatman1

I thought this was a really good documentry, really gets you thinking. I am left thinking:

the way the towers collapsed in a controled demolishion style is deffinately odd.

the pentagon. even on 9/11 i remember thinking "so where the fuck is the plane?" more than likely it was a misile.

the calls -- supposedly from cell phones -- on the flights made by the victims. cell phones usualy don't work on planes (0000.1% chance of them working or something, apparently) and they sound suspect as hell, like the guy who said "hey mom, it's me [full name]" ... when was the last time you called your mom and said hey mom it's me joe bloggs (or whatever your name is). crazy.

osama denied it. the confession video is clearly not him, hes writing with his right hand when it's widely known hes left handed, hes wearing a gold ring (forbidden in islam) etc etc it's just a shitty fake.

money. the guy taking insurance a few weeks before it happened, the gold under the buildings themselfs, the put options, etc etc.

bush. reason to start a war, invade the middle east, etc etc.

more then likely an inside job, this shit happens, not much we can do about it. fuck it. life goes on. these people are much more powerful than any of us and have ruled over the world for hundreds of years (these top familes etc). fuck it.

please keep logic out of these kind of threads....they are best served by insulting the other parties involved

Greg B · 04-11-2006, 11:55 AM

Please. Put a fork in this shit it's done. Doesn't matter who was behind these attacks, the bottom line is they got away with it and did the damage they did. Only ONE motherfucker has ever been brought to trial and he confessed at that.

The End. Give it a rest.

Who's responsible? All of us are for not fighting enough to make sure the laws preventing this shit which are already in place were enforced.

Laziness and greed are not a way to run a society.

chshkt · 04-11-2006, 12:04 PM

so what are you waiting for? another 9/11?

Greg B · 04-11-2006, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by chshkt

so what are you waiting for? another 9/11?

Another one? Shit, get real. Ain't a damned thing you would be able to do about it anyway.

As long as the war between the Tinfoilhats and the Asshats keeps going on we'll just be arguing back and forth.

9/11 could have been prevented but it wasn't. That says it all.

Webby · 04-11-2006, 12:55 PM

Never saw the movie yet, nor into conspiracy theories.

One thing that is a fact is that I don't believe fuck all about anything until I've either see it with my own eyes or a full, detailed and transparent account is presented via a range of qualified and competent sources to justify believing anything.

As far as the 9/11 incident is concerned - there has been little or no deliverance of any detail either to the families of those involved or to the public.

Excuses and reasons have ranged from "national security" to "protecting the families".

For the scrappy scenario presented as "how it was" - there are clearly alleged facts presented which defy known and universally accepted scientific principles.

Of the alleged X hi-jackers claimed by US Admin to have been involved - most of these individuals are currently free and employed eg as pilots and air crew and where the airlines involved do not appear to have any concerns about alleged involvement of their staff in the 9/11 incident.

On the alleged mastermind, bin Laden, it is now incredible to believe that this individual is purportedly the most wanted man on the planet and has still not been found - either "dead or alive". This either says a lot about intelligence services, there is a deliberate avoidance to locate him, or bin Laden is the first man to successfully accomplish the feat of making himself invisible.

It is little surprise there are conspiracy theories since there is little actual evidence generally known to establish any fact - other than unsupported statements/allegations by government officials. Statements from the same government sources - going back decades, have already been proven to be either "not quite the truth", blantant lies or slants based on a grain of truth and there is no reason to accept them as fact - no court would.

Ecksent · 04-11-2006, 12:58 PM

I've always wondered (before seeing all the conspiracy theories) about that Flight 93 and the plane into the Pentagon. Just never really made any sense to me. Really nothing any one can do now though.

Luc · 04-11-2006, 01:08 PM

pretty amazing stuff. everyone should watch this.

Webby · 04-11-2006, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Luc

pretty amazing stuff. everyone should watch this.

Just watching it now

Yeah.. amazing stuff, and pointing out the various blatantly obvious alleged facts which just don't match up with existing scientific analysis of other equivalent incidents involving aircraft.

Also never knew folks built skyscrapers with explosive devices every X floors - it's too silly.

tyler. · 04-11-2006, 02:15 PM

a very clear version of what happened

Xplicit · 04-11-2006, 02:29 PM

Yeah, this seems to be the only 9-11 documentry that seems credible, the rest are done by psycho-wacko-conspiracy theorists. This guy seems to be pretty logical and factual.

Rebecca Love · 04-11-2006, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by chshkt

GOLD hits $600

eeeeek.

ronbotx · 04-11-2006, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Franck

Chkshit and Phoenix, the conspiracy butt budies with their "evidence" again

Retards.

Go start a retard board together and stop bothering us with these videos made by 12 yr old kids who leave out all the real evidence to confuse mentally weak punks like you 2.

Chkshit and Phoenix... just go to democraticunderground.com and you can hook up with all your fellow retards, conspiracy theorists, bush bashers, and the rest of the "blame America first" crowd.....

Trust me.... you'll love it. They'll pay attention to you there.

VicJay · 04-11-2006, 03:18 PM

Interesting vid...

ronbotx · 04-11-2006, 03:32 PM

Pretty good debunk of this "

documentary

"

http://home.planet.nl/~reijd050/JoeR...e_analysis.htm

Webby · 04-11-2006, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ronbotx

Chkshit and Phoenix... just go to democraticunderground.com and you can hook up with all your fellow retards, conspiracy theorists, bush bashers, and the rest of the "blame America first" crowd.....

Trust me.... you'll love it. They'll pay attention to you there.

Why is it that some folks in the US are so damned screwed up and warped by domestic politics between conservatives and democrats, they'd never know a nuclear attack if the saw one with their own eyes?

Only in some ex-communist countries and a couple of controlled states does this bullshit surface. The rest of the world don't give a fuck.

chshkt · 04-11-2006, 05:43 PM

Mr. Bush, We Know What You Did That Summer!

directfiesta · 04-11-2006, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ronbotx

bush bashers, and the rest of the "blame America first" crowd.....

No 1 : respect your president; put a capital " B" to his name.

No 2: Bashing ... ?????? just pointing out all the constant lies that this bunch of criminals are feeding you .. the worst is you believe it ... shows how poor your intellect is ...

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On May 29, 2003, 50 days after the fall of Baghdad, President Bush proclaimed a fresh victory for his administration in Iraq: Two small trailers captured by U.S. troops had turned out to be long-sought mobile "biological laboratories." He declared, "We have found the weapons of mass destruction."

The claim, repeated by top administration officials for months afterward, was hailed at the time as a vindication of the decision to go to war. But even as Bush spoke, U.S. intelligence officials possessed powerful evidence that it was not true.

A secret fact-finding mission to Iraq -- not made public until now -- had already concluded that the trailers had nothing to do with biological weapons. Leaders of the Pentagon-sponsored mission transmitted their unanimous findings to Washington in a field report on May 27, 2003, two days before the president's statement.

rest of today's lie.. opus , sorry ... ARTICLE ...

... but way less serious as a BJ lie, that only cost the lives of a few millions sperms ....

TTiger · 04-12-2006, 01:32 AM

the best movie about terrorism is here

The Power of Nightmares 1 of 3
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...tmares&pl=true

The Power of Nightmares 2 of 3

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...tmares&pl=true

The Power of Nightmares 3 of 3

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3378107729331676799&q=power+of+nig htmares&pl=true

jade_dragon · 04-12-2006, 03:34 AM

I was thinking about the "odd" phone call from son to mother. The first thing is that this call was never released to the public so the information was dictated to someone from a person who did hear it, then dictated again and again untill it got to use through this video.

There is no way to tell how much [SIC] was used by individuals in giving this info. Anything that was not clearly audible or missed by someone getting the info would have had a best fill in which could explain a lot.

But let's take it literally. Let's say the guy wanted to make sure that he was identified completely, he calls his mother and hoping there was a recording he gives his full name so there is no mistake that it was he who made the call. Perhaps also he said something along the lines of we will be ok or we are going to make it in which case the following question "you believe me" was to get her to confirm not only to herself but also to him (having heard her say it to him) that they would indeed make it.

I believe there is a lot more involved in this than any of us will ever know and more to it than we are being told, but I do not believe everything anyone says on this subject, especially when using certain ploys to get emotional response to overpower logic and the bending of partial truths to make the other side look like a complete lie.

Manowar · 04-12-2006, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

Is that THE tin foil hat that was used to make americans believe that Iraq was an imminent threat ....

Konda · 04-12-2006, 05:46 AM

http://www.reopen911.org/ here is another video. You can get a free DVD or stream it. It has alot of the same theories as loose change + some extra ones.

http://streaming.reopen911.org/video...Deceptions.wmv

Luc · 04-12-2006, 06:37 AM

here is the Bush Gold digger song... Pretty funny shit.

http://www.flake.com/go/gold_digger_song_abo_1111.htm

AdultMovies.bz · 06-14-2006, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

Even if you take into account that the government lied to us about numerous 9/11 related things.. it still doesn't mean that osama wasnt involved..

Uhm... wrong

http://www.shoutwire.com/comments/15...aden_To_ 9_11
The FBI doesn't connect osama to 9/11 on their website either...

kanalj · 06-14-2006, 02:48 AM

looks like a good vid, have to watch the full thing before any objective comments

GatorB · 06-14-2006, 03:08 AM

Weird how Condoleza Rice told SF mayor Willie Brown on Sept 10th not to fly on Sept 11th. Wonder why that was? Must be a huge coincidence.

d00t · 06-14-2006, 06:51 AM

that's the best vid ive seen so far about 9/11

honestly i cant understand how you can still think EVERYTHING that day REALLY happened as the media reports it as.

The Truth Hurts · 06-14-2006, 07:39 AM

http://www.ccdominoes.com/lc/LooseChangeGuide.html

The Truth Hurts · 06-14-2006, 07:40 AM

Errors of fact: 81
Post hoc ergo prompter hoc fallacies: 92
Assumptions and conjectures not supported by evidence: 92
Photo & video images that do not support statements being made: 48
Non sequiturs: 24
Opinions expressed on technical subjects by non-experts: 22
Anonymous sources: 19
"Straw man" arguments: 10
Overgeneralizations: 10
Arguments to authority: 3
Similes or metaphors taken as literal statements: 12
Statements misleading because incomplete quotes used: 25

Total flubs: 426

Hollywood376 · 06-14-2006, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Webby

...scientific analysis

Phoenix · 06-14-2006, 07:43 AM

what is there to do...no one will do anything
evn people who believe give up and say..well there is nothign we can do

beat down already..what is left to do.

march on washington one million strong

Tdog · 06-14-2006, 07:50 AM

Here is another good video.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...911+eyewitness

Thomas N · 06-14-2006, 07:59 AM

LMAO every word of that conspiracy theory video has been debunked.

12clicks · 06-14-2006, 08:07 AM

and we wonder why our children fail?
look at all the believers of this shit.

JimmiDean · 06-14-2006, 08:22 AM

They need to release ALL the information on this to clear things up

04-11-2006, 12:04 PM	#53
chshkt Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,500	so what are you waiting for? another 9/11? __________________ Start An Online Business, FREE!

04-11-2006, 12:55 PM	#55
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	Never saw the movie yet, nor into conspiracy theories. One thing that is a fact is that I don't believe fuck all about anything until I've either see it with my own eyes or a full, detailed and transparent account is presented via a range of qualified and competent sources to justify believing anything. As far as the 9/11 incident is concerned - there has been little or no deliverance of any detail either to the families of those involved or to the public. Excuses and reasons have ranged from "national security" to "protecting the families". For the scrappy scenario presented as "how it was" - there are clearly alleged facts presented which defy known and universally accepted scientific principles. Of the alleged X hi-jackers claimed by US Admin to have been involved - most of these individuals are currently free and employed eg as pilots and air crew and where the airlines involved do not appear to have any concerns about alleged involvement of their staff in the 9/11 incident. On the alleged mastermind, bin Laden, it is now incredible to believe that this individual is purportedly the most wanted man on the planet and has still not been found - either "dead or alive". This either says a lot about intelligence services, there is a deliberate avoidance to locate him, or bin Laden is the first man to successfully accomplish the feat of making himself invisible. It is little surprise there are conspiracy theories since there is little actual evidence generally known to establish any fact - other than unsupported statements/allegations by government officials. Statements from the same government sources - going back decades, have already been proven to be either "not quite the truth", blantant lies or slants based on a grain of truth and there is no reason to accept them as fact - no court would. __________________ XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

04-11-2006, 12:58 PM	#56
Ecksent Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Near Vancouver Posts: 1,415	I've always wondered (before seeing all the conspiracy theories) about that Flight 93 and the plane into the Pentagon. Just never really made any sense to me. Really nothing any one can do now though. __________________ Anyone wanna sig spot.......cheap????

04-11-2006, 01:08 PM	#57
Luc Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Houston Posts: 1,130	pretty amazing stuff. everyone should watch this. __________________ » Looking for Type-in domais? Page Rank domains? Alexa domains? Popular domains? » Domain Research Tool can scan hundreds of thousands of domains to find whatever you're looking for. » Auto-appraise domains and send automated domain offers in bulk with just one click. » Full support for Proxy Servers and International Overture. Try it Free.

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04-11-2006, 11:55 AM	#52
Greg B So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: EARTH (for the time being) Posts: 7,014	Please. Put a fork in this shit it's done. Doesn't matter who was behind these attacks, the bottom line is they got away with it and did the damage they did. Only ONE motherfucker has ever been brought to trial and he confessed at that. The End. Give it a rest. Who's responsible? All of us are for not fighting enough to make sure the laws preventing this shit which are already in place were enforced. Laziness and greed are not a way to run a society.

04-11-2006, 02:15 PM	#59
tyler. Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,653	a very clear version of what happened

04-11-2006, 02:29 PM	#60
Xplicit Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: █◄►█ Posts: 3,558	Yeah, this seems to be the only 9-11 documentry that seems credible, the rest are done by psycho-wacko-conspiracy theorists. This guy seems to be pretty logical and factual.

04-11-2006, 03:32 PM	#64
ronbotx Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,634	Pretty good debunk of this " documentary " http://home.planet.nl/~reijd050/JoeR...e_analysis.htm

04-11-2006, 05:43 PM	#66
chshkt Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,500	Mr. Bush, We Know What You Did That Summer! __________________ Start An Online Business, FREE!

04-12-2006, 01:32 AM	#68
TTiger Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: quebec, canada Posts: 3,030	the best movie about terrorism is here The Power of Nightmares 1 of 3 http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...tmares&pl=true The Power of Nightmares 2 of 3 http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...tmares&pl=true The Power of Nightmares 3 of 3 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3378107729331676799&q=power+of+nig htmares&pl=true __________________ Last edited by TTiger; 04-12-2006 at 01:33 AM..

04-12-2006, 03:34 AM	#69
jade_dragon Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: NEW ORLEANS/Baton Rouge BABY! Posts: 1,737	I was thinking about the "odd" phone call from son to mother. The first thing is that this call was never released to the public so the information was dictated to someone from a person who did hear it, then dictated again and again untill it got to use through this video. There is no way to tell how much [SIC] was used by individuals in giving this info. Anything that was not clearly audible or missed by someone getting the info would have had a best fill in which could explain a lot. But let's take it literally. Let's say the guy wanted to make sure that he was identified completely, he calls his mother and hoping there was a recording he gives his full name so there is no mistake that it was he who made the call. Perhaps also he said something along the lines of we will be ok or we are going to make it in which case the following question "you believe me" was to get her to confirm not only to herself but also to him (having heard her say it to him) that they would indeed make it. I believe there is a lot more involved in this than any of us will ever know and more to it than we are being told, but I do not believe everything anyone says on this subject, especially when using certain ploys to get emotional response to overpower logic and the bending of partial truths to make the other side look like a complete lie. __________________ even ADULTS need TOYS icq: 3 6 3 2 6 6 6 7 \| aim: conglomorateman open for business, affiliates and friendships

04-12-2006, 05:46 AM	#71
Konda ... Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,280	http://www.reopen911.org/ here is another video. You can get a free DVD or stream it. It has alot of the same theories as loose change + some extra ones. http://streaming.reopen911.org/video...Deceptions.wmv Last edited by Konda; 04-12-2006 at 05:48 AM..

04-12-2006, 06:37 AM	#72
Luc Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Houston Posts: 1,130	here is the Bush Gold digger song... Pretty funny shit. http://www.flake.com/go/gold_digger_song_abo_1111.htm __________________ » Looking for Type-in domais? Page Rank domains? Alexa domains? Popular domains? » Domain Research Tool can scan hundreds of thousands of domains to find whatever you're looking for. » Auto-appraise domains and send automated domain offers in bulk with just one click. » Full support for Proxy Servers and International Overture. Try it Free.

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kanalj Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 639	looks like a good vid, have to watch the full thing before any objective comments __________________ I made that back in the days!

06-14-2006, 03:08 AM	#75
GatorB The Demon & 12clicks Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: SallyRand is a FAGGOT Posts: 18,208	Weird how Condoleza Rice told SF mayor Willie Brown on Sept 10th not to fly on Sept 11th. Wonder why that was? Must be a huge coincidence.

06-14-2006, 06:51 AM	#76
d00t Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In your mind Posts: 3,766	that's the best vid ive seen so far about 9/11 honestly i cant understand how you can still think EVERYTHING that day REALLY happened as the media reports it as.

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The Truth Hurts Zph7YXfjMhg Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In Your Skull Posts: 15,415	http://www.ccdominoes.com/lc/LooseChangeGuide.html

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The Truth Hurts Zph7YXfjMhg Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In Your Skull Posts: 15,415	Errors of fact: 81 Post hoc ergo prompter hoc fallacies: 92 Assumptions and conjectures not supported by evidence: 92 Photo & video images that do not support statements being made: 48 Non sequiturs: 24 Opinions expressed on technical subjects by non-experts: 22 Anonymous sources: 19 "Straw man" arguments: 10 Overgeneralizations: 10 Arguments to authority: 3 Similes or metaphors taken as literal statements: 12 Statements misleading because incomplete quotes used: 25 Total flubs: 426

06-14-2006, 07:43 AM	#80
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06-14-2006, 07:50 AM	#81
Tdog Confirmed User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 2,707	Here is another good video. http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...911+eyewitness

06-14-2006, 07:59 AM	#82
Thomas N Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 973	LMAO every word of that conspiracy theory video has been debunked.

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