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Old 04-03-2006, 06:36 AM   #1
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Topless Sunbathing Pictures

What are the laws on taking them? I see guys out on the beach all the time with cameras and I know they are not going to put them in their scrapbook. Pam and tommy lost some court battle? Can you do that?
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Old 04-03-2006, 07:03 AM   #2
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sobe going all out
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Old 04-03-2006, 07:40 AM   #3
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Well I do go to the beach just about every day for walks and maybe some yoga. I happen to see the girls laying out topless or bottomless even and every once in a while there will be some dude with binocs and a camera with zoom lens. I just mind my own business but was curious as to the laws for this. I remember that tommy pam anderson video the judge said that because they did there thing in public they gave up the right to privac... Was this correct?
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Old 04-03-2006, 07:49 AM   #4
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sunbathing topless = attracting attention = newsworthy = legal to make pics / report news...


(I'm just guessing ehre )
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Old 04-03-2006, 07:54 AM   #5
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Couple of potential probs I see here...

a) You have no idea if the "model" is 18+

b) There is no signed release allowing you to use the images for commercial purposes.

It may be (borderline) legal to take images of people on the beach - clothed or otherwise - for personal use, but for commercial use you'll probably run into issues.
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Old 04-03-2006, 08:02 AM   #6
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BTW are people in your area going "no cameras allowed" crazy too? Around here if you're at a beach with a camera and there are children around you're considered a perv. I was taking pics of rocks, well away from people, and I still got some dirty looks from parents! The one time I was at a busy beach taking pics of my daughter I made sure to use a wide open aperture so that people in the bg were blurred... and I still felt uncomfortable.

Cameras have been banned at many swimming pools, I'm not even allowed to take pics of my daughter even if no one else is in the pool...
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Old 04-03-2006, 08:09 AM   #7
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Rowan, I have heard nothing of this no camera policy but it does make some good idea. Underage models refs to sexual acts. But a girl laying at the beach topless who is say 17.. is that considered explicit sexually? Maybe one day I will ask one of those dudes at the beach what is up and the url of his site. He probably won't tell me. Maybe I should just call the cops but I don't think they will care. Maybe I should call the President?? ha ha.
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Old 04-03-2006, 08:15 AM   #8
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Yeah, topless pics of a minor would probably not be considered sexually explicit, but you'd still be walking a fine line IMHO. Don't forget you cannot legally use them for commercial gain, as well. Not that it stops many sites.

Just on a side note, I want to say that those candid shot sites really creep me out, to know that some guy with a telephoto lens is snapping away at the girls on the beach. shudder
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Old 04-03-2006, 08:25 AM   #9
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sunbathing topless = attracting attention = newsworthy = legal to make pics / report news...


(I'm just guessing ehre )
Only newsworthy if you present it is a newsworthy fashion - taking pictures of someone topless on a beach and then presenting them in a porn context rather than a reporting context would almost certainly blow past the line.

It is a very, very questionable concept.

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Old 04-03-2006, 07:36 PM   #10
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I read a new item months ago that it nude-swimming was banned in Italy
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Old 04-04-2006, 12:10 AM   #11
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"Commercial" photography on ANY Federal and most State owned property, beaches is illegal without a permit. If the photo generates a profit in any way shape or form .... permits are needed.

You probably won't get caught ... but ... the local cops are also probably sick of seeing a continuous stream of assholes shooting unsuspecting women on their daily beat.

Imagine the pain-in-the-ass factor of Federal/State Cops arresting you. The FEDERAL court you might end up in. The bizarre laws that might be on the books.

Fish, Wildlife, Game Officers have search-seizure-arrest powers that are the envy of any local cops.

You also might get the shit beat out of you by a pissed father or boyfriend.
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Old 04-04-2006, 03:36 PM   #12
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to sum up its basically a legal gray area
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Old 04-04-2006, 03:37 PM   #13
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listen...don't start a thread like this unless you post some pics damnit!
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Old 04-05-2006, 03:59 PM   #14
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no pics as i dont do that shit.. Damn,, edonkey and emule took a hit today as many of the servers were confiscated.. anyone have links to these stories??
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Old 04-05-2006, 04:07 PM   #15
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girls sunbathe at a public beach nude for one reason and one reason only " to be seen" photographers are just granting their wishes
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Old 04-05-2006, 05:34 PM   #16
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b Hmmm SObe on the beach waiting for his new talent to wash ashore... SOBE asking about legal issues... heres a guy that steals every day
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Old 04-05-2006, 05:40 PM   #17
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girls sunbathe at a public beach nude for one reason and one reason only " to be seen" photographers are just granting their wishes
yeah, if they didn't want to be seen they'd just go to their own private beach.
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Old 04-05-2006, 05:42 PM   #18
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If she's 18+:
Photo = okay
Publish = not okay

If she's <18:
Photo = not okay
Publish = not okay
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Old 04-05-2006, 05:55 PM   #19
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just go to the beach with a stack of 2257 docs and let em sign those first before you secretly photograph them
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Old 04-05-2006, 05:57 PM   #20
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Old 04-07-2006, 06:13 AM   #21
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I am going to the beach right now to see naked girls being photographed by website owners. How exciting...
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