300........

301 enlightened adult webmasters . . .

:1orglaugh

i know you know what i meant thats the whole point.

did you have a child do the math for you and he said " what kind of idiot can't figure out that math " ?


Im sorry if pointing out the obvious makes me an "ass" but that can't be helped , your brought it upon yourself by making a knowingly false assumption about what i said then asking me about it like a smartass expecting some jabs from the peanut gallery .. any child could understand it so i suppose its unreasonable to expect someone in the industry to be able to do such complex math..

where on the website does it say they track rebills only for 14 days? It must be buried somewhere deep. In my opinion it's VERY deceptive to suggest a program is revshare and only track for 2 weeks.

Furthermore I think they would do much better if they gave webmasters what they deserved. Your site might be the greatest in the world but it's NOTHING without traffic. If I was earning income on rebills then I'd be more enthused about promoting the site and will spend a lot more money trying to ramp things up. If it just stays at some low uninspiring level then it's just one of a long list of average sites.

bump for awe changing tracking system some time really soon...

Since Smokey feels like we are all misinterpreting him, here's a compilation of his direct quotes in this thread:

"not much experience in the cam programs"

"Your right, perhaps you got the wrong impression . i was saying i AM new to cam revshare"

"i already stated im new at promoting cams( revshare)"

So with all his lack of experience promoting other revshare cam sponsors besides AWE, he was still able to make these statements regarding AWE's competitors:

"other cam sponsors can provide a longer revshare because they have boring cam girls that are "one show ponies" and wont recurr very long or they load the pages with upsells"

"other cam sponsor has crappy cam girls that dont entice and surfer never spends more money than the original signup you get peanuts"

"what it boils down to folks you can get 20-30% of nothing for life with lots of programs sharing cams

OR

or you can make real cash with an established webcam program like awe with quality feeds.."

"You might find it funny , but if you promote them back 2 back with other sponsors you will also find it profitable"

Conclusion - Smokey is talking out of his ass

Leave Smokey out of this thread. He is doing more good than bad. The bottom line is that AWE only pays for rev share for 14 days.

AWE should change their policy but I have a feeling that they are making backroom deals with some of their major players.

Anyway, it is their company they can fuck you over any way they want.

Its not mentioned at all except for comments in their webmaster forum after they were called on it. They definitely need to put it on their program details so that a prospective webmaster can determine if this is something he wants to sign up for.

I AGREE 8char

I thought they might be making deals also, but I know a couple of major players who yanked them today because of this. They are catching major heat on a number of boards, I suspect we'll see a change soon.

bumpeti bump

hmm interesting thread......

And we can make sure that everybody knows what they're doing, so people stay informed and AWE fuck over as few as possible.

hooray for damagex internet hero , slayer of dragons , champion of champions .. guess how much traffic awe lost today ? zero.. they actually went up a bit .. oh well maybe next time..

i bet if you bump this thread 1000 times you might get a few deadbeats who cant be bother to read past page 1 to pull links.. but then again i doubt they have time to pull links , they are busy nitpicking on boards all day long.. people who promote cams couldnt care less about the details , they care about the bottom line.. and anyone with real traffic doesnt need a board to tell them how long cookies track , they look at their stats

I'm sure you think you're really intelligent. :)

You are so much dumber than I thought... I pity you.

yah i know the numbers must be wrong , someone musta hacked in and increased awe's hits in a rage of fury .. dumb me . doh de doh.. i dont know what numbers mean :1orglaugh

Lol, that is not info sponsors post on their websites. How do you know how long a sponsor cookie is set too? Do you email all your sponsors and ask? I'd imagine most sales reps wouldnt even know that information.

What do you call people who associate themselves with thieves?

prob friends of yours.. i dont know any thieves,,

next.

CLIFFNOTES

smokey " black is black "

haters " so your saying black is red " ?

smokey .. "no"

haters " but you think black is red "

smokey " no "

haters " but i thought you said black was red "

smokey " i didn't"

haters " ok so i thought you said black was red so you must have meant black is red "

smokey" ok well your confused , im telling you now , black is black "

haters " im still confused black is what color ? "

smokey" black is black pay attention "

haters " smokey thinks black is red "

smokey "what part of black is black do you not understand "

haters " but earlier you said the word red so i presumed you meant black was red "

smokey " you presumed wrong"

haters " so black is red "

smokey " dont be an idiot learn to read "

haters " so now your insulting me "

smokey" yes your being an idiot "

haters " how dare you "

smokey" i just call them like i see them "

haters " so black is red "

smokey " no matter how many times you ask its still black give it up "

haters "when you say black is black , what do you mean by that ? "

smokey " figure it out "

hater#2 " i think i found a typo on page #3 "

hater #1 " i just wet myself , we got him now"

hater #2 " we will be internet hero's in the morning "

hater #1 " im gonna tell all my friends "

hater #2 " you have friends ? "

hater #1 " ok i dont really have friends , but if i did i would tell them "

hater #2 " me too "

hater #1 " smokey thinks red is black "

smokey " black is black you tards , get over it "

Let's see, how do you think this changes the fact that you are nothing but a sigwhore who has ZERO arguments, except for insults? Oh, I forgot, it doesn't. :)

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh go back to step #1 your boring..

Its like clubbing baby seals
Quit yer bitching and go get a job ya bum
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"You're". A sigwhore. An illiterate one. The only reason why you're in this thread to begin with is because it's a reason for you to flash your sig. Not that you can argue successfully, we've already seen that your only argument is resorting to insults. At least Headless was fun doing it. Oh well, have the last word, sigwhore.

predicted well ahead of time..:1orglaugh :1orglaugh when in doubt use the old " you missed an apostraphe thus everything you say must be wrong " argument

See? You're worthless. :)

you should go tell all your friends, call em up and be like " i was on a forum and this guy missed an apostraphe and i was like rofl , i corrected him and rofl'd twice , i was quite the hip dude let me tell you"

lol his lights are on but nobody is home
http://www.montana-injury-lawyer.com...-in-the-fo.gif

Gee, coming from a script kiddie who lives on this board, yep, that offends me volumes. :)

Oh, and since we're digressing from the subject at hand AWE are still using deceptive practices to fuck their affiliates out of their rebills.

its been tried before too many people know me and know thats not true .. i was doing bbs's before the internet began..

sorry i think you have used up all the usual troll responses , try something new..

Think you're talking to your mother again? :)

So AWE can spend $310k on jasmin.com give away 185k for the livesexawards.com but they can't pay webmasters for longer than 14 days?

Give the affiliates what they deserve!

morning bump

Well, hopefully webmasters don't fall into their trap. They may or may not change their policy.

14 days is just crap.

gee, wonder where that money came from :2 cents:

I wonder if their old system was like this?

Working on post count power reps.

Damage.. this thread is shaping up to be a monster. Curious is AWE is coming back to this thread, even though they had made their statement earlier. I'm sure they would prefer it to die quickly, though we can all see that ain't happening.

Edit: This thread IS a monster.

This thread is just to inform other webmaster that they only get rev share for 14 days.

For example: If you bought a banner spot on TheHun or Worldsex and referred some customers to AWE you would only get 14 days worth of rev share. According to AWE, they don't think you deserve lifetime rev of that customer. To add insult to injury, AWE says more than likely a customer after 14 days should come back thru your links so you can get credit. What if you want to change your advestisement?

AWE lost much respect.

:thumbsup

bump before showering.

This kind of hating is really sad.
It wasn't that long ago another program was discovered to be using cookies that expired after a few days.
It was exposed on this board and the claim was that it wasn't intentional. Nobody said "b.s." for 7 pages .. where's sonofsam's "we met at a show so I know he's solid" cartoon?

Anyway, I really am curious for those that are *still* hating on AWE after this issue has been beaten to death ... why? Is it some kind of xenophobia? Is it because they are newer to this board than the other programs? I'm really curious.

You've all made your points 6 pages ago ... let it go, there's nothing left to argue ... but a post like this is just an angry mofo with a grudge - so I ask, why?

One little thing more thing: If you've been promoting AWE and this is all a shock to you, I'd highly recommend checking out ALL of your sponsors - test their cookies, signups, etc. and I have little doubt you'd be surprised at a few of them.

There are some pretty big (and loved) programs that haven't been shit on like this and more than a few were exposed here. If you are ignorant about what your own sponsors are doing, it's your own fault. Do your homework - or at least read up once and awhile!

well duh. how the hell do you think sponsors pay
for these bullshit contests and prizes?

It's off the backs of you idiot sheep.