Does anyone elses CCBill ratios suck this bad? - GoFuckYourself.com

SlamDesigns · 04-06-2006, 08:54 AM

Ok, I contacted CCBill about my ratios, and got back the standard "it's not our fault" reply...but man, this just ain't right. In February I didn't hardly promote any CCBill programs, and my ratio was 1:453, then in March I promoted the hell out of CCBill programs, and my ratio dropped to 1:6191. And no, that's not a typo...the ratio dropped to 1:6191. That's not, "oh, I had a bad month" ratios...that's, "fuck this shit, it's time to quit dealing with CCBill" ratios. My sales literally died after they did their "upgrade and improvements" or whatever the hell they did, and somehow it's a little hard to believe since my traffic was way up in March. So, has anyone elses sales dropped that much with CCBill programs?

Hinc · 04-06-2006, 09:03 AM

They havent been steadily down - but very unstable...for me.

Nicky · 04-06-2006, 09:06 AM

around 1:300 last month

Pandemos · 04-06-2006, 09:06 AM

My ratios up until the end of February were reasonably consistent, roughly 1:1100, but March and April (so far) have slipped to about 1:1800.

Juicy D. Links · 04-06-2006, 09:06 AM

mine have been on point tbh

bogo · 04-06-2006, 10:33 AM

March was a record breaking mth,although this payperiod does not look good at all.

Wiggles · 04-06-2006, 11:45 AM

2 days ago 1:50, yesterday 1:75
no problems here.

pocketkangaroo · 04-06-2006, 11:49 AM

Really varies for me. It seems like they all of a sudden scrub real hard for a week and then it goes back to normal.

redfrog · 04-06-2006, 12:17 PM

till februar : 1:200 now : 1:1900

Violetta · 04-06-2006, 02:18 PM

working fine for me...

Bansheelinks · 04-06-2006, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlamDesigns

Ok, I contacted CCBill about my ratios, and got back the standard "it's not our fault" reply...but man, this just ain't right. In February I didn't hardly promote any CCBill programs, and my ratio was 1:453, then in March I promoted the hell out of CCBill programs, and my ratio dropped to 1:6191. And no, that's not a typo...the ratio dropped to 1:6191. That's not, "oh, I had a bad month" ratios...that's, "fuck this shit, it's time to quit dealing with CCBill" ratios. My sales literally died after they did their "upgrade and improvements" or whatever the hell they did, and somehow it's a little hard to believe since my traffic was way up in March. So, has anyone elses sales dropped that much with CCBill programs?

they blow lately

FilthyRob · 04-06-2006, 02:58 PM

I pretty much stopped checking except like once a month to see what I sold.

BlingDaddy · 04-06-2006, 03:04 PM

What I'd like is for someone to explain the technicality of how CC Bill would be scrubbing.

Hinc · 04-06-2006, 03:08 PM

if it was actually ccbill scrubbing - wouldnt the inbox be loaded with denial emails?

bawdy · 04-06-2006, 03:11 PM

Same traffic sources in March as in February?

After Shock Media · 04-06-2006, 03:13 PM

To really have a bearing on this one must fucking throw ratio's out the damn window, they mean jack shit. CCbill has a tendancy to count all clicks and the way some have set up their galleries and hosted galleries (if you use them) they start counting the person the second they hit the gallery with out even going to the site. Non CCbill sites are more apt to count just site hits, second page, or even join page hits. So what you see in "ratio's" may not be reality anyways.

jcsike · 04-06-2006, 04:28 PM

Seems to me that we have this conversation every year around the same time. Personally, I think it may have something to do with tax season. After the 15th of this things will go back to normal until summer slow down hits, then back to good in August.

I got to think that people have started to pick up on this by now.

latinasojourn · 04-06-2006, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlingDaddy

What I'd like is for someone to explain the technicality of how CC Bill would be scrubbing.

not a technical explanation, but a guess.

i suspect a big processor like ccbill has composite "threshholds". think of an electrical rheostat as an analogy.

during any given month due to a variety of circumstances the processor needs to tweak it's composite chargeback threshhold to stay within merchant account guidelines.

so almost daily someone is turning up and down the "scrub-a-matic" rheostat to keep this threshhold just under the allowable limit.

to me this is the only reasonable explanation for the WIDE variability of conversion ratios from day to day.

as an example from 1998-2003 ccbill was VERY stable---but since visa started getting tougher, conversion ratios are all over the place.

SlamDesigns · 04-07-2006, 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bawdy

Same traffic sources in March as in February?

Same ones, plus some new ones.

SlamDesigns · 04-07-2006, 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcsike

Seems to me that we have this conversation every year around the same time. Personally, I think it may have something to do with tax season. After the 15th of this things will go back to normal until summer slow down hits, then back to good in August.

I got to think that people have started to pick up on this by now.

Well, I didn't get into adult until August/September of last year, so this is actually the first time I've experienced this. I kind of thought that tax season might have something to do with it because my sales are down across the board...just nothing as drastic as the CCBill stats. Glad to hear it's gonna get better, because right now, this sucks. Thanks for the info!

dissipate · 04-07-2006, 12:19 AM

i'm 1:650 with ccbill for the past 6 months

V_RocKs · 04-07-2006, 12:38 AM

Mine have sucked on their program, but if it is NATS or otherwise I am doing fine... Lightspeed, Panchodog... etc...

I think their affiliate program software sucks ass

04-06-2006, 08:54 AM	#1
SlamDesigns Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 2,339	Does anyone elses CCBill ratios suck this bad? Ok, I contacted CCBill about my ratios, and got back the standard "it's not our fault" reply...but man, this just ain't right. In February I didn't hardly promote any CCBill programs, and my ratio was 1:453, then in March I promoted the hell out of CCBill programs, and my ratio dropped to 1:6191. And no, that's not a typo...the ratio dropped to 1:6191. That's not, "oh, I had a bad month" ratios...that's, "fuck this shit, it's time to quit dealing with CCBill" ratios. My sales literally died after they did their "upgrade and improvements" or whatever the hell they did, and somehow it's a little hard to believe since my traffic was way up in March. So, has anyone elses sales dropped that much with CCBill programs?

04-06-2006, 09:03 AM	#2
Hinc Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,577	They havent been steadily down - but very unstable...for me. __________________ webmaster @ adultlist. com AdultList.com - Directory Listings, Advertisements, Hardlinks Loasex.com - Directory and old school TGP - taking submits A few sales/opportunities: High Quality Guest Posts For Sale Network of Aged sites for sales. Get in touch on the email above for info.

04-06-2006, 09:06 AM	#3
Nicky Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 30,071	around 1:300 last month __________________ gfynicky @ gmail.com

04-06-2006, 09:06 AM	#4
Pandemos Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Derbyshire, UK Posts: 956	My ratios up until the end of February were reasonably consistent, roughly 1:1100, but March and April (so far) have slipped to about 1:1800. __________________ http://pandemos.net Where Woman > man

04-06-2006, 11:45 AM	#7
Wiggles Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 14,423	2 days ago 1:50, yesterday 1:75 no problems here. __________________ no sig

04-06-2006, 09:06 AM	#5
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	mine have been on point tbh

04-06-2006, 10:33 AM	#6
bogo Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,982	March was a record breaking mth,although this payperiod does not look good at all.

04-06-2006, 11:49 AM	#8
pocketkangaroo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 8,452	Really varies for me. It seems like they all of a sudden scrub real hard for a week and then it goes back to normal.

04-06-2006, 12:17 PM	#9
redfrog Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: il Posts: 78	till februar : 1:200 now : 1:1900 __________________ http://www.jigglymelons.com \| http://www.jigglymelons.com/mgp

04-06-2006, 02:18 PM	#10
Violetta Affiliate Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 28,735	working fine for me... __________________ M&A Queen

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04-06-2006, 03:04 PM	#13
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04-06-2006, 03:08 PM	#14
Hinc Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,577	if it was actually ccbill scrubbing - wouldnt the inbox be loaded with denial emails? __________________ webmaster @ adultlist. com AdultList.com - Directory Listings, Advertisements, Hardlinks Loasex.com - Directory and old school TGP - taking submits A few sales/opportunities: High Quality Guest Posts For Sale Network of Aged sites for sales. Get in touch on the email above for info.

04-06-2006, 03:11 PM	#15
bawdy Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,424	Same traffic sources in March as in February?

04-06-2006, 03:13 PM	#16
After Shock Media It's coming look busy Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn". Posts: 35,299	To really have a bearing on this one must fucking throw ratio's out the damn window, they mean jack shit. CCbill has a tendancy to count all clicks and the way some have set up their galleries and hosted galleries (if you use them) they start counting the person the second they hit the gallery with out even going to the site. Non CCbill sites are more apt to count just site hits, second page, or even join page hits. So what you see in "ratio's" may not be reality anyways. __________________ [email protected] ICQ:135982156 AIM: Aftershockmed1a MSN: [email protected]

04-06-2006, 04:28 PM	#17
jcsike Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 689	Seems to me that we have this conversation every year around the same time. Personally, I think it may have something to do with tax season. After the 15th of this things will go back to normal until summer slow down hits, then back to good in August. I got to think that people have started to pick up on this by now. __________________

04-07-2006, 12:19 AM	#21
dissipate The Dirty Frenchman Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lost Angeles Posts: 8,904	i'm 1:650 with ccbill for the past 6 months

04-07-2006, 12:38 AM	#22
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,428	Mine have sucked on their program, but if it is NATS or otherwise I am doing fine... Lightspeed, Panchodog... etc... I think their affiliate program software sucks ass