250 whiny bitches

251 whiny bitches

Yes, i've been inside 100's of them, and I'm well aware of member's area upselling. What does this have to do with my post, nothing. I could care less what the sponsor does with my surfer inside their members area as long as he remains a member and I'm compensated. I'm well aware of shady sponsors who divert members to their other sites, but that has nothing to do with point. Why don't you tell me how my scenario is any different than what AWE did?

I've read, and you still haven't answered any of my questions.

Show some courtesy, please, I am not your mother.

guess you should go take english comprehension 101 :winkwink:

Lets get back to the point where AWE doesn't pay for rev share after 14 days.

So what your trying to say then is if you promote AWE you are digging your own grave because you don't get any revshare after 14 days? I would say so because you losing out on rebills.

Gary

Working on post count.... move on

Yeah, digging your own grave because AWE doesn't pay after 14 days.

Smokey is making a good point.

an interesting side note to this thread,

The majority of people with cams in their sigs ( regardless of who the sponsor was ) has good things to say about awe.

The majority of the haters either dont have a sig or arent promoting a cam sponsor in their sig..

There are a few haters in this thread that I believe just go looking for threads to pounce on with their negativity. If they aren't bitching about something or someone I guess they don't feel fulfilled. Those that are doing well and generally happy with life don't resort to beating everything down. There's a few psychiatric terms for it but I won't go there :)

Dude, if you're not a dumb fuck, you sure as hell try your hardest to appear to be one. Basically what you're saying is "I don't give a fuck if they're fucking webmasters up the ass for their rebills, I make good money with them, see sig!"

if your so inept , thats your conclusion , i dont know what to say :1orglaugh


you can continue to bash if you like , anyone who reads through the thread can see i generally agree with your points, i might not like the way you went about it , but hey thats just my 2 cents , i can live with that. Start making shit up and talking trash , and you will get the same in return

What shit am I making up? I just pointed to something that you just mentioned you happen to agree with. So either you need to lay off the pipe, or keep a constant line in your posts, kiss AWE's ass or bash whoever doesn't agree with their practice. You can't both brown-nose and point out their shitty practices. Make up your mind.

My English is fine, since you don't want to address any of my questions or back up any of your claims, then I guess I'll take that as you aren't really interested in discussing the issue anymore.

the only real issue is that it should have been better disclosed in the t.o.s. rather than on the webmaster forum .. i can live with that , and im sure awe can live with that, they plan on changing the tracking method so its a moot point. everything else is just rhetoric and nitpicking based on a few haters , thats why you dont actually see anyone in this thread who has used them post any comparison stats or even something as simple as average member worth from their superior cam sponsors..

you dont have any points, i backed up any claim i made. learn to read i cant help you do that sorry.

whats your points ? shoot we are all ears ?

I agree, Smokey felt compelled to bash other revshare cam programs which he admittedly isn't even familiar with.

Ugh, I've asked you three times for the "many" threads you claim AWE has made on gfy informing us of their 14 day policy. They don't exist and you can't find them.

Wonders never cease. Despite what you think, I don't hate AWE, I still have their links up, although after learning of their policy I won't be adding any new ones. I run tests all the time from the same traffic source and compare $/unique on large blocks of traffic. I compare stats a week after the traffic is sent and then again after 3 months. Last year when I tested 9 like cam programs AWE came in 7th at 2.7c/unique. Not bad, but nowhere near what I make with other programs. They are like all sponsors, they work better for some and not so for others. I wasn't here to bash AWE, i just felt that you were brushing off what many consider to be a huge amount of deception from a sponsor.

You're starting to sound like a broken record. And you're still condoning dubious practices, since you keep defending them.

i didnt bash any cam sponsors, i merely stated my opinions based on my traffic. i can do that because i can do that. You can disagree, but dont put words in my mouth

You obviously arent paying attention to anything written so i cant help you with that sorry . have fun shooting yourself in the foot.

i wouldn't promote revshare that had upsells or cross sales. seems sponsors are trying to fuck affiliates every way they can. are things in adult getting that bad? the only reason this isn't more of an issue is that most webmasters don't sign up themselves to check out the site first. its pretty much the same deal with awe, most webmasters won't check out their forum.

Here is what I am getting at.... It is not cleary stated that you only get rev share for 14 days after you send a surfer or customer.

AWE does not payout pass 14 days after you refer a customer to their program.

That is just plain shitty. I hope they change their policy but they can do whatever they want.

I want other webmaster to be aware that they only get 14 days worth of rev share.

I didn't read the whole thread. Let me 'guess' a resume.

OPTION 1
AWE ONLY pays the first 14 days of 'your' surfer. Every penny spent AFTER day 14 won't be added to YOUR account?

Is that the case?

or

option 2
The 'join' cookie is valid for 14 days, and when you send a surfer, he has 14 days to join so AWE knows he is 'yours' When he joins within these 14 days the surfer will be always 'yours' and you get revshare for live of this surfer

Okay what option is the right one?


If option 1, then damn, who would promote them!?

Option 1.
14 days of rev share then poof...AWE collects for the life of that customer.

What a joke :Oh crap

How much can I earn?
As a JOYourSelf.com and Livejasmin.com affiliate you will be given a 30% commission for sales that are generated from your link.


Why don't they say

How much can I earn?
As a JOYourSelf.com and Livejasmin.com affiliate you will be given a 30% commission for sales that are generated from your link for the FIRST 14 DAYS....

Because if they said that they would have a hell of a time attracting webmasters. So instead they conveniently omit that, allow webmasters to sign up and promote them for months. Then when a few find out what they are doing, they come out and post their policy yet still don't list that as part of their program details on their webmaster page.

I haven't put any words in your mouth, I've only quoted you. Go back and re read this thread and look how you tell everyone you are new to revshare cams, then proceed to make multiple disparaging remarks about AWE's competition. When you say things like "you can make 20 - 30% of nothing" in reference to other sponsors, thats bashing. My point is simple, don't comment on other sponsors until you have tried them.

if you had read the thread you would see i have and that why i made my comment, thats why your putting words in my mouth , a quote is a quote a claim like "multiple disparaging remarks about awe's competition" is called putting words in my mouth since i never made any "disparaging" remark about any sponsor.. if you think 30% of nothing for life is better than 30% of something for 14 days then like i said i dont know how to help you understand math..

I never made those remarks about any sponsor or i would have used a sponsors name and i didnt .. its called an example.. one you obviously missed the point of completely..

Ok so your generalizing about your competition saying that .. "If you think 30% of nothing for life is better than 30% of something for 14 days" . Yet you have not pormoted any other cam sponsors yourself. Ok so you are physic and know that webmasters will make 30% of nothing for life from your competition? How do you know this?

Gary

I have been pushing AWE for awhile. Here's what my stats show:

2006-03-03 USERNAME 29.99
2006-04-07 USERNAME 29.99

That's over 30 days and this guy is still making me money..
I think the 14 day cookie is just for initial join, not once the surfer has an account. If it's not, don't tell AWE I'm still making money off this guy, cause he's paying my bills with all his topping up of credits! :)

He must have come back through your link again. How many times did he skip your link before paying for shows?

divinity, you got lucky as they clearly stated their policy a while ago in this thread.

The amazing thing is this is not a new policy or a new company. I am not a fan of sponsors who lie or cheat. The way the TOS reads and the way it is done in reality does not match.

Who wants to promote someone who would do that?

:disgust

no i wasnt if i was i would have said "IN GENERAL" you make $0 with other cam sponsors." , but i didnt say that ITS CALLED AN EXAMPLE you tard.. an example of math you fail to understand , dont blame your lack of reading on me..
again another idiot who cant read , i never said i havent promoted other cam sponsors.. learn to read seriously, dont just skip to the last page , and read the last moron who made the same mistake you did.. then try to kiss some ass.

You can argue your pointless trivial bullshit all day but the fact remains that that isnt how i feel so , however you want to spin it go right ahead your just making a fool out of yourself . I USE other sponsors , and i have NOTHING against ANY sponsor in this thread ( other than moocash being a bit classless posting links in a flame thread ) i have mentioned time and time again that there are other sponsors out there you are free to use if you dont like awe and that awe isnt the best for everyone , so spin your way around that and make it into me "bashing" sponsors and making "disparaging" remarks , then look back on this thread and smoke some more crack..

No need for name calling and yes I have read the whole thread. You just don't make sense is all I am just trying to figured out what you trying to compare 30% of nothing for life with is all. I asked you some questions regarding your statement and you wanna come back with name calling and trying to belittle someone who is trying to understand your point. I know one thing I won't be promoting AWE.

Gary

Childish comments and belittling seems to be the only way he knows how to debate. I've pointed out several of his comments I felt were disparaging, if he doesn't then so be it, everyone else sees it for what it really is. He dances around any of your questions and just resorts to name calling when he doesn't want to answer. Maybe alienq came back as Smokey.

try reading what you quoted dipshit..

dont want to be insulted ? dont act like an idiot.. if you want to presume what i meant feel free to presume or you could just pay attention to what i said not idiot trolls with nothing better to do than complain

Thats because your an idiot .. try paying attention you wont feel so stupid making false presumptions.. as i have pointed out , i dont feel whatever your trying to insinuate so you can either make false assumption or just ask how i feel about something ( gee what a thought ) , but as i already have told you how i feel and yet you still persist in this myth your beyond hope. i'll just rack you up as another troll with no valuable input..

:thumbsup :thumbsup aint that the truth.. :1orglaugh

don't know why people still talk this?
banned this fucker for life when i read the first page.
it's so clear. nothing need to say!

Ok so I'm a idiot and troll so you say. So explain your math or point or whatever you wanna called it then. Explain this "If you think 30% of nothing for life is better than 30% of something for 14 days" to me as if an idiot then. You gave the example I am justing trying to understand it. How are you coming up with this conclusion? Seems to me you don't like people asking questions. So I am an idiot for asking questions well I guess I am an idiot then. Who's complaining? I wasn't. I was just asking some questions. Jeez I better put on my dunce hat and go to the corner.

Gary

its pretty self explanatory isn't it ? i didnt think anyone couldnt figure it out..

I just asked my daughter the same question , she figured it out, so i hate to say it but a child can figure it out..

but just incase you still cant ill explain

what is 30% of 0 ? ( please tell me you can do math )

now if you had a number HIGHER than ZERO , and took 30% of that would it be BIGGER than zero or SMALLER than zero..

CLIFFNOTES

smokey " black is black "

haters " so your saying black is red " ?

smokey .. "no"

haters " but you think black is red "

smokey " no "

haters " but i thought you said black was red "

smokey " i didn't"

haters " ok so i thought you said black was red so you must have meant black is red "

smokey" ok well your confused , im telling you now , black is black "

haters " im still confused black is what color ? "

smokey" black is black pay attention "

haters " smokey thinks black is red "

smokey "what part of black is black do you not understand "

haters " but earlier you said the word red so i presumed you meant black was red "

smokey " you presumed wrong"

haters " so black is red "

smokey " dont be an idiot learn to read "

haters " so now your insulting me "

smokey" yes your being an idiot "

haters " how dare you "

smokey" i just call them like i see them "

haters " so black is red "

smokey " no matter how many times you ask its still black give it up "

haters "when you say black is black , what do you mean by that ? "

smokey " figure it out "

etc etc

etc etc etc

Never mind I know what you meant. It's useless. You just showed me how big of an ass you really are.

Gary

Dave is correct.