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Old 03-15-2006, 05:21 PM   #51
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So I guess you are saying you like the fact that Bush cut taxes then right?
I don't see any benefit form them. All that did was get federal money to my state cut and the republican governor here raised sales taxes to make up the difference. So where is my tax cut? I rather he used the surplus to pay off the 7 TRILLION debt FIRST. The taxes could ahve ben cut even more than what Bush did. For example the top rate could have been lowered to 27% instead of the 35% Bush cut it down too. Big whoop Bush. big whoop.
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Old 03-15-2006, 05:21 PM   #52
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Does Bush support it? yep.

Just like if you said you supported CP. Even though you may never even have seen or particpated in CP or done anything with a child ever it still makes you just as sick. PERIOD.
You're fuckin wacked dude. lmao Supporting abortion is supporting killing children. The one thing worse than CP.
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Old 03-15-2006, 05:23 PM   #53
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I don't see any benefit form them. All that did was get federal money to my state cut and the republican governor here raised sales taxes to make up the difference. So where is my tax cut? I rather he used the surplus to pay off the 7 TRILLION debt FIRST. The taxes could ahve ben cut even more than what Bush did. For example the top rate could have been lowered to 27% instead of the 35% Bush cut it down too. Big whoop Bush. big whoop.
The retard force is strong with this one... The unemployment rate is as low as it was with Clinton, and this is after we were attacked multible hurricanes and just about everything else that could be thrown at us. Our strong economy isnt by accident.
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Old 03-15-2006, 05:25 PM   #54
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That is one state. I was saying the way I 'thought' it should be. Are you blaming Bush for a bill that was written solely to challenge and hopefully overturn Roe v. Wade? written not by Bush?
This IS the TEST case ... The one which the Supreme Court, with it's newly appointed conservative judges, will use to make the law applicable in ALL states.

I know you were saying " the way I 'thought' it should be ". That is all you ever do ( no links, no backup, just your low thinking opinions ), but still claim people have no info ... and are idiots...

For the rest of your post, I am awaiting translation from professionals ...

BTW, where did I mention Bush... or even hinted ?You have a real fixation .. of defending him , even when not attacked .. Does he really need all that defense ? seems like it according to your responses.
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Old 03-15-2006, 05:28 PM   #55
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Most conservative states will ban elective abortion, while most liberal states will pass state versions of the Freedom of Choice Act which would virtually allow abortion for any reason. Middle class and wealthy women in conservative states will travel to liberal states when they desire abortions, or get them performed at a gynecologist who opens up an under-the-table abortion practice, which was common before Roe V. Wade. Poor women in conservative states will either visit a cheap "back alley" provider where they may die or be maimed, or they will give birth and likely raise their children in somewhat less than ideal conditions, creating additional burdens on the welfare and criminal justice system.
Well said.
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Old 03-15-2006, 05:28 PM   #56
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The retard force is strong with this one... The unemployment rate is as low as it was with Clinton, and this is after we were attacked multible hurricanes and just about everything else that could be thrown at us. Our strong economy isnt by accident.
WTF does that have to do with anything?

Anyone that supports Bush is a retard. Even many republicans no longer support him. I guess they are retards to you too?
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Old 03-15-2006, 05:41 PM   #57
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so 99% of the republicans vote that way for no reason? Which I suppose you will say is far less intelligent than the widely accepted practice of voting democratic because you are a minority?
sorry i shoulda been to the point and said theyre DUMB and suffer from what you posted below in your last paragraph as do REPUBLICANS.

Voters dont know their own parties TRUE politics.

ask a person why they vote they way they do.

a repub or a demo will say "because they represent me."

ok.

can you honestly say the republicans represent the majority of people in this country that voted for them?

http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature.../index_np.html

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http://www.fool.com/News/mft/2006/mft06031404.htm

The median net worth of the bottom 40% of families declined, while those at the top experienced gains in their net worth. Want specifics? The average family's income fell 2.3%, from $72,400 in the 1998-2001 period to $70,700 in the 2001-2004 period (adjusted for inflation). Part of this can be attributed to the stock market's slump during the period. During the boom years of 1998 to 2001, average income soared by 17.3%. Another factor is a 6.2% decline in median real wages.

Note that average numbers can be misleading, if some extreme numbers at the top or bottom skew things, so it's often good to look at median numbers, which represent the middle of the batch. In this case, median income rose a bit -- up 1.6% to $43,200.

Meanwhile, fewer families are investing in stocks, which doesn't bode well for their long-term fiscal health. The percentage of families investing in stocks fell from 51.9% to 48.6%.

Median net worth rose just 1.5%, to $93,100, between 2001 and 2004, versus a pop of 10.3% in the previous three years and a 17.4% increase in the three years before that. Meanwhile, mortgage debt increased significantly on account of the continued housing boom of recent years. (Home prices surged almost 27% during the period, and the ranks of homeowners rose to 69.1% of the population. Overall household debt jumped a whopping 33.9% to a median value of $55,300. Not surprisingly, the portion of household income devoted to paying off debts rose to 14.4% from 12.9%.


Do you get the picture? Many Americans are not doing as well as they may appear.

because they vote DUMB.


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Smoke and mirrors people, what you think you see is not always what is really going on.

white america fights more than any other race to keep an image of superiority and more holy than thou, because of this societal "no-no's" fall on the heads of minorities even if they are not to "blame". Time to wake up
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Old 03-15-2006, 05:47 PM   #58
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The retard force is strong with this one... The unemployment rate is as low as it was with Clinton, and this is after we were attacked multible hurricanes and just about everything else that could be thrown at us. Our strong economy isnt by accident.
HURRICANS?

and you call gatorb a retard?

please read a financial.

http://www.fool.com/News/mft/2006/mft06031404.htm
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Old 03-15-2006, 06:33 PM   #59
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The "strong US economy" is a joke created by deflating the crap out of the currency until it becomes too expensive to import things, which promotes your in economy manufacturing. If you adjust the US economy dollars from Clinton era and current numbers in $$$ to value of things like Yen, Euros, or other major currencies, you will find that things have dropped remarkably.

Unless the economy is doing 25% better today than 5 years ago, the net net net isn't very good.

It is painful to watch.

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Old 03-15-2006, 06:49 PM   #60
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You're fuckin wacked dude. lmao Supporting abortion is supporting killing children. The one thing worse than CP.
WTF? You need to inform yourself before you start talking shit like that...Jesus fuck.
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Old 03-15-2006, 09:31 PM   #61
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If Roe v. Wade gets overturned, I am buying stock in the companies that make coat hangers.
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Old 03-15-2006, 09:46 PM   #62
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Raven - I do not think you have to worry about this. For you to have an abortion - that means a man would have to have sex with you.

I do not see that happening.
I am reading so many well thought out responses....and then your post drops in like unwelcome herpes.

Who the fuck are you?
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Old 03-15-2006, 09:52 PM   #63
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The original premise of this discussion was to get people to suggest how we, as a society, will handle or legislate if a woman becomes pregnant and abortion becomes either state controlled or totally banned..not whether
Bush is an idiot...

Before abortion was legalised, men were not held accountable, women died or abandoned babies on church steps.....orphanages overflowed...

So.

If there is no abortion, what steps are needed..so we do not repeat our own barbaric history?
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Old 03-15-2006, 09:54 PM   #64
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You're fuckin wacked dude. lmao Supporting abortion is supporting killing children. The one thing worse than CP.
Yet you support this you fucking hypocritical piece of trash.






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Old 03-15-2006, 09:58 PM   #65
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I see you are making a statement here, but what do these images have to do with the question about abortion....
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Old 03-15-2006, 10:00 PM   #66
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what will happen is rich girls will still get them and poor girls will go to back alleys and many will die .Thats what happened before.
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I see you are making a statement here, but what do these images have to do with the question about abortion....

Because these same pricks that claim to be so much into saving babies are the same ones that backed Bush on the war and still continue to do so. As far as I'm concerned the bloods on their hands.
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Because these same pricks that claim to be so much into saving babies are the same ones that backed Bush on the war and still continue to do so. As far as I'm concerned the bloods on their hands.
I wonder how many of those who are so anti abortion adopt.....
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