chodadog

I opened my tGP last week, and for the last few days, i've been chatting with a bunch of guys here. Getting my submit page listed on various resource sites.. getting some small trades going. You know, little things to slowly build the traffic.

Over the last few weeks, i've had some great help from people that i consider to be fairly big in the industry including and not limited to: RocHard, Boneprone, FatPad, Dynamite, ProgGod, BossHawg, Eric from adult.com, Dynamite, 12 clicks, just to name a few.

All have been extremly helpful.

I've had some guys who were either too busy to help, or just not really wanting to help. Fair enough. I don't mind, couldn't hurt to ask though.

Upon messaging sleazy dream, and reading his recent post..

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...threadid=58701

I've realised how arrogant some people can be.

Props to all the guys that have helped me, or the guys that haven't helped, but at least were nice about it

Sleazy. Go Fuck Yourself.

GTS Mark

Serves you right... You haven't attained "Elite" status yet! How could you approach the leader like that!???

DH

Mr.Fiction

railz

*cough*

Don't make me pull our trade, /\/00|3!

(Kidding, I promise)

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Theo

sleazy is a celebrity holding elite status, don't expect to be treated with the same way.

Va2k

Hey mate If ya need anything I MEAN anything and if i got it Hit me up on icq or [email protected] I will be more then happy to help someone that is at least trying. Though I should write a fucking book on HOW NOT TO MAKE $$$ lol good luck mate

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chodadog

I don't give a flying fuck about his "elite status"

A simple no would have sufficed, like many of the people that have quite simply told me no. I respect that they don't wanna be trading traffic with a site that won't be able to send nearly as many hits back for quite some time. I haven't got a problem with that.

I do however, have a problem with Sleazy feeling that he somehow has the right to put people down 'cause he's been in the industry longer, and is more successful. I didn't ask any of the shitty n00b questions that he posted.

To me, he's nothing more than an asshole.

chodadog

Hehe, thanks

SleazyDream

wa wa wa - all the way home

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[Labret]

Why should someone have to hold your fucking hand?

There is more than enough newbie porn webmaster school bullshit things out there that you could reasonably figure out what in the fuck is going on in less than a week.

There aint no welfare in porn you lazy bitch.

SleazyDream

ah fuck labrat - why are you making me agree with you?

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chodadog

I fully understand that. And i wasn't looking for someone to "hold my hand"

I was simply looking for some help. If he wanted to give it, great. If he didn't, it didn't really matter either. My point was, i think the fact that he made an entire post about it, was just petty and arrogant.

[Labret]

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

we both hate newbs. Will never fault anyone for that.

Va2k

Hey dude dont worry about it. As long as you stay honest and give back the help to others that you got you will go a long ways in life!!! Just cause one spoiled rotten mommas titty sucking BOY wants to put you or anyone else down cause they think there shit dont stink fuck em ya dont need to do biz with them they are going to be alone one day when no one wants to talk to them work with them etc....... Just go on with ya life and work hard as you can mate. Like I said good luck and if ya need anything hit me up

Peace good nite folks btw I have nothing against sleezy he hasnt done shit to me or bad mouthed me in anyways so I aint attacking him persoanly IM SAYING THIS TO ANYONE THAT ACTS LIKE THERE SHIT DONT STINK...

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Kimmykim

Labret and Sleazy, sittin in a tree. K I S S I N G.


Need I say more you dumb fucks?

You make me want to puke.

Or perhaps send the scorpion I just caught in my house to visit you both.

SleazyDream

nothing wrong with a newbie, but why is it that soooo many are sooooooo fucking stupid. Like this chodadog guy, he kept ICQing me and ICQing me while I was trying to fuckin work and he wouldn't leave me alone. I mean when I started I'd ask a question of an established webmaster and then not BUG someone anymore. And I'd usually do something for that person first like put up a banner on my galleries to their sponser for galleries I made for them, or start linking to them for a week or two first before I'd even talk to them so maybe they'd notice me a bit. These new guys want ME to link to them first. Sad.

These fucking idiots now put up a site and want to be huge overnight and want you to tell them all your trade secrets. I feel like asking if they want to drive my truck, sleep in my bed and fuck my wife as well.

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SleazyDream

Join us, It'll be a threesome

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Sly_RJ

I think I like Kimmy.

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[Labret]

Having to drop lolita and beast from your billing has you a little edgy and irritable eh?

SleazyDream

kimmykim will be ok, she still has the quazy childporn sites.........

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[Labret]

What the fuck do you know. You been doing this like a week and a half. Piss off. You wont make your riches here kiddo, disregard the show you watched on tv.

Theo

..........better close my eyes now......

chodadog

My oh my, how ignorant you are. If you had have said you were busy, i would have left you alone instantly! No fucking problem with that whatsoever. You gave absolutely no indication that you were busy. Sorry for disturbing you during your work.

I did not want you to link to me first, not once did i say that. I said i'd start sending you that amount of traffic as soon as i could, and when i was, i would THEN hit you up on icq for a traffic trade. I have the ICQ logs to prove it, would you like me to post them?

And no, i don't expect to get huge overnight. Sure, it'd be nice, but i'm sure as hell not banking on it.

Once again, proving your arrogance, and now you're ignorance.

Brut

It frustrates me how ignorant some of the people on this board can be. You all started out as newbies once, and with a little bit of time you got somewhere.... Well I can gaurantee you that your asses didn't get were you are on your own. You all asked questions to get here, so don't be pricks to some guy who doesn't know anything.

And fuck, don't embaress them in front of every other web master. If their bugging you on ICQ and wont let you do your shit, why don't you tell them on ICQ that "you're an annoying lil' fuck and leave me alone"?

It's a hell of a lot more mature then coming to the forums and bashing them for all to see..

Sly_RJ

I've never seen a guy, I'm assuming you're a guy, have PMS 24/7. Cat got your dick again? Quick hint, don't put cat food on your little pecker to hopefully get a BJ, it'll probably bite the fucker off, if it hasn't already.

Ooo wait, you forgot your classic come back, "you're only 18". Yeh, so? You jealous that I'll actually amount to something at an age before you could find your little pecker? Oh wait, I've only been doing this a week and a half, right? LOL, such little you know, cat fuck.

And hey, let me know when you have some actual dirt on me so everyone around here can stop listening to you bitch about me being 18.

Go fuck your grandma, you really need to relieve some of your sexual tension. It's going to end up hurting you.

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boneprone

I always try to help guys out.
Im not one giving out handouts, but i try my best to take the time to talk to webmasters.

4 years ago a freind did this for me and got me started in this biz.
I always think of that. For if he hadnt taken the time Id be running some nursing home or hospital right now dealing with paper and politics.

IVe helped out many webmasters just starting out, many of which are bigger than me now, and many who are pretty known now days.

Sure some of those guys have never spoken to me again, but others come back and still thank me for the help ive given them.

I may play an asshole on TV, but in reality I aint that bad.

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boneprone

I wish you luck with your site man.
If you ever need any pointers, or hook ups to anything im your man.

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chodadog

And it is appreciated

*bows to his site's current biggest referrer*

kmanrox

sleazy is arrogant?

hmm

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JFPdude

I have to agree with brut. We all asked questions and probably annoyed the big guys that started helping us a bit. However I for one like many others here now return that to our community in helping others the same way I was helped at the beginning.

Hell even the big guys have questions now and then. This thing called the internet is great for sharing ideas and developing the future. But bashing newbies is not the right way to this. If someone is bothering you politely tell them your busy. I do it works. I also try to get back with them later when I'm not so busy.




In the for what it's worth department a few newbies I helped are now trading good traffic with me. And I appreciate the help they are sending back my way.

Anyways..... </rant>

Sly_RJ

They're only embarrassing themselves. These stupid fucks will get bitten in the ass some day and wonder why. You have noticed how they repeatedly build themselves up by listing statistics and big numbers, right? That's called building your self-esteem, no doubt their therapist recommended this exercise to overcome their depression.

Like mom always said, money can't buy happiness. [Labret] is your textbook example.

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[Labret]

blah blah blah

You think these boards always existed? You think there always was icq? In 1997 there was were maybe 5% of as many porn webmasters as there are now. There was no help, people largely figured shit out on their own. Aside from YNOT and Netpond, webmaster resources for porn were scarce to nonexistant and largely sucked.

And when I say the term newb, I am talking to more the individual that just goes out and copies everyone else, spends his day on message boards asking stupid fucking questions that have been aksed 1000 other times in the same month.

I am not talking to the newbie lurker, the guy who spends 20 hours a day surfing and figuring shit out on his own. Not obsessed with the Hun, or gallery design, or best counter, and on and on and on.

Im talking to the people who think shit should be handed to them. Newbs are the scourge of this industry. They should not be helped and discouraged at all costs. Kill the fucking newbs.

Turboface

Is there a full moon tonight?

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Lensman

Keep your hands off, she''s mine.

Sexymail

HAHA, lol. labare and sleezyfuck have got to be the biggest jerkoffs on the board, oh wait kman and pipefag too. Im glad im not a newbie anymore, its pricks like this, that will keep a black man down

chaddog, fuck em. If you want help it will come, trust me. When i was a newbie ( 3 weeks ago ) I was pulling my hair out looking for handouts. Then i realized what spam , carding, hitbots, public domain content etc.. was. These are just a few tricks to get you on your feet and some loot in your pocket. Might even consider building a site just like the hun like that russian scumbag did, but your american so its ok

If you need some more tips email me at laberet&sleezyfuck@******s.com

Chris R

I've had help from very few people around here. Those that have - I am grateful for.

One of the things I don't like about running a TGP is all the communiaction you have to do with making trades and such. Just doesn't seem to be worth it. I am not into trying to negotiate with people. Just isn't my style. That's why I love selling porn - I get all these checks - and never have talked to any customers. Hell my sponsors hardly ever talk to me.

I don't mind helping people, but I have given out too much free information before - and very rarely does the person give anything back. I'l say - well you migght want to try this - this and this, oh by the way - how is xyz working out for you. At least half the time - I don't get a response.

Some people will never do well. They just don't get it. I wouldn't worry about it. Just go on doing what you are doing. You can't really expect a board that is called go fuckyourself to be chock full of goodnatured, kind, non abrasive people.

I think some of it is just attitude - as I have had conversations by email that were much more civil than what I have heard the same people on here say.

[Labret]

Watching you fail makes me happy.

Mike D

Good luck on your site chodadog.Dont let these guys get to you,I know a few people in this biz If you ever need help let me know.



Mike.........

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Sly_RJ

No wonder you're so miserable.

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[Labret]

Yeah, thumbs up PDiddy.

Oh wait... you think that talking shit to newbies like you does not bring me great joy?

You never met a person who takes great joy in pissing other people off?

Well let me introduce myself then... my name is Labret... and I hate you.

Sly_RJ

Good, I'm glad you hate me. I'm glad you can express yourself. But I don't hate you, I refuse to hate ignorant people. I hope you have a great day [Labret], I know I will.

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Brut

Heh, in my opinion, anyone who bashes somebody for asking a simple question is arrogant. But that's just what I think..

Also, Boneprone and anyone else who returns the favor that they were once given is an incredible person ;).

Their are the types of people who get help, and grow to be famous web masters, but then forget all about how they got there and think that they are too good for everyone below them.

And then their are those people who are just as famous as the person who is too good for everyone, but helps others just as they were once helped.

Now I'm not saying drop everything and start helping every person become good and knowledgable in this biz..I'm just saying don't be pricks to people who have potential in becoming legitimet porn web masters. [Labret] said that some people learned everything on their own, wich is true. But still - don't you think most of those people who did learn on their own helped others learn what they learned?

Amputate Your Head

oh for the love of christ...... is it whiners night on GFY or someting?

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Martin

I love newbies.. Send them to me.. Just check the dub dub dub.



PEACE

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drumsicle

You are becoming more pathetic with each passing day. Shit like you doesn't last ten minutes on the street. But you already knew that.

[Labret]

So sayeth Drumsicle. From Big TItty Land. Internet badass, protector of messageboard Zionism... King of the "streets".

Brut

It's whatever night you'd like it to be, Amp

SleazyDream

Ha - that's like saying you own the wind.......

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Frank W

Since its Bash on Newbies night at GFY, here's a tip to the newbs. Someone helped me when I was getting up there, now its my turn to give you the trick I learned along the way. I've moved on to paysite tour tricks but I figured I'd pass along a key TGP "secret" I learned on my own. I paid off my condo in 2000 using this simple trick: when building TGP galleries make sure you link to an FPA you created. Tweak this FPA until you get over 25% click through to your sponsor's join page. How do you tweak it? Easy, which part of the FPA do they click from? Where do they come from? A little trial and error and statistical analysis will make you $$$ It also helps to make the FPA look a little bit like the order page of your sponsor.


Innovators and people who succeed have nothing to fear from copiers. Copiers know WHAT seems to succeed. Innovators and workers know WHY things succeed.

Good luck to all the newbs, and don't let the haters get you down.

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