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SmokeyTheBear · 03-29-2006, 06:26 PM

Just incase your not up to date on "terminator seeds" ill give some cliffnotes.

Seed companies have started patenting "terminator seeds" that would only produce sterile crops ( thus no seeds and thus requiring farmers to always buy new seeds ). by slowly introducing these genetically engineered crops into the wild we run the risk of serious harm to the ecosystem.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0325-01.htm

Terminator Seeds Suffer Defeat at Global Biodiversity Conference
by Mario Osava

CURITIBA, Brazil - Small farmers and activists celebrated a triumph against Terminator seeds in Brazil Friday, but said they would not let down their guard, and would continue to fight the seeds.

The United States won the award for "most despicable" act of biopiracy, for imposing plant intellectual property laws on occupied, war-torn Iraq in June 2004, making it illegal for Iraqi farmers to re-use seeds harvested from new varieties registered under the law.

The working group in charge of addressing the issue at the Eighth Conference of the Parties to the Convention on Biological Diversity (COP8) maintained the moratorium on field trials of Terminator technology, which produces seeds whose sterile offspring cannot reproduce.

The decision is still pending a vote in next Friday's plenary session in the Mar. 20-31 conference taking place in the southern Brazilian city of Curitiba. But that will merely be a formality.

Only Australia, Canada and New Zealand tried to leave a door open, pushing for "case-by-case" evaluation of permits for field testing, which critics say would weaken the moratorium put in place in 2000 on Terminators, or GURTS (Genetic Use Restriction Technologies).

For the stance they took in this case, and with regard to transgenic crops in general, Australia, Canada and New Zealand were granted the "evil axis" award by an informal coalition of civil society groups that annually hands out the Captain Hook Awards for Biopiracy.

The coalition awarded 10 "prizes" to "biopirates" as well as 10 "cog awards for resisting biopiracy". (Cogs were ships designed to repel attacks by pirates).

The United States won the award for "most despicable" act of biopiracy, for imposing plant intellectual property laws on occupied, war-torn Iraq in June 2004, making it illegal for Iraqi farmers to re-use seeds harvested from new varieties registered under the law.

Swiss biotech giant Syngenta was voted the worst threat to food sovereignty, for its patent on the Terminator potato.

The global small farmer movement Vía Campesina has held near daily demonstrations since COP8 began on Monday, to demand a ban on Terminator seeds.

On Friday, it announced that it would continue holding protests in Curitiba to call for a total worldwide ban on Terminator technology.

Other activists also said they would keep up their guard, even while they celebrated the victory. "There are governments and companies that will keep trying to produce ?suicide seeds'," said Maria Rita Reis, with the Brazilian NGO Terra de Direitos.

GURTS, as Terminator technologies are referred to in the Convention on Biological Diversity, produce "suicide seeds" or "homicide seeds" stressed Hope Shand, research director for the ECT Group (Action Group on Erosion, Concentration and Technology), a Canada-based organisation that works to defend cultural and ecological diversity and human rights.

The commercialisation of Terminator seeds, which would make it impossible for farmers to save seeds from their harvests, would provoke enormous losses for farmers, forcing them off the land and exacerbating hunger and poverty, she maintained.

According to ECT Group estimates, soybean production in Argentina would be hit by an additional 276 million dollars in annual costs, while the cost of wheat production in Pakistan would be 191 million dollars higher.

Numerous activists emphasised that potential contamination and sterilisation of other species would have catastrophic results. There is no need for "field testing" to establish that this technology poses a threat to all life on earth, just as there is no need for field testing on the effects of torture, one activist commented.

The protests voiced by small farmers and environmentalists have fallen on more than fertile ground. Restrictions on Terminator seeds have enjoyed majority support from the outset of COP8. In the European Parliament, this position earned 419 votes in favour and a mere 15 against.

Within the Latin American and Caribbean Group (GRULAC) there is a consensus on maintaining the moratorium on field trials and commercial releases of Terminator seeds and rejecting the proposal for a "case by case" assessment, Alicia Torres, director of Uruguay's National Environment Office and head of her country's delegation to COP8, told IPS.

In the meantime, Syngenta is currently facing troubles in Brazil that go beyond acts of protest.

In addition to the occupation of its test field since Mar. 14 by close to 1,000 rural activists from Brazilian groups associated with the Via Campesina network - like the Movement of Landless Rural Workers û the transnational corporation has just been hit with a fine of one million reals (470,000 dollars) from Brazil's environmental authority.

The sanction stems from the fact that Syngenta's transgenic soybean test crops in Santa Teresa, in the southern state of Paraná, violate national laws because they are located too close to Iguaçú National Park, a nature preserve.

Syngenta and Monsanto have both been consistently targeted by protesters at the parallel meetings to COP8 and by the Global Civil Society Forum, a gathering of social movements and non-governmental organisations held in tents outside the Expo Trade Centre, the venue of the official conference.

DamageX · 03-29-2006, 06:28 PM

And rightly so.

SmokeyTheBear · 03-29-2006, 06:28 PM

and you thought acacia was bad.. lol these guys make acacia look like saints..

Imagine you werent allowed to plant seeds without paying a royalty. even if you grew them yourselves ? ouch

SmokeyTheBear · 03-29-2006, 06:29 PM

i should have mentioned CANADA AUSTRALIA and NEW ZEALAND also won "AXIS OF EVIL" awards .

HizAzPhun · 03-29-2006, 06:32 PM

Damn, that's pretty fucking lame. The only thing I don't get is, couldn't farmers sue these companies saying that they sold them a knowingly defective product? If the companies sell these seeds to farmers without telling them that they are sterile I think they'd go out of business really quickly...

What am I missing Smokey?

Either way, pretty lame that they would go through the effort to develop such a harmful (to THEIR customers, the farmers) product.

PS: The part about the U.S.'s bio-acacia-style shit in Iraq is also fucked up.

SmokeyTheBear · 03-29-2006, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by HizAzPhun

Damn, that's pretty fucking lame. The only thing I don't get is, couldn't farmers sue these companies saying that they sold them a knowingly defective product? If the companies sell these seeds to farmers without telling them that they are sterile I think they'd go out of business really quickly...

What am I missing Smokey?

Either way, pretty lame that they would go through the effort to develop such a harmful (to THEIR customers, the farmers) product.

PS: The part about the U.S.'s bio-acacia-style shit in Iraq is also fucked up.

well they arent hiding the fact they are selling sterile seeds. they are trying to make a business out of it..

If i could sell second generation sterile seeds then i have just bought myself a customer for life.. so these guys can sell seeds at half the price as other seeds because if they do they know the person will be back next year.. if i sell good seeds he wont need nearly as many next year..

The problem is if a farmer doesnt buy the terminator seeds but his farm is next door to a guy that does , theres a chance those seeds could cross with the other seeds and make his seeds sterile.. sure he could sue but in the end they would all have to buy seeds from the seed guy

minusonebit · 03-29-2006, 07:18 PM

Gotta love all of these people fucking with our food. Most of the time the food made by these super seeds has unintended side effects, since the shit isnt natural. Hard to find an orginal strain of seed when everyone has been fucking around with the gentics so much.

Thanks Monsanto.

Webby · 03-29-2006, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

well they arent hiding the fact they are selling sterile seeds. they are trying to make a business out of it..

And some wonder why the perception of em is "scum of the earth"?

You remember the another ploy of selling rainwater in South America? Greed knows no bounds.

The Sultan Of Smut · 03-29-2006, 07:31 PM

As far as I know farmers in Canada (and I suspect other countries) can buy regular seed all they want. The types of seed (as of 5 years ago) that have the terminator gene are the varieties that are resistant to non-selective herbicides like Roundup.

Doctor Dre · 03-29-2006, 07:43 PM

If we create seeds that create plants with superpower, I see nothing wrong with stopping them to reproduce and take over a whole habitat.

SmokeyTheBear · 03-29-2006, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Sultan Of Smut

As far as I know farmers in Canada (and I suspect other countries) can buy regular seed all they want. The types of seed (as of 5 years ago) that have the terminator gene are the varieties that are resistant to non-selective herbicides like Roundup.

yes this is true , the danger is when the wild plants and the genetically enginered plants cross, they will create problems..

The americans won the award for making iraq farmers have to pay royalites to replant the seeds they grew themselves, if they came from a patented variety to begin with....

SmokeyTheBear · 03-29-2006, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

If we create seeds that create plants with superpower, I see nothing wrong with stopping them to reproduce and take over a whole habitat.

the problems happens when the two varieties get crossed..

03-29-2006, 06:26 PM	#1
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	USA wins "most despicable act of biopiracy "award Just incase your not up to date on "terminator seeds" ill give some cliffnotes. Seed companies have started patenting "terminator seeds" that would only produce sterile crops ( thus no seeds and thus requiring farmers to always buy new seeds ). by slowly introducing these genetically engineered crops into the wild we run the risk of serious harm to the ecosystem. http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0325-01.htm Terminator Seeds Suffer Defeat at Global Biodiversity Conference by Mario Osava CURITIBA, Brazil - Small farmers and activists celebrated a triumph against Terminator seeds in Brazil Friday, but said they would not let down their guard, and would continue to fight the seeds. The United States won the award for "most despicable" act of biopiracy, for imposing plant intellectual property laws on occupied, war-torn Iraq in June 2004, making it illegal for Iraqi farmers to re-use seeds harvested from new varieties registered under the law. The working group in charge of addressing the issue at the Eighth Conference of the Parties to the Convention on Biological Diversity (COP8) maintained the moratorium on field trials of Terminator technology, which produces seeds whose sterile offspring cannot reproduce. The decision is still pending a vote in next Friday's plenary session in the Mar. 20-31 conference taking place in the southern Brazilian city of Curitiba. But that will merely be a formality. Only Australia, Canada and New Zealand tried to leave a door open, pushing for "case-by-case" evaluation of permits for field testing, which critics say would weaken the moratorium put in place in 2000 on Terminators, or GURTS (Genetic Use Restriction Technologies). For the stance they took in this case, and with regard to transgenic crops in general, Australia, Canada and New Zealand were granted the "evil axis" award by an informal coalition of civil society groups that annually hands out the Captain Hook Awards for Biopiracy. The coalition awarded 10 "prizes" to "biopirates" as well as 10 "cog awards for resisting biopiracy". (Cogs were ships designed to repel attacks by pirates). The United States won the award for "most despicable" act of biopiracy, for imposing plant intellectual property laws on occupied, war-torn Iraq in June 2004, making it illegal for Iraqi farmers to re-use seeds harvested from new varieties registered under the law. Swiss biotech giant Syngenta was voted the worst threat to food sovereignty, for its patent on the Terminator potato. The global small farmer movement Vía Campesina has held near daily demonstrations since COP8 began on Monday, to demand a ban on Terminator seeds. On Friday, it announced that it would continue holding protests in Curitiba to call for a total worldwide ban on Terminator technology. Other activists also said they would keep up their guard, even while they celebrated the victory. "There are governments and companies that will keep trying to produce ?suicide seeds'," said Maria Rita Reis, with the Brazilian NGO Terra de Direitos. GURTS, as Terminator technologies are referred to in the Convention on Biological Diversity, produce "suicide seeds" or "homicide seeds" stressed Hope Shand, research director for the ECT Group (Action Group on Erosion, Concentration and Technology), a Canada-based organisation that works to defend cultural and ecological diversity and human rights. The commercialisation of Terminator seeds, which would make it impossible for farmers to save seeds from their harvests, would provoke enormous losses for farmers, forcing them off the land and exacerbating hunger and poverty, she maintained. According to ECT Group estimates, soybean production in Argentina would be hit by an additional 276 million dollars in annual costs, while the cost of wheat production in Pakistan would be 191 million dollars higher. Numerous activists emphasised that potential contamination and sterilisation of other species would have catastrophic results. There is no need for "field testing" to establish that this technology poses a threat to all life on earth, just as there is no need for field testing on the effects of torture, one activist commented. The protests voiced by small farmers and environmentalists have fallen on more than fertile ground. Restrictions on Terminator seeds have enjoyed majority support from the outset of COP8. In the European Parliament, this position earned 419 votes in favour and a mere 15 against. Within the Latin American and Caribbean Group (GRULAC) there is a consensus on maintaining the moratorium on field trials and commercial releases of Terminator seeds and rejecting the proposal for a "case by case" assessment, Alicia Torres, director of Uruguay's National Environment Office and head of her country's delegation to COP8, told IPS. In the meantime, Syngenta is currently facing troubles in Brazil that go beyond acts of protest. In addition to the occupation of its test field since Mar. 14 by close to 1,000 rural activists from Brazilian groups associated with the Via Campesina network - like the Movement of Landless Rural Workers û the transnational corporation has just been hit with a fine of one million reals (470,000 dollars) from Brazil's environmental authority. The sanction stems from the fact that Syngenta's transgenic soybean test crops in Santa Teresa, in the southern state of Paraná, violate national laws because they are located too close to Iguaçú National Park, a nature preserve. Syngenta and Monsanto have both been consistently targeted by protesters at the parallel meetings to COP8 and by the Global Civil Society Forum, a gathering of social movements and non-governmental organisations held in tents outside the Expo Trade Centre, the venue of the official conference. __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

03-29-2006, 06:28 PM	#2
DamageX Marketing & Strategy Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Former nomad Posts: 14,293	And rightly so. __________________ Whitehat is for chumps If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

03-29-2006, 06:28 PM	#3
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	and you thought acacia was bad.. lol these guys make acacia look like saints.. Imagine you werent allowed to plant seeds without paying a royalty. even if you grew them yourselves ? ouch __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

03-29-2006, 06:29 PM	#4
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	i should have mentioned CANADA AUSTRALIA and NEW ZEALAND also won "AXIS OF EVIL" awards . __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

03-29-2006, 06:32 PM	#5
HizAzPhun Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: vachinatown Posts: 470	Damn, that's pretty fucking lame. The only thing I don't get is, couldn't farmers sue these companies saying that they sold them a knowingly defective product? If the companies sell these seeds to farmers without telling them that they are sterile I think they'd go out of business really quickly... What am I missing Smokey? Either way, pretty lame that they would go through the effort to develop such a harmful (to THEIR customers, the farmers) product. PS: The part about the U.S.'s bio-acacia-style shit in Iraq is also fucked up. __________________ see sig.

03-29-2006, 07:18 PM	#7
minusonebit So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: [email protected] Posts: 7,391	Gotta love all of these people fucking with our food. Most of the time the food made by these super seeds has unintended side effects, since the shit isnt natural. Hard to find an orginal strain of seed when everyone has been fucking around with the gentics so much. Thanks Monsanto.

03-29-2006, 07:31 PM	#9
The Sultan Of Smut Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver Posts: 4,325	As far as I know farmers in Canada (and I suspect other countries) can buy regular seed all they want. The types of seed (as of 5 years ago) that have the terminator gene are the varieties that are resistant to non-selective herbicides like Roundup.