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Old 03-16-2006, 05:27 PM   #1
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Does death scare you, are you afraid of the unknown. Death is either one of two things:

1. One long peaceful sleep
2. A better life than we are living now

The thing that troubles me about death is that we can?t control it and we don?t know what happens, no one has ever come back to tell us. None of us know how or when we are going to leave this life, that means we should live everyday as if it is our last. I was having a discussion about this last night with a friend and she asked me what I fear in life, I said my only fear was death, everything else in my life I can control, but I cant control death.

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Old 03-16-2006, 05:30 PM   #2
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2. A better life than we are living now
That's probably the right answer.


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Old 03-16-2006, 05:30 PM   #3
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I don't fear death... there's no point in fearing the things we can't control. I'm just ready for anything!
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Old 03-16-2006, 05:31 PM   #4
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That's probably the right answer.


Nice pic's btw...
I agree with that, there has to be something else after life, we cant just switch of for good.
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Old 03-16-2006, 05:32 PM   #5
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I have accepted the fact that we all have to die sometime and if your numbers up ,so be it..I live for the day
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Old 03-16-2006, 05:35 PM   #6
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Nice pics. as for death. Nope. Im not scared. Not for me at least.
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How can DEATH be life? Death is death. You dead. Is the squirl that is mushed road meat in some squirley pardise in the sky? Um no.

Do I fear death? Not in the sense about what's going to happen after I die. I fear what would happen to my son if I died before he grows up. I fear how I may die, if it's going to be painful. I fear all the things that will happen that I will not get to see. Man waking on Mars, The Devil Rays winning the World Series, Watching TV in the future and seeing a breaking news report that former President GW Bush has died. I mean I'll miss a lot of good things.
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Old 03-16-2006, 05:40 PM   #9
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i like sexy female ass, don't want to think about death.
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1. One long peaceful sleep
2. A better life than we are living now
It's neither, actually.

There's no reason at all for us to think that there is 'life after death', for there is no such thing as a soul. Any thinking otherwise is just 'Santa Claus for adults' stuff and is the realm of the simple minded.

It's not possible for humans to imagine death, for we cannot imagine what it is like not to have feelings.

Death is not a loss to the individual (if you are unable to sense that it is a loss then it is not a loss). It is only a loss to the people who cared about that individual when he was alive.
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Old 03-16-2006, 05:48 PM   #11
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my friends find it so weird everytime I would talk about death, especially my own death. they say it's easy for me to talk about death like I'm talking about the weather. I tell them that death is a fact of life. Only those who feel that they are still missing on some things in this life fear death.
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Old 03-16-2006, 05:50 PM   #12
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I'm not really afraid of dying. If there is something else after this, I hope it's better than this... if there is nothing else, I guess I wont care cause I wont know.
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I'm not really afraid of dying. If there is something else after this, I hope it's better than this... if there is nothing else, I guess I wont care cause I wont know.
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Old 03-16-2006, 05:58 PM   #14
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Your soul is eternal. There is no death in the spiritual plane.

Your body is just temporary housing for each of your incarnations.

How can you prove this? Very simply. Look at a dead body. What's missing? The body is still there isn't it. All the physical parts are still there.

What's been taken out of it is the soul's energy that makes the body function. Thus it is the soul that actually contains the life force not the body itself. The body is just a physical structure. But without a life force it will not function.

What defines a person's identity? A blab of bones, muscles, and blood? Certainly not. It is the soul driving the body that creates the unique being.

Death is merely the begining of another life. Death is an illusion when you look at it from the other side. A shedding of your soul's worn out old clothes so to speak.

In reality, there is no time. In infinity everything exists in the same moment of eternal perpetuity.

When your soul transgresses to the highest levels of spirituality it no longer needs to incarnate and at that point you are one with the universal life force which we think of in simple terms as God.
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Your soul is eternal. There is no death in the spiritual plane.

Your body is just temporary housing for each of your incarnations.

How can you prove this? Very simply. Look at a dead body. What's missing? The body is still there isn't it. All the physical parts are still there.

What's been taken out of it is the soul's energy that makes the body function. Thus it is the soul that actually contains the life force not the body itself. The body is just a physical structure. But without a life force it will not function.

What defines a person's identity? A blab of bones, muscles, and blood? Certainly not. It is the soul driving the body that creates the unique being.

Death is merely the begining of another life. Death is an illusion when you look at it from the other side. A shedding of your soul's worn out old clothes so to speak.

In reality, there is no time. In infinity everything exists in the same moment of eternal perpetuity.

When your soul transgresses to the highest levels of spirituality it no longer needs to incarnate and at that point you are one with the universal life force which we think of in simple terms as God.
Dude, there no such thing as a soul.
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Old 03-16-2006, 06:24 PM   #17
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Your soul is eternal. There is no death in the spiritual plane.

Your body is just temporary housing for each of your incarnations.

How can you prove this? Very simply. Look at a dead body. What's missing? The body is still there isn't it. All the physical parts are still there.

What's been taken out of it is the soul's energy that makes the body function. Thus it is the soul that actually contains the life force not the body itself. The body is just a physical structure. But without a life force it will not function.
So when my car dies it's soul transended to another plane? I mean it just sits there so it must have soul too.

By the way you are retarded. Take basic biology and you'll find out what makes a body function.

"Life force" WTF are you Highlander or something?
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you either exist or you don't exist. we've all not existed before. why would it be any different when we stop existing again? could there be some greater plain of existence? maybe. clearly there is a lot about life and our universe that we do not know.

i personally plan to live forever. quantum immortality.
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So when my car dies it's soul transended to another plane? I mean it just sits there so it must have soul too.

By the way you are retarded. Take basic biology and you'll find out what makes a body function.

"Life force" WTF are you Highlander or something?
unfortunately this discussion dives much deeper than biology. science does not, and cannot explain so many things.
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What scares me about dieing is being away from the people I love. And what petrifies me with fear is losing one of those beloved people.
Now, it's also a little scary that to die you usually have to go thru a painful experience (that sucks, even if what comes after the death is not that bad...)
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and what I mean by a painful experience is a car accident, cancer, a heart attack, a wound, etc...
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Foremost did that brunettes ass fall off?

As for death I have no fears of death for myself. After living my life as I have and despite that enjoying almost every second of it to the point of purposely trying to recall certain painful events just so I can remember them. I have no qualms about it and it is just another part of life that I will accept when it comes.
The only part of death I fear is for others. I would hope that I can outlive those that mean so much to me and I to them, not for selfish reasons but so that they would not have to suffer or feel bad for my own passing.
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Some closed minded people posting in this thread.
That's putting it mildly.

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That's putting it mildly.

I love the guy that says there are no such things as souls the best.

But it's also ignorant to think without a doubt we do have souls. It's a question that just cannot be answered. I assume you're talking about a soul in some sort of spiritual sense, and not simply energy. Energy always exists. But I wouldn't consider it to be ones soul. At least not the kind most people would think you are referring to. The kind that floats around after you die and goes to sit in the clouds and play chess with Jesus.
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That's putting it mildly.

I love the guy that says there are no such things as souls the best.

Well, I could have gone into more detail I suppose.


There's no reason at all for us to suspect that there is such a thing as a soul. There is no reason to suspect that there are fairies, leprechauns, Allah or pixies either.

Some people do not like the thought that once they die there is nothing afterwards, so they invent the idea of souls and afterlives to make themselves feel better. It's the same concept as to why people believe in god.

There's nothing bad personally about dying, since once you are dead, you don't know that you are dead, so there is nothing to feel bad about. A person's death only adversely affects the people they leave behind who will mourn them.

Since a person's self-awareness and feelings are made possible by the presence of a brain and all the chemical reactions that entails within that brain, it is reasonable to suspect that once that brain is dead, that person no longer has any ability to be self aware or to have feelings.

As I see it, there are three kinds of death: biological death (when the body and brain are dead and there is no electro-chemical activity within), genetic death (when there are no more living decendants of an individual left and hence the genes passed on by the individual have disappeared along that genetic line) and memory death (when the dead individual has been forgotten by everyone alive).

We will all undergo biological death. Some of us will undergo genetic death. Almost all of us will undergo memory death.
But, since we will not be alive to witness these things, it doesn't matter one bit, regardless of any opnion otherwise. How can it matter to an individual if that individual is not alive to be able to regret it?
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Death and Dying

Death is the end of life. Dying is the process of approaching death, including the choices and actions involved in that process.

Death has always been a central concern of the law. The many legal issues related to death include laws that determine whether a death has actually occurred, as well as when and how it occurred, and whether or not another individual will be chargeable for having caused it. Increasingly, the law has had to deal with complex issues regarding the termination of medical carehahaha8212;such as when an artificial respirator or a feeding tube is withdrawn from a comatose person, or when chemotherapy is withheld from a terminally ill cancer patient. With the development of increasingly complex and powerful medical procedures and devices in the middle and late twentieth century, the U.S. legal system has established rules and standards for the removal of life-sustaining medical care. These laws and judicial decisions have established, for example, the right of individuals to refuse medical treatmenthahaha8212;sometimes called the right to diehahaha8212;as well as the boundaries of that right, particularly as regards the state's interest in protecting life and the medical profession's right to protect its standards. The issues involved in death and dying have often pitted patients' rights groups against physicians' professional organizations as each vies for control over the decision of how and when people die.
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But it's also ignorant to think without a doubt we do have souls. It's a question that just cannot be answered. I assume you're talking about a soul in some sort of spiritual sense, and not simply energy. Energy always exists. But I wouldn't consider it to be ones soul. At least not the kind most people would think you are referring to. The kind that floats around after you die and goes to sit in the clouds and play chess with Jesus.
I've had personal experiences after family members have died.

So sorry, but when you experience this stuff first hand you have a wide open perspective on the afterlife.
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Correct. This however does not alter the facts regarding death.
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Well, I could have gone into more detail I suppose.


There's no reason at all for us to suspect that there is such a thing as a soul. There is no reason to suspect that there are fairies, leprechauns, Allah or pixies either.

Some people do not like the thought that once they die there is nothing afterwards, so they invent the idea of souls and afterlives to make themselves feel better. It's the same concept as to why people believe in god.

There's nothing bad personally about dying, since once you are dead, you don't know that you are dead, so there is nothing to feel bad about. A person's death only adversely affects the people they leave behind who will mourn them.

Since a person's self-awareness and feelings are made possible by the presence of a brain and all the chemical reactions that entails within that brain, it is reasonable to suspect that once that brain is dead, that person no longer has any ability to be self aware or to have feelings.

As I see it, there are three kinds of death: biological death (when the body and brain are dead and there is no electro-chemical activity within), genetic death (when there are no more living decendants of an individual left and hence the genes passed on by the individual have disappeared along that genetic line) and memory death (when the dead individual has been forgotten by everyone alive).

We will all undergo biological death. Some of us will undergo genetic death. Almost all of us will undergo memory death.
But, since we will not be alive to witness these things, it doesn't matter one bit, regardless of any opnion otherwise. How can it matter to an individual if that individual is not alive to be able to regret it?
You're being way too closed mind and scientific.

People, including leading scholars of the day, used to believe the world was flat, that it was impossible to fly, that the earth was the center of the Universe, that it was impossible to send a person's voice to the other side of the world on a copper wire, that electricty was impossible to harness, that landing a human on the moon was fantasy, that it was impossible to build a computer small enough to fit in your hand, etc., etc.

How can you look into another's eyes and not sense their soul?

Are you saying your consciousness and mind is nothing more than a bunch of chemical reactions inside this blob?



No fricking way.
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Death doesn't scare me.. but I have a weird fascination about being seen dead. Kinda embarassing to be dead in front of everyone.. especially if you're guts are hangin' out and ya got some weird look on your face. I dunno.

I want to know if what Sarte and Kierkegaard and all those guys say is true, like the last moments before death are actually the most vital, and define our existence. That'd be cool. I'd love to be all calm and relaxed... suave and going out in style. Sure beats cryin' or wrything in agony.

I kinda like those chix btw... not 'porny' at all. Shower feels very 'verite' can actually sense some real personalities there. Not sure if that's what you were going for, but good stuff- works for me.
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1. Physical body ? the physical body is a summary, an outer expression and an end product of all the other subtle bodies that we cannot see. The physical body is visible and can be perceived by all, but its appearance is entirely determined by all the other ?invisible? bodies. For example blushing is a direct physical consequence of spiritual processes of shyness or bashfulness that appear as high speed swirls and whirls in the astral body. The same can be said for most habits such as biting one?s nails or tapping nervously with one?s foot. The roots of such behaviour can be directly observed only in the higher, subtle human bodies. Thus, the whole physical expression of humans, starting with their face expression, height, forms and length of their hands, fingers, toes etc. and finishing with their eye expression is nothing more or less then outer expression of spiritual processes, which the clairvoyant observer can perceive directly in the subtle bodies of the individual in question.

2. Etheric body ? the life bearer, the body that keeps us alive. The rhythm of the heart, the breathing process, the function of all internal organs and so on, is in fact a direct consequence of the action exercised by the etheric body. All living entities on our planet posses etheric bodies. It is the life force which brings the otherwise dead minerals into living motion and which has also the capacity to make the living entities grow and reproduce themselves. All plants and animals also have etheric bodies.

3. Astral body ? the bearer of all emotions and feelings. Due to the astral body perceptions are also made possible, such as hearing, seeing, smelling, tasting, touching etc. This privilege is given only to the representatives of the human and animal kingdom. Plants and minerals do not posses astral bodies. Thanks to our astral bodies we can be cold or hot, feel sad or happy or experience pleasure or pain. The astral body can sometimes also overwhelm us with emotions, which can be positive or negative. If these are not dealt with on time, very often they damage parts of the etheric body below and that is how we can get sick, develop ulcers, or have a headache. 90% of all diseases are caused by irregular function of the astral body, i.e. due to abnormal, uncontrolled or highly depressed emotions, passions or feelings.

4. Mental body ? at this level begins the differentiation between the animals and humans in general. Through the mental body a thinking process becomes possible. Some highly developed animals also possess mental bodies in an embryonic state. On the other side, many degraded representatives of the human race have extremely primitive mental bodies. People in general believe that the mental body (or the human intellect as they call it) is the crown of the creation and nothing exists above it. In reality nothing can be further away from the truth. Human mind is only the intermediary, the messenger, similar to the Greek and Roman Gods Hermes and Mercury ? the Gods of Mind and Intellect. The mind is capable to translate partially some of the God?s reality into human language or a concept, but the origins of the idea or the concept itself reside in the divine, celestial realm above it, i.e. they reside high above the minuscular human intellect.

5. Causal body (or the Higher Mind) ? The three bodies above the mental body, starting with the Higher Mind cannot be directly perceived by the usual mind, which we use in our every day thinking process (the mental body). On the level of the Causal body we deal with abstract ideas, impulses and notions such as love for humanity, high aspirations and ideals or striving for self-perfection and purification. There is a huge difference between love of one or several particular individuals (such as a spouse, child, parent or friend) and love and sacrifice towards humanity and all human beings in general. There is also a big difference between the love and care towards one or several pets and the love and struggle towards the implementation of the idea of conservation and saving the Earth with all animals inhabiting it and so on. All this pertains to the realm of the Higher Mind or the Causal body.

6. Buddhi body (or the Intuitional Self) ? this is the part of us that is associated with wisdom, truth, intuition and compassion. In daily life we are largely unaware of it, because it is located at two levels above the mental body. Buddhi body determines the major periods of our lives (usually 3 or 4, but sometimes more). This is the power that inspires us for 4-5 years during our high school or University years for example, or which leads us during periods of relationship or marriage. If the marriage dissolves and another long-lasting relationship begins that means that the buddhi body has switched off from one source and switched on to another. The same rule applies for switching between long lasting trends in career or long lasting changes in the place of residence, etc.

7. Athma body (or the Higher Self) ? This is the only body that never really dies. In the esoteric Christianity this body is also called ?the spirit?, or the part which reincarnates from one body to another, in order to reach higher perfection and purification. The Athmanic body determines the life path of the spirit through many of its reincarnations, thus where it is really leading us can be determined only if we compare the major patterns in at least several of our previous lives. The circumstances in various lives change all the time, but the general trends do not. In other words, it is not the circumstances, but the quality and the substance of the moral impulses that is carried over.
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Old 03-16-2006, 10:50 PM   #38
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You're being way too closed mind and scientific.

People, including leading scholars of the day, used to believe the world was flat, that it was impossible to fly, that the earth was the center of the Universe, that it was impossible to send a person's voice to the other side of the world on a copper wire, that electricty was impossible to harness, that landing a human on the moon was fantasy, that it was impossible to build a computer small enough to fit in your hand, etc., etc.

How can you look into another's eyes and not sense their soul?

Are you saying your consciousness and mind is nothing more than a bunch of chemical reactions inside this blob?



No fricking way.
Being scientific is in no way being closed minded. In fact, it's exactly the opposite way around.

Science has always been the way to drive humanity forward, whereas those who simply 'believe' things because they feel like it have always been the ones to hold humanity back. See religious people for proof of that.

Whereas in ancient times people believed that the Earth was flat, there was reason to believe that it may in fact be spherical. And it was indeed found to be spherical. We no longer live in times of scientific ignorance but there is still no reason to think that there may be a soul.

Notice how you did not provide any reason whatsoever to suggest that there may be a human soul. Simply wanting to believe that there is a soul is no reason to actually believe that there is one, and belief never ever interferes with actual reality. For example, if you were to not believe in gravity, it would not make gravity magically unexist.

If you want to believe that there is a soul if it helps you get through the day then no-one is going to have a problem with that. But in terms of real reality, opinion is neither here nor there. Things exist or don't exist outside of the realms of belief or disbelief. The way that I get through the day is to gain knowledge and accept the real and discard the unreal. Our boats are all floated in lots of different ways. This is also the reason why I reject religion; regardless of any desire I might have to think that there is a 'higher consciousness', since there isn't one I refuse to believe that there is one.

The human brain is nothing more than matter in which electrochemical processes occur. It's not exactly a romantic reality but it is reality so that's what I accept.
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1. Physical body ? the physical body is a summary, an outer expression and an end product of all the other subtle bodies that we cannot see. The physical body is visible and can be perceived by all, but its appearance is entirely determined by all the other ?invisible? bodies. For example blushing is a direct physical consequence of spiritual processes of shyness or bashfulness that appear as high speed swirls and whirls in the astral body. The same can be said for most habits such as biting one?s nails or tapping nervously with one?s foot. The roots of such behaviour can be directly observed only in the higher, subtle human bodies. Thus, the whole physical expression of humans, starting with their face expression, height, forms and length of their hands, fingers, toes etc. and finishing with their eye expression is nothing more or less then outer expression of spiritual processes, which the clairvoyant observer can perceive directly in the subtle bodies of the individual in question.

2. Etheric body ? the life bearer, the body that keeps us alive. The rhythm of the heart, the breathing process, the function of all internal organs and so on, is in fact a direct consequence of the action exercised by the etheric body. All living entities on our planet posses etheric bodies. It is the life force which brings the otherwise dead minerals into living motion and which has also the capacity to make the living entities grow and reproduce themselves. All plants and animals also have etheric bodies.

3. Astral body ? the bearer of all emotions and feelings. Due to the astral body perceptions are also made possible, such as hearing, seeing, smelling, tasting, touching etc. This privilege is given only to the representatives of the human and animal kingdom. Plants and minerals do not posses astral bodies. Thanks to our astral bodies we can be cold or hot, feel sad or happy or experience pleasure or pain. The astral body can sometimes also overwhelm us with emotions, which can be positive or negative. If these are not dealt with on time, very often they damage parts of the etheric body below and that is how we can get sick, develop ulcers, or have a headache. 90% of all diseases are caused by irregular function of the astral body, i.e. due to abnormal, uncontrolled or highly depressed emotions, passions or feelings.

4. Mental body ? at this level begins the differentiation between the animals and humans in general. Through the mental body a thinking process becomes possible. Some highly developed animals also possess mental bodies in an embryonic state. On the other side, many degraded representatives of the human race have extremely primitive mental bodies. People in general believe that the mental body (or the human intellect as they call it) is the crown of the creation and nothing exists above it. In reality nothing can be further away from the truth. Human mind is only the intermediary, the messenger, similar to the Greek and Roman Gods Hermes and Mercury ? the Gods of Mind and Intellect. The mind is capable to translate partially some of the God?s reality into human language or a concept, but the origins of the idea or the concept itself reside in the divine, celestial realm above it, i.e. they reside high above the minuscular human intellect.

5. Causal body (or the Higher Mind) ? The three bodies above the mental body, starting with the Higher Mind cannot be directly perceived by the usual mind, which we use in our every day thinking process (the mental body). On the level of the Causal body we deal with abstract ideas, impulses and notions such as love for humanity, high aspirations and ideals or striving for self-perfection and purification. There is a huge difference between love of one or several particular individuals (such as a spouse, child, parent or friend) and love and sacrifice towards humanity and all human beings in general. There is also a big difference between the love and care towards one or several pets and the love and struggle towards the implementation of the idea of conservation and saving the Earth with all animals inhabiting it and so on. All this pertains to the realm of the Higher Mind or the Causal body.

6. Buddhi body (or the Intuitional Self) ? this is the part of us that is associated with wisdom, truth, intuition and compassion. In daily life we are largely unaware of it, because it is located at two levels above the mental body. Buddhi body determines the major periods of our lives (usually 3 or 4, but sometimes more). This is the power that inspires us for 4-5 years during our high school or University years for example, or which leads us during periods of relationship or marriage. If the marriage dissolves and another long-lasting relationship begins that means that the buddhi body has switched off from one source and switched on to another. The same rule applies for switching between long lasting trends in career or long lasting changes in the place of residence, etc.

7. Athma body (or the Higher Self) ? This is the only body that never really dies. In the esoteric Christianity this body is also called ?the spirit?, or the part which reincarnates from one body to another, in order to reach higher perfection and purification. The Athmanic body determines the life path of the spirit through many of its reincarnations, thus where it is really leading us can be determined only if we compare the major patterns in at least several of our previous lives. The circumstances in various lives change all the time, but the general trends do not. In other words, it is not the circumstances, but the quality and the substance of the moral impulses that is carried over.
Do you really believe that?

If you do then it's perfectly ok, as long as it's not going to inspire you to violence of course.

But it doesn't change actual reality. No-one has the power to do that. We are what we are and that's the way it is.
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I don't wanna comment about Death, though I am not scared of it. I just like to admire those two hot lesbians in the shower room.
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If you are afraid of death, then you don't have the right to live..
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If you are afraid of death, then you don't have the right to live..
Of course you do.
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death is irrelevant; we'll face it when the time comes... I just hope I get to see it coming... I don't think I could sleep not having stared it in the face.
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I think that is wrong. why should we not be afraid of the unknown.
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i know that dreaded day will come. all of us shall pass this eart only once. so i must make the most of it. afraid of death, yes i am. but im preparing myself for it.
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Whereas in ancient times people believed that the Earth was flat, there was reason to believe that it may in fact be spherical. And it was indeed found to be spherical. We no longer live in times of scientific ignorance but there is still no reason to think that there may be a soul.
You realize thousands of years from now this current era will be ancient times as well? It is extremely ignorant to think more will not be learned or proven false. Look at how far we've come in the past 1000 years. You think we're done discovering how this world works? Hardly. Read up on quantum mechanics. Double slit experiment, schroeder's cat, all that jazz.
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Not exactly afraid but i'm not yet ready to meeth death in the eye. I can't take the idea that I will be leaving my loved ones behind.
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You realize thousands of years from now this current era will be ancient times as well? It is extremely ignorant to think more will not be learned or proven false. Look at how far we've come in the past 1000 years. You think we're done discovering how this world works? Hardly. Read up on quantum mechanics. Double slit experiment, schroeder's cat, all that jazz.
Actually, it's extremely ignorant to believe in something (with no basis for that belief) and then to expect it to be a reality, because you feel that it is.

Like I said before, there's no reason whatsoever for us to believe in souls. There's nothing which occurs in nature which would reasonably cause us to think that there is a soul, and since you 'pro-soul' people are in the assertive, perhaps you can prove that there is one. Succeed, and I'll believe you.

If you're going to say all that 'in the past, in the future, bla bla' stuff then you have to realise that in the past people believed in fairies, angels, Thor and that old crazy women were witches. Perhaps in a thousand years people will say 'omg people used to believe in souls, lol'.

The advances in the past 1000 years have pointed to there NOT being a soul. Try not to let personal feelings and the personal need to 'live forever' cloud your judgment.
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