Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

as a former babeblogger, i know that the majority of the traffic that views the galleries is total crap. the only way they make money is by slangin' AFF or putting PPC ads in the galleries. yank the accounts if you want. you won't see much of a difference sales wise.

The only people that make any real sales are the major players like bods.

Originally Posted by shap

I think these blogs pollute their sites and junk up their look with 1000000 links because they aren't making enough money to pay the bw bill and that's the only way they can survive. If you can't pay your bw bill by promoting sites the proper way then you are doing something wrong. And if you have trouble paying the bw just do us all a favour and quit.

Originally Posted by shap

As I said there is more to it. By not taking a stand against it I am encouraging more people to misuse our content. Once one person does it people think it is acceptable and then it becomes a Major problem. For the past 4 months we've been getting alot of emails asking if they can do that as well. It's to the point where I'm going to be tough on those using promo content. We are very fair and give more content than any other sponsor. All I ask is that our affiliates follow our rules. Those that can't won't be a Twistys affiliate and as a result those that are affiliates will probably enjoy more success with our promo content :thumbsup

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

it just seems like bad business for people who run sites and blogs to only use one sponsor. of course the main focus should be the site the content came from but if you aren't promoting other things as well you're throwing money away.

Originally Posted by shap

I've been around the web a long time. I thought I knew what bad ratios were. LOL. That all changed with this blog craze. I've never seen ratios so bad in my life. Like Simple said people are no longer selling. They upload pics and put together a web page but aren't selling.

Originally Posted by JJSLIMM

I agree and it doesn't really sit well with us either. I alone have spent countless hours trying to enforce it..but is it hurting our bottom line? Doubtful..as our content is what is really being sold on the page and targeted.

The fact is AFF still gets traffic from affiliates using all our content and that is what's troublesome.

I guess your could say it's the program's resposibility to enforce the rules of the program and how your content is being used. What makes it hard though is the fact that if you enforce rules like this then there's another program just waiting to pick up that traffic.

So in conclusion I would say trying to enforce that shit any more than than a polite email would probablly hurt your bottom line more then anything.

Here is a question though? How would affiliates feel if we had AFF banners on all our hosted galleries?


P.S. I think AFF should signup to Dannicash and start sending us some traffic back ;)

Originally Posted by BoogieCFZ

dont badmouth blogging as a whole my friend. :)

there is babe blogging, and then there is real honest to god blogging. I can list a dozen good blogs that do it right and I'll bet you dimes to dollars you'd love their ratios.

If done right blogging is a massive search engine traffic catcher and if you target the right keywords its easy to catch people who are already looking for an excuse to spend money.

Originally Posted by XPays

most webmasters are very friendly and cooperative when they are notified of a possibly necessary tweak. stubborn webmasters who would rather go their own way and sever the relationship are the minority usually.

Originally Posted by JJSLIMM

Here is a question though? How would affiliates feel if we had AFF banners on all our hosted galleries?

Originally Posted by shap

I don't know much about the whole blogging. I'm just referring to the blogging I've made reference to in this thread. I know there are many slick nice blogs out there. I'm just referring to the ones that seems to gravitate towards us LOL.

Originally Posted by XPays

when people stop stealing your images or misdirecting traffic you'll know something is wrong. being web policeman is a part of the biz and with as much as you invest in your content, there is no end in site. best of luck--

Originally Posted by Dollarmansteve

Am I the only one who sees a little bit of irony with this thread given this Thread



Im not supporting people who are abusing the free promo content... but, its kinda hard to police when there is so much of it available... victim of your own success maybe?

:2 cents:

Originally Posted by shap

What about a super bowl commercial. Is it bad business to buy a 30 second ad and promote only Pepsi? Your thinking is flawed. By limiting what you are selling if you do the job right you increase your chances of making a sale. This isn't roulette. Our content is to be used to promote Twistys. Anybody who educates the surfer on what they are looking at and sells them on Twistys will make more money promoting 1 thing than promoting 12 things.

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

well in this case you would be pepsi, so you would be buying and hense of course you would only be promoting yourself. if you want to use this analogy you can look at it this way too: tv networks don't just advertise pepsi in every commercial throughout an entire program. they diversify and know that if someone isn't interested in product x, they might be interested in product y. i totally understand your stance but you have to look at it from an affiliate stance as well.

Originally Posted by shap

I've kept quiet about this long enough. Blogs are running wild taking our content and promoting AFF and others. They put a simple banner at the bottom to Twistys and think that makes it OK! Not in my books. Am I the only one fed up with this practice? The worst part is arguing with these blog owners. They are telling me I'm wrong :Oh crap

This is for other paysite owners that have high quality content. For Ftv Girls, Atk, Karups, Met Art, Hegre, Scoreland, MediumPimpin, Sapphic Erotica, 1byday, Matt's Models, Danni.com, Penthouse, Lensman Playboy and others. How do you feel about blogs taking your content and using it like this.

Example 1: fusker style with links between pics to other sponsors
http://www.bodsforthemods.com/galler...-With-Faith-4/
http://www.bodsforthemods.com/galler...-Modelos-Babe/

Example 2: taking the content and just putting a banner at the bottom. AFF above content and link back to the blog below content
http://www.galleries.badgirlsblog.co..._all_over.html
http://www.galleries.badgirlsblog.co...utdoors .html

Example 3: one link before content and then AFF links below content
http://babes.timekiller.com/index~sh...62~spn~ndn.htm

Example 4: Pure rip of content no links to the source
http://www.allthepink.com/album.php?id=224

Example 5: more fusker style using Penthouse content to promote AFF and others
http://glam0ur.com/gals/penthouse/je...er_emerson.htm

Example 6: more penthouse content theft. Links to another sponsor up top, misleading thumbs below gallery and just a small penthouse banner at the bottom (just to make everything ok :mad: )
http://nudeparadisehotel.com/the-perfect-ass

So the question to paysite owners is simple, Do you think this is acceptable?

Originally Posted by XPays

on another sour note- blogs and user forums/communities are pretty similar architectures and the "user"-posted stolen content from most of the programs already mentioned here is staggering. all of the big paysites are ripped and posted by these vermon/thieves. we all know it- but what are companies like twistys et al. doing about it? it seems like the tide is in favor of the vermon as of right now....

even if one's content is watermarked - that is no excuse for a webmaster to misuse it. the surfer mentality becomes "why should i pay?" and we are left with only newbies and hardcore fans paying....

Originally Posted by XPays

on another sour note- blogs and user forums/communities are pretty similar architectures and the "user"-posted stolen content from most of the programs already mentioned here is staggering. all of the big paysites are ripped and posted by these vermon/thieves. we all know it- but what are companies like twistys et al. doing about it? it seems like the tide is in favor of the vermon as of right now....

even if one's content is watermarked - that is no excuse for a webmaster to misuse it. the surfer mentality becomes "why should i pay?" and we are left with only newbies and hardcore fans paying....

Originally Posted by shap

Yeah I know you know the feeling on many different levels.

Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

ok, please for the love of god stop calling them "blogs" they're not blogs. They're babeblogs. REAL blogs have a good amount of text in the posts. not just pictures. shap, I'll show you my blogs if you want. so you can see the difference.

Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

ok, please for the love of god stop calling them "blogs" they're not blogs. They're babeblogs. REAL blogs have a good amount of text in the posts. not just pictures. shap, I'll show you my blogs if you want. so you can see the difference.

Originally Posted by BoogieCFZ

thank fucking christ someone else is saying this I was getting tired of preaching.

they're not blogs, they're shit. and an exercise in futility.

they'd make twice as much just posting text links to hosted galleries. I should know I got a blog that does that ;)

Originally Posted by shap

When I promote companies on our free sites I promote one company per gallery/sales page. If I can't be profitable by promoting that one company then either that company doesn't convert well or (more than likely) I don't know how to sell them properly.

Originally Posted by shap

Ok my bad.

Babelogs.

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

yes, true but to me, its just about maximizing traffic. there are just some people who won't be interested in joining the paysite but you might be able to sell them dating or penis pills, etc. if they are already a member of twistys there is no hope for a sale if you have nothing else advertised. usually when make single gallery, i just use the main sponsor but when it comes to entire sites, you gotta mix it up a little in my opinion.

Originally Posted by shap

By not taking a stand against it I am encouraging more people to misuse our content.

Originally Posted by Bods4Mods

I have had a nice chat with Kevin about what is being posted and he will forward to you the convo and how i will post Twistys from now on. I keep hearing that babeblogs themselves are not profitable. I can only speak for myself, and Bods is highly profitable and 95% of this profit somes from model affiliate programs. With that said you have a problem, no sweat - i will modify my galleries for you to make you comfortable.....Twistys has never been one of my best sellers but I like Dean's work ;)

Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

hi bods :) Bodsforthemods is definately one of the best babeblogs out there. but you have to admit that a large portion of the other babeblogs are total crap.

Originally Posted by Pornwolf

Damn, it seems that Dean Capture has as many fans in the webmaster community as the models themselves. I'm a fan of his work too. The guy makes mud-ducks into swans! LOL