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bogo · 03-21-2006, 10:15 PM

where can i buy shares with tim hortons? show me a link please..

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CTV.ca News Staff

While Tim Hortons shares won't hit the market for days, there is already a feeding frenzy for them.

However, if you want to buy into the initial public offering of Tim Hortons stock, you're likely out of luck.

"Your chances of getting Tim Hortons shares on the initial public offer are going to be slim to none," said Pat Naccarato of AIC Investment Services.

"I guess its going to be a hot IPO and everyone is trying to get a share of it but its hard to get," said investor Steve Li.

Fellow investor Ming Lee has resigned himself to buying the shares on the open market. "That's fine, that's fine. It's like winning the lottery -- I just don't have a chance," he said.

The venerable chain is one of the great Canadian business stories of the past quarter-century.

Toronto Maple Leafs defenceman Tim Horton and Ron Joyce, a former Hamilton police officer and franchisee of the first Tim Hortons store, founded the chain.

Wendy's paid $580 million for the franchise in 1995, but now wants to spin it off.

Demand for the stock has pushed up the initial price up.

Tim Hortons Inc., owned by Wendy's International Inc., plans to raise the price of its stock up by about 20 per cent.

The shares will likely be priced between $25 to $27 Cdn per share. The previous price range was between $21 to $23 per share, the company said late Monday.

The company did not say why it raised the share price range.

Tim Hortons, based in Oakville, Ont., has also granted underwriters the option to buy an additional 4.35 million shares of its common stock at the IPO price.

The 33 million shares could raise about $890 million, based on the amended offering.

While analysts say this is a good company that is well run, it is also a mature company and some analysts are cautious about the opportunity for investors, said CTV's business editor Linda Sims.

"The question is: How much is the company going to grow and therefore, how much are the shares going to grow?" Sims told CTV Newsnet.

There are one Tim Hortons in Canada for every 11,000 people. "That is twice the penetration that McDonald's has in the United States," said Sims.

She said Tim Hortons is counting on growth in the United States. There are 288 Tim Hortons outlets in the United States.

"So again, some concerns about this restaurant, which is not well-known at all in the U.S.," said Sims.

One analyst sounded pessimistic.

"Their growth in the future is going to come from expansion in the U.S. -- and the U.S. landscape is littered with Canadians who've failed in their U.S. expansion," said Laura Wallace of Coleford Investment Management.

Even with the sale of the 33 million shares, Wendy's would still own about 83 per cent of Tim Hortons. It plans to spin off the rest of the shares by the end of the year.

Key shareholders pressured Wendy's, which has had sluggish sales compared to Tim Hortons' steady growth, to unload its Tim Hortons shares.

Tim Hortons plans to list its common shares on the New York Stock Exchange and the Toronto Stock Exchange using the THI symbol.

The company said it will use net proceeds from the IPO to repay debt owed to Wendy's.

In 2005, Wendy's revenue rose four per cent to $3.78 billion from $3.64 billion in 2004, but sales at Wendy's restaurants that have been open one year or longer fell 3.7 per cent for all of 2005. It was the first such decline in 18 years.

In 2005, Tim Hortons earned a profit of $191.1 million on sales of $1.48 billion.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...hub=TopStories

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GTS Mark · 03-21-2006, 11:15 PM

Wow thanks for the info

DH

AlmightyZeus · 03-21-2006, 11:49 PM

Lloyd Robertson gave us the heads up today. HAHAHAHA

JFK · 03-22-2006, 12:08 AM

like they say , where is the growth potential?? There one on every corner already

Shortbread · 03-22-2006, 12:10 AM

Yeah just watched that on tv

Yngwie · 03-22-2006, 12:16 AM

If they put another fucking time hortons in this town (sudbury, ontario) I am going on a killing spree. christ, even esso gas stations have a goddamn tim hortons in them and their coffee sucks horse shit.

The Captain · 03-22-2006, 01:33 AM

bring them to the states already please

After Shock Media · 03-22-2006, 01:41 AM

Correct me if I am wrong but doesnt Wendys own them?

flashfire · 03-22-2006, 03:18 AM

I wouldnt buy they're shares...they wont grow much, would be a bust in the US I think

Dagwolf · 03-22-2006, 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Correct me if I am wrong but doesnt Wendys own them?

It's in the first post.

StuartD · 03-22-2006, 04:46 AM

Yeah, I stayed up late just to watch that news bit... it should be interesting to see how this stock plays out over it's first year or two.

Manowar · 03-22-2006, 05:30 AM

awesome!!!!

xclusive · 03-22-2006, 05:35 AM

there is a lot of growth potential in the US market but it's never going to be that huge here as it is in Canada.

StuartD · 03-22-2006, 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bogo

In 2005, Tim Hortons earned a profit of $191.1 million on sales of $1.48 billion.

Man, those operating costs are killer!!

Cash · 03-22-2006, 05:43 AM

Tim Hortons has an excellent coffee and capuccino!

Wiggles · 03-22-2006, 06:38 AM

we have like 27 of them for a population of 150,000 in Sudbury Ontario, more then any other city in Canada.

klixxxgirl · 03-22-2006, 08:20 AM

PPL! stop talking about Tim Hortons!!!.. i'm drooling already.. haven't had it in over a year!

p.s. i'm in panama now.. anyone want to come visit me with a cup of coffee?

imageman · 03-22-2006, 09:22 AM

I have to agree their coffee sucks i had some in Windsor Ontario as StarBucks was miles away from the place i was staying. The coffee tastes old chalky and luke warm.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yngwie

If they put another fucking time hortons in this town (sudbury, ontario) I am going on a killing spree. christ, even esso gas stations have a goddamn tim hortons in them and their coffee sucks horse shit.

candyflip · 03-22-2006, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK

like they say , where is the growth potential?? There one on every corner already

They've only recently hit the states.

We've almost got them on every corner here in Rochester, NY already.

49 more states to go.

03-21-2006, 10:15 PM	#1
bogo Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,982	Tim hortons where can i buy shares with tim hortons? show me a link please.. --------------- CTV.ca News Staff While Tim Hortons shares won't hit the market for days, there is already a feeding frenzy for them. However, if you want to buy into the initial public offering of Tim Hortons stock, you're likely out of luck. "Your chances of getting Tim Hortons shares on the initial public offer are going to be slim to none," said Pat Naccarato of AIC Investment Services. "I guess its going to be a hot IPO and everyone is trying to get a share of it but its hard to get," said investor Steve Li. Fellow investor Ming Lee has resigned himself to buying the shares on the open market. "That's fine, that's fine. It's like winning the lottery -- I just don't have a chance," he said. The venerable chain is one of the great Canadian business stories of the past quarter-century. Toronto Maple Leafs defenceman Tim Horton and Ron Joyce, a former Hamilton police officer and franchisee of the first Tim Hortons store, founded the chain. Wendy's paid $580 million for the franchise in 1995, but now wants to spin it off. Demand for the stock has pushed up the initial price up. Tim Hortons Inc., owned by Wendy's International Inc., plans to raise the price of its stock up by about 20 per cent. The shares will likely be priced between $25 to $27 Cdn per share. The previous price range was between $21 to $23 per share, the company said late Monday. The company did not say why it raised the share price range. Tim Hortons, based in Oakville, Ont., has also granted underwriters the option to buy an additional 4.35 million shares of its common stock at the IPO price. The 33 million shares could raise about $890 million, based on the amended offering. While analysts say this is a good company that is well run, it is also a mature company and some analysts are cautious about the opportunity for investors, said CTV's business editor Linda Sims. "The question is: How much is the company going to grow and therefore, how much are the shares going to grow?" Sims told CTV Newsnet. There are one Tim Hortons in Canada for every 11,000 people. "That is twice the penetration that McDonald's has in the United States," said Sims. She said Tim Hortons is counting on growth in the United States. There are 288 Tim Hortons outlets in the United States. "So again, some concerns about this restaurant, which is not well-known at all in the U.S.," said Sims. One analyst sounded pessimistic. "Their growth in the future is going to come from expansion in the U.S. -- and the U.S. landscape is littered with Canadians who've failed in their U.S. expansion," said Laura Wallace of Coleford Investment Management. Even with the sale of the 33 million shares, Wendy's would still own about 83 per cent of Tim Hortons. It plans to spin off the rest of the shares by the end of the year. Key shareholders pressured Wendy's, which has had sluggish sales compared to Tim Hortons' steady growth, to unload its Tim Hortons shares. Tim Hortons plans to list its common shares on the New York Stock Exchange and the Toronto Stock Exchange using the THI symbol. The company said it will use net proceeds from the IPO to repay debt owed to Wendy's. In 2005, Wendy's revenue rose four per cent to $3.78 billion from $3.64 billion in 2004, but sales at Wendy's restaurants that have been open one year or longer fell 3.7 per cent for all of 2005. It was the first such decline in 18 years. In 2005, Tim Hortons earned a profit of $191.1 million on sales of $1.48 billion. http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...hub=TopStories -------------

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