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Old 03-26-2006, 12:48 AM   #1
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Canadian hunters started shooting and clubbing harp seal pups

By Paul Darrow

OFF CANADA'S EAST COAST (Reuters) - Canadian hunters started shooting and clubbing harp seal pups on Saturday at the start of an annual hunt that is the focus of a tech-savvy protest by animal rights groups.

This year, 325,000 young seals will be killed on the ice floes off the East Coast where the animals gather.

Unusually warm weather means the floes are a fraction of their normal size and thickness, prompting hunters to kill the seals individually rather than clubbing them to death en masse as they cluster on the ice in pools of blood.

"It's slow going. The ice is not full of seals all over the place," said Roger Simon of Canada's federal fisheries ministry, which oversees the hunt.

The crack of rifle fire could be heard continually as hunters in boats shot seals as they lay on tiny floes and then dashed over to the bodies in hopes of retrieving them before they slipped off the ice and sank.

Once the animals are killed, they are skinned and taken into the hunters' boats. The pelt is taken to make coats while the rest of the carcass is usually left behind.

At one point a hunter, frustrated at the activists' presence, picked up the bloody carcass of a skinned seal and threw it at a small inflatable craft full of protesters and journalists. It hit the boat and sank.

One sealing boat steamed straight toward the journalists' craft and turned at the last moment, sending a wave crashing over the observers.

Canada says the hunt gives the local economy a crucial boost and helps keep a harp seal population of almost six million animals in check.

The Humane Society of the United States has chartered a 110-foot (30-meter) boat to follow the hunt and is putting film and videos of the killings on its Web site.

"It's disgusting when you stand out here and look at what the seals have been through already. They're clinging on for life as it is, thanks to the effects of global warming," said the society's Rebecca Aldworth.

"I'm really appalled the Canadian government continues to allow this slaughter. There's no need for anyone to be out here killing seals," she told Reuters from the hunting zone.

CANADA SAYS KILLINGS ARE HUMANE

Prime Minister Stephen Harper said Canada was behaving responsibly and would enforce rules ensuring that the seals were killed humanely.

"Unfortunately here we're to some degree the victim of a bit of an international propaganda campaign," he said on Friday.

Celebrities such as former French film star Brigitte Bardot and ex-Beatle Paul McCartney called on Ottawa this week to stop the hunt.

Aldworth repeated calls for an international boycott of Canadian seafood to protest what she said was "incredible cruelty at the hunt, including dragging conscious seals across the ice with boathooks, shooting seals and leaving them to suffer in agony and skinning seals alive."

The first part of the hunt, which takes place near the Magdalen Islands in the Gulf of St. Lawrence, usually takes about 10 to 12 days to complete. This year's quotes is just over 90,000 seals.

The second and larger stage, off the coast of Newfoundland, starts on April 4.
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It's funny how the right to life is different for the 'cute' animals. I've yet to see a celebrity lie down in protest of the slaughter of rats...
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Its a good thing some canadians are helping PREVENT several fish species from becoming extinct by the over population of seals
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It's funny how the right to life is different for the 'cute' animals. I've yet to see a celebrity lie down in protest of the slaughter of rats...
True, its just like that with people. Nobody cares about fat ugly people
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If seals had the look of a lobster, nobody would care.
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I wonder how seal tastes like.
My Eskimo grandfather eats seal oil on blueberries. I can not even describe how disgusting it tastes and smells.
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sortof a fatty chum. It actually tastes a bit like "spam"
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sortof a fatty chum. It actually tastes a bit like "spam"

I need to try babyseal tenderloin sometime.
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Seals get good publicity because they are "cute". They have faces that apparently communicate innocence and softness to some people. That makes it less popular than shooting wild boar or killing off overpopulations of deer or bears, example.

http://www.dfg.ca.gov/hunting/bear/mgmtharv.html

The population is managed and has still been allowed to grow : "A 2004 harp seal population survey found the harp seal population to be stable and healthy at approximately 5.8 million animals, nearly triple what it was in the 1970s."

History and information: http://www.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/seal-phoque...faits_tl_e.htm

Most people couldn't stand to see how cattle are turned into steaks either... but that is life.

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omg! poor little seal pups! i can't even look at my grandparents killing a pig,goat or chicken...how can i watch this?
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Those damn Canadians are bloodthirsty bastards. I'll bet it's them who start the next big war. Truth be told it was the Canadians who told Bush if he didn't attack Iraq that he was a pussy. They goaded him into it and now they sit on the sidelines and laugh.
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Its a good thing some canadians are helping PREVENT several fish species from becoming extinct by the over population of seals
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And he hits one deep...this could go all the way....
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Baby seals are clubbed to death only for their pelts. $75 per seal.

Ever worn a lobster skin jacket?
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Those damn Canadians are bloodthirsty bastards. I'll bet it's them who start the next big war. Truth be told it was the Canadians who told Bush if he didn't attack Iraq that he was a pussy. They goaded him into it and now they sit on the sidelines and laugh.
Spoken like a true idiot.

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I don't have a problem with them hunting the seals ... I have a HUGE problem with the way they do it.

I'd love to go up there with a bat and hit some hunters like I'm swingin for the fences.

Fuckin assholes. Why can't they just shoot them and be done, why the torture.
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That's about the gist of it right there.
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Why don't they just shot them between the eyes instead of clubbing them?
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Why don't they just shot them between the eyes instead of clubbing them?
Yeh, I bet thats a real easy task!

I hardly see how hitting them over the head is any less "humane" than shooting them. They're dead either way, and shooting isn't even an instant death. You whack an animal over the head with a heavy club and its going to die pretty quick. You shoot an animal, who knows how long it could take to die. Shooting a deer and chasing it until it drops and dies is very common, it isn't an instant death.

Seals are cute. Thats the only reason anyone cares. Truth is, the hunt is needed to control the population. Oh my God, rationale, no way!
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The Chinese inhumanely slaughter dogs for fur and dog meat every day of the week.

Dogs are chained to fences with razor sharp wires then stabbed in the groin and beat with baseball bats to break their bones to make them suffer as much pain as possible to boost the andrenalin which they believe makes the dog meat tender.

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It's funny how the right to life is different for the 'cute' animals. I've yet to see a celebrity lie down in protest of the slaughter of rats...
Not to mention the hundreds of thousands of hares, small mammals, insects, and worms killed annually to plant the crops that feed vegetarians
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Boo Fucking Hoo!!!

Why don't you tree huggers bitch at mother nature for drowning over 300,000 baby seals this past season? I'm sure that death was pretty humane! Cows are sacred animals in Islam but we line them up in rows and slice their throats. They die a slow painful death but you still eat Porterhouse and Hamburgers. Is it because a cow isn't cute?

Oh snap...what about Veil? Baby cows are so adorably cute but you don't think about that when you order veil parmessan, do you?

I dated a girl once that said she wouldn't eat any animal that was "cute"...I dumped her ass faster than yesterday's Taco Bell. So only cute animals deserve protection? I don't see any hippie groups out there protecting the three-toed sloth or the rats they have in New Orleans running rampant.

Deer are pretty cute but I'll shoot one in the stomach instead of the heart just so I can follow its blood trail before I have to field dress it. It's a lot cleaner for me and so what if the deer suffers. It will still taste just as good.
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Boo Fucking Hoo!!!

Why don't you tree huggers bitch at mother nature for drowning over 300,000 baby seals this past season? I'm sure that death was pretty humane! Cows are sacred animals in Islam but we line them up in rows and slice their throats. They die a slow painful death but you still eat Porterhouse and Hamburgers. Is it because a cow isn't cute?

Oh snap...what about Veil? Baby cows are so adorably cute but you don't think about that when you order veil parmessan, do you?

I dated a girl once that said she wouldn't eat any animal that was "cute"...I dumped her ass faster than yesterday's Taco Bell. So only cute animals deserve protection? I don't see any hippie groups out there protecting the three-toed sloth or the rats they have in New Orleans running rampant.

Deer are pretty cute but I'll shoot one in the stomach instead of the heart just so I can follow its blood trail before I have to field dress it. It's a lot cleaner for me and so what if the deer suffers. It will still taste just as good.
I agree with everything but the deer. What kind of idiot wants to shoot a deer in the stomach?
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I agree with everything but the deer. What kind of idiot wants to shoot a deer in the stomach?
I was just being nasty. I didn't mean that. However, my aim is sometimes off a bit and I only hunt with bows.
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I was just being nasty. I didn't mean that. However, my aim is sometimes off a bit and I only hunt with bows.
I was just wondering why anyone would purposely shoot a deer in the gut. Nevermind me.
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Baby seals are clubbed to death only for their pelts. $75 per seal.

Ever worn a lobster skin jacket?
But lobsters are boiled alive in excruciating pain so that our lard asses would eat some of their tail-meat. Ever eaten a lobster, my friend?
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But lobsters are boiled alive in excruciating pain so that our lard asses would eat some of their tail-meat. Ever eaten a lobster, my friend?
I've worn a lobster jacket before and it was fabulous!
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Boo Fucking Hoo!!!

Why don't you tree huggers bitch at mother nature for drowning over 300,000 baby seals this past season? I'm sure that death was pretty humane! Cows are sacred animals in Islam but we line them up in rows and slice their throats. They die a slow painful death but you still eat Porterhouse and Hamburgers. Is it because a cow isn't cute?

Oh snap...what about Veil? Baby cows are so adorably cute but you don't think about that when you order veil parmessan, do you?

I dated a girl once that said she wouldn't eat any animal that was "cute"...I dumped her ass faster than yesterday's Taco Bell. So only cute animals deserve protection? I don't see any hippie groups out there protecting the three-toed sloth or the rats they have in New Orleans running rampant.

Deer are pretty cute but I'll shoot one in the stomach instead of the heart just so I can follow its blood trail before I have to field dress it. It's a lot cleaner for me and so what if the deer suffers. It will still taste just as good.
Seal pups are hunted for their pelt ONLY.

Not food.

You seem to have missed that point entirely.
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Seal pups are hunted for their pelt ONLY.

Not food.

You seem to have missed that point entirely.
What damn difference does that make?
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Seal pups are hunted for their pelt ONLY.

Not food.

You seem to have missed that point entirely.
What's the difference between hunting for pelt or food? There are plenty of alternatives for each.
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But lobsters are boiled alive in excruciating pain so that our lard asses would eat some of their tail-meat. Ever eaten a lobster, my friend?
Keyword - EAT.

Yes, I've eaten many a lobster in my day.

That is not the point.

The point is - baby seal pups are slaughtered for their pelt only so the shallow-minded fashion people can be in style and satisfy their vanity. The meat is completely wasted and left on the ice floes to rot.

As for lobsters, I'm somewhat curious how you determined they're boiled in "excruciating pain". From what I've read over the years, its been documented that their brains are too small to register pain.
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What's the difference between hunting for pelt or food? There are plenty of alternatives for each.
I agree there's alternatives, yes.

But there's also a big difference between sustenance and vanity.
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If you go into a grocery store, you can find almost every part of the cow for sale. Including the bain. So why the waste with the seals. There has to be some commercial value to the meat.
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Deer are pretty cute but I'll shoot one in the stomach instead of the heart just so I can follow its blood trail before I have to field dress it. It's a lot cleaner for me and so what if the deer suffers.
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They talked about it all day on tv arround here ... I don't really give a shit
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Keyword - EAT.

Yes, I've eaten many a lobster in my day.

That is not the point.

The point is - baby seal pups are slaughtered for their pelt only so the shallow-minded fashion people can be in style and satisfy their vanity. The meat is completely wasted and left on the ice floes to rot.

As for lobsters, I'm somewhat curious how you determined they're boiled in "excruciating pain". From what I've read over the years, its been documented that their brains are too small to register pain.
Dude, keyword is consume. Seals are consumed (not the meat, but the pelts). Lobsters are consumed. Pigs scream while being slaughtered and they also are consumed.

Lobster is a delicacy, it's not required by your body to function properly. While you may like exquisite cuisine, some like wearing seal coats. It's not in your power to tell them what to do since you're just being a hypocrite yourself.

Btw, none of the seal meat is being wasted in mother nature. It's not a synthetic material so it gets processed throughout the years.

As for lobsters and pain, that was an example since I'm not familiar with how they function. In any way, they are living creatures that we needlessly kill for luxury.
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Seal pups are hunted for their pelt ONLY.

Not food.

You seem to have missed that point entirely.
I have NEVER seen a person wear a baby seal skin jacket, a baby seal skin suit, or baby seal skin pants. So tell me, what fashion item do they use to baby seal pelts to make?

Honestly, I have never heard of one single person brag about their baby seal skin purse or shoes. Ever.

P.S. Alligators were endangered at one point, where were you when THEY needed your help or are you only an equal opportunity tree hugger?
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The point is - baby seal pups are slaughtered for their pelt only so the shallow-minded fashion people can be in style and satisfy their vanity. The meat is completely wasted and left on the ice floes to rot.
No, the "only" reason isn't vanity. The most important reason is population control. How many times does this need to be said for people to understand it? If the seal population is not controlled to an amount that the environment can sustain, not only will many other species be eliminated but many seals will also die from hunger and sickness.

The "vanity" part is what gets hunters out there hunting the seal. Without that, the government would need to pay people to do the killing, which actually isn't that uncommon to begin with. Cities nationwide do this all the time with everything from deer to birds.

Furthermore, can seal meat even be eaten? Is it edible? Is it good? If the answer is "yes" to any of these questions, then sure, maybe the hunters should start using the meat. Even if they don't, that meat will be eaten by creatures of the sea. Again, circle of life.

Not all animals are worth eating, by the way. I don't see anybody eating rats. I've heard raccoons make for horrible meat and people all over country hunt raccoons every year specifically for the pelt. The coyotes eat the meat.
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Keyword - EAT.

Yes, I've eaten many a lobster in my day.

That is not the point.

The point is - baby seal pups are slaughtered for their pelt only so the shallow-minded fashion people can be in style and satisfy their vanity. The meat is completely wasted and left on the ice floes to rot.
By the way, a question for you: are you familiar with what the leather goth/bondage gear for shallow-minded fashion people is made out of?
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