GigaCash and Epassporte - GoFuckYourself.com

just a punk · 04-03-2006, 04:06 PM

Just got the following message from GigaCash:

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Hello,

As a fraud protection measure, please note:

A minimum payout of $100 is required for Epassporte payment option.
To receive payments via Epassporte you must fax a copy of a government
issued photo ID showing your name and address, or government issued
passport.
Please include your account number.
Fax: (310) 734-1577

If we do not receive a fax from you, commission payments may be mailed
to the address on your signup form.

Mike

It looks strange a bit... Has anybody here received something similar?

HairToStay · 04-03-2006, 04:17 PM

Not from GigaCash but ARS and another big sponsor was requesting similar documents due to massive fraud via ePassporte.

just a punk · 04-03-2006, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by HairToStay

Not from GigaCash but ARS and another big sponsor was requesting similar documents due to massive fraud via ePassporte.

The only one the ePassporte fraud could come from is a payer but not a receiver! The affiliates should ask the sponsors for their docs but not the contrary. So should I ask all my sponsors (I'm promoting more than 300 ones) to fax me a copy of a government issued photo ID showing your name and address, or government issued passport??? What if they are cheaters? I don't want my ePassporte account closed because of some fraudulent payer...

And as about the case with GigaCash. I don't know if it's ok to send your personal info to everyone in the USA, but it's not allowed in my country. The personal info here could be provided to the 3rd party by request of court only. Otherwise such an info could be used for criminal purposes.

just a punk · 04-03-2006, 04:51 PM

Personally I'd never sell a sponsor which asked me for some personal ifo such as ID's etc. There is a shitload of others around

Furious_Male · 04-03-2006, 05:05 PM

I did not receive that from them nor will I send it if I do get it.

just a punk · 04-03-2006, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Furious_Male

I did not receive that from them nor will I send it if I do get it.

Here is my answer to them

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Do you know that such a request is a VIOLATION of your own terms and the agreement between GigaCash and your affiliates (note there nothing said that your affiliate have to provide you a copy of my id's when they were signing it)?

But that's ok with me. You just one of 300+ sponsors I'm working with, but my personal info is unique and confidential. Furthermore I also afraid of ePassporte fraud so I also have to ask you to fax me a copy of a government issued photo ID showing the name and address, or government issued passport of the GigaCash's principal. I don't want my ePass account closed in case of some fraudulent sponsor... Would you send me such an information? So will you send me such an info? I guess no. So I'm sorry but I have to stop promoting your program. You will be removed from our database and webmaster directories within 24 hours.

Lykos · 04-03-2006, 05:30 PM

hmm interesting indeed...

just a punk · 04-03-2006, 05:49 PM

Yep that's really interesting. While some sponsors are ready to "kill" everyone just to gather more affiliates, the other ones just doing anything to frighten away their owns

P.S. Looking for a sponsor who won't ask you send away your id's, give away your wife, and give it a key from your home? So take a look at my sig

These sposnsors trust to their affiliates!

just a punk · 04-03-2006, 06:06 PM

No one partnership can to ask me or someone else to send out any confidential info such as scan of id's etc. Furthermore if I'd be a scammer, I'd just do the following:
1) Fax em' an id's of any other person (say an id of any fucker who posing for the content)
2) Change my registration info to that person.
3) Then scam that sponsor.

So is it a way to protect from scammers? No way! It's just a way to lose the affiliates who takes care of his confidential info.

okdesign · 04-04-2006, 02:15 AM

This sucks!!!

pr0 · 04-04-2006, 02:22 AM

I'm sure Gigacash has their reasons. But If a sponsor i was using asked me for my ID, i'd laugh & fax them a copy of my ass.

JFK · 04-04-2006, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx

Personally I'd never sell a sponsor which asked me for some personal ifo such as ID's etc. There is a shitload of others around

Trust goes a long way on both ends. If you are not defrauding what do you have to worry about? Mind you, I would not send the appropriate info to every tom dick and harry just starting out, but sharing the info with long established programs would be not a problem

pstation · 04-04-2006, 02:34 AM

Perhaps the fraudsters were commiting fraud by sending bogus signups using stolen credit cards. I suppose with a check or bank wire, there's at least a paper trail.

flashfire · 04-04-2006, 03:09 AM

I wouldnt send my id to anyone

HairToStay · 04-04-2006, 03:53 AM

I refused to send when asked, because my business is paid by each sponsor, not me personally. If they want a copy of a business license or tax ID that's cool. Otherwise, sorry, I won't send it out. I don't travel, what if I don't drive? I'd have no government issued ID.

From the way I read it, people were signing up in large groups, making a lot of bogus signups, then grabbing the cash from ePassporte very quickly. And, as you know, once the money is out of their account, it's gone. They don't have to keep a bank account on file like PayPal for a sponsor to retrieve funds.

I told the sponsor who wanted this from me I'd been getting payments for 2 years and if they didn't trust me now, go back to sending me a check. I still get paid via ePassporte.

I think (and this is my opinion) most would agree to keep paying via ePassporte if you're a long time webmaster.

Cash · 04-04-2006, 08:04 AM

Such a request came from epassporte, not from Gigacash ...

Michael O · 04-04-2006, 08:30 AM

I only had to do it with ARS.
I sent a page from my passporte and blacked out any sensitive information like my Personal Identification Number and Passporte number.
I have no problems with providing ID with the information blacked out.

04-03-2006, 04:17 PM	#2
HairToStay Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Southcoast, Mass. Posts: 1,521	Not from GigaCash but ARS and another big sponsor was requesting similar documents due to massive fraud via ePassporte. __________________ Make bank by giving your surfers free pics every day and it costs you NOTHING! Use POTD Sponsors to find adult sponsors in more than 75 niches who offer a POTD feature!

04-03-2006, 04:51 PM	#4
just a punk So fuckin' bored Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 32,391	Personally I'd never sell a sponsor which asked me for some personal ifo such as ID's etc. There is a shitload of others around __________________ Obey the Cowgod

04-03-2006, 05:05 PM	#5
Furious_Male Doing the grind since 99 Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Buffalo NY Posts: 16,883	I did not receive that from them nor will I send it if I do get it. __________________ Living in Virtual Reality Contact: Email (preferred): furiousmale .at. gmail - Skype: live:shanedws

04-03-2006, 05:30 PM	#7
Lykos Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: World Posts: 31,030	hmm interesting indeed... __________________

04-03-2006, 05:49 PM	#8
just a punk So fuckin' bored Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 32,391	Yep that's really interesting. While some sponsors are ready to "kill" everyone just to gather more affiliates, the other ones just doing anything to frighten away their owns P.S. Looking for a sponsor who won't ask you send away your id's, give away your wife, and give it a key from your home? So take a look at my sig These sposnsors trust to their affiliates! __________________ Obey the Cowgod

04-03-2006, 06:06 PM	#9
just a punk So fuckin' bored Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 32,391	No one partnership can to ask me or someone else to send out any confidential info such as scan of id's etc. Furthermore if I'd be a scammer, I'd just do the following: 1) Fax em' an id's of any other person (say an id of any fucker who posing for the content) 2) Change my registration info to that person. 3) Then scam that sponsor. So is it a way to protect from scammers? No way! It's just a way to lose the affiliates who takes care of his confidential info. __________________ Obey the Cowgod

04-04-2006, 02:15 AM	#10
okdesign ICQ 278367136 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 24,773	This sucks!!! __________________ Webmasters, Come here for SUPER BIG TITS Highest Conversions, Highest Retention!

04-04-2006, 02:22 AM	#11
pr0 rockin tha trailerpark Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: ~Coastal~ Posts: 23,088	I'm sure Gigacash has their reasons. But If a sponsor i was using asked me for my ID, i'd laugh & fax them a copy of my ass. __________________ __________ Loadedca$h - get sum! - Revengebucks - mmm rebills! - webair (gotz sErVrz)

04-04-2006, 02:34 AM	#13
pstation Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: chicago Posts: 1,135	Perhaps the fraudsters were commiting fraud by sending bogus signups using stolen credit cards. I suppose with a check or bank wire, there's at least a paper trail.

04-04-2006, 03:09 AM	#14
flashfire ICQ 1 6 7 8 5 3 4 9 2 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 13,098	I wouldnt send my id to anyone

04-04-2006, 03:53 AM	#15
HairToStay Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Southcoast, Mass. Posts: 1,521	I refused to send when asked, because my business is paid by each sponsor, not me personally. If they want a copy of a business license or tax ID that's cool. Otherwise, sorry, I won't send it out. I don't travel, what if I don't drive? I'd have no government issued ID. From the way I read it, people were signing up in large groups, making a lot of bogus signups, then grabbing the cash from ePassporte very quickly. And, as you know, once the money is out of their account, it's gone. They don't have to keep a bank account on file like PayPal for a sponsor to retrieve funds. I told the sponsor who wanted this from me I'd been getting payments for 2 years and if they didn't trust me now, go back to sending me a check. I still get paid via ePassporte. I think (and this is my opinion) most would agree to keep paying via ePassporte if you're a long time webmaster. __________________ Make bank by giving your surfers free pics every day and it costs you NOTHING! Use POTD Sponsors to find adult sponsors in more than 75 niches who offer a POTD feature!

04-04-2006, 08:04 AM	#16
Cash Click on my TCG signature Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 20,825	Such a request came from epassporte, not from Gigacash ... __________________ $9.95/month for 15000 GB bandwidth monthly, unlimited (sub)domains and MySQL5, PHP4/5, 500 GB disk storage! ; use any of these invitation codes: 216263692101; 408636009193; 846090586647; my ICQ 30160426!

04-04-2006, 08:30 AM	#17
Michael O More Cowbell Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Nakhom Nowhere Posts: 10,607	I only had to do it with ARS. I sent a page from my passporte and blacked out any sensitive information like my Personal Identification Number and Passporte number. I have no problems with providing ID with the information blacked out. __________________ Truth Teller