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ThunderBalls · 02-24-2006, 07:53 PM

I know this shit happens all the time but this is so fucking blatent. I went into my Kanoodle account which I havent used for years and decided to run a small campaign. I recharged my account with $100 and noticed nobody was bidding for any of the 35 keywords I had which I thought was strange. So I put them all at a nickel. Within 20 minutes their stats showed 2000 visits to my site and the $100 was gone. I thought wtf is going on here so I take a look at my log files and notice over 500 visits from one IP, 300 from another and so on and so on. There is no way in hell Kanoodle could deliver that many hits in 20 minutes for those keywords (mainstream keywords). Now I know why I quit using PPC.

modF · 02-24-2006, 07:55 PM

That happened to me a while back, just send the logs to Kanoodle and they should credit you back. Gotta love it..

rowan · 02-24-2006, 07:59 PM

Are they that neanderthal that they count all multiple raws as charged clicks?

polle54 · 02-24-2006, 08:36 PM

hmm if it's true it's from the same IP they are doing nothing to protect you from getting hit by this kind of fraud....

it is sad that it's even a problem but it is so easy and convinient to make fraud with this shit... sad..

Kevin - The PNN · 02-24-2006, 08:44 PM

what the fuck

Theo · 02-24-2006, 08:46 PM

kanoodle is a fraudulent operation

jacked · 02-24-2006, 08:51 PM

i used to use kanoodle a long while back they were pretty good then i'm not sure about there business practices now a days though it might be someone else bidding on those clicks trying to drive down the cost per click...

pocketkangaroo · 02-24-2006, 09:42 PM

Kanoodle is about as fraudulent as they come.

chadglni · 02-24-2006, 09:48 PM

Question is, what kind of idiot bot uses a handful of IP's for 2000 clicks? lol

Furious_Male · 02-24-2006, 10:15 PM

One of Kanoodles corp offices is 10 minutes from me. I am tempted to go down there and kick someone in the teeth but I am getting a bit to old for the drama.

Yes they do seem like a shitty operation. I have had nothing but bad luck with every single campaign I tried with them. I dropped then a long time ago.

Kevsh · 02-24-2006, 11:32 PM

I used Kanoodle years ago and it was terrible. Hits coming from "squatting" domains and highly dubious sites -- not one hit ever came from a legit partner of theirs (the ones they advertise as being as part of their network).

When I asked them about this and requested I not have ads placed on these b.s. sites, they said would not divulge their list of partners. And of course, they did not have option to prevent ads from appearing on certain sites.

I stopped my account the next day.

zigx · 02-25-2006, 01:19 AM

good to knmow

~Ray · 02-25-2006, 04:43 AM

they did it to you.

chaze · 02-25-2006, 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel

kanoodle is a fraudulent operation

Really, shit I didn't know this.

Funny though i stopped google adwords and overture this month, usually around $1500 a month for web hosting stuff and we still have got the same and better sales then before. WTF either we where waisting that money or maybe just a fluke?

Antonio · 02-25-2006, 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan

Are they that neanderthal that they count all multiple raws as charged clicks?

was thinking the same

Ecchi22 · 02-25-2006, 05:27 AM

Thanks for sharing that info

V_RocKs · 02-25-2006, 07:08 AM

I tried to signup with MIVA... They said my phone number doesn't match the one given by my CC issuer... So I call my CC issuer and ask WTF? And they tell me you only have 1 number on file ever and it is the one you just called me with. I call back MIVA and ask them WTF? And long story short. They refunded me my money and to hell with their lame asses.

minusonebit · 02-25-2006, 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chadglni

Question is, what kind of idiot bot uses a handful of IP's for 2000 clicks? lol

No shit, you've gotta wonder which of your competitors is stupid enough to pull this.

SomeCreep · 02-25-2006, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThunderBalls

I know this shit happens all the time but this is so fucking blatent. I went into my Kanoodle account which I havent used for years and decided to run a small campaign. I recharged my account with $100 and noticed nobody was bidding for any of the 35 keywords I had which I thought was strange. So I put them all at a nickel. Within 20 minutes their stats showed 2000 visits to my site and the $100 was gone. I thought wtf is going on here so I take a look at my log files and notice over 500 visits from one IP, 300 from another and so on and so on. There is no way in hell Kanoodle could deliver that many hits in 20 minutes for those keywords (mainstream keywords). Now I know why I quit using PPC.

Hate the game, not the player.

adultchica · 02-25-2006, 09:57 AM

Never use kanoodle! I tried them a long time ago, same thing happened to me. Stick with the major players

Theo · 02-25-2006, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaze

Really, shit I didn't know this.

Funny though i stopped google adwords and overture this month, usually around $1500 a month for web hosting stuff and we still have got the same and better sales then before. WTF either we where waisting that money or maybe just a fluke?

yeap,i've been in to SEs since 2001 and i've seen all forms of ppc fraud coming and going. Kanoodle, xuppa, sprinks (yeap owned by amazon.com) and few smaller ppcs have been the homes of all types of fraudulent traffic. When you have no real traffic partners in order to satisfy the new client registrations and deposits you are getting you have 3 options: 1)find real traffic partners, 2) deliver fake traffic 3) close your shop.

2nd option has been pretty popular for years.

woj · 02-25-2006, 12:23 PM

That's pretty fucked...

02-24-2006, 07:53 PM	#1
ThunderBalls So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Mesosphere Posts: 2,926	Major fucking click fraud I know this shit happens all the time but this is so fucking blatent. I went into my Kanoodle account which I havent used for years and decided to run a small campaign. I recharged my account with $100 and noticed nobody was bidding for any of the 35 keywords I had which I thought was strange. So I put them all at a nickel. Within 20 minutes their stats showed 2000 visits to my site and the $100 was gone. I thought wtf is going on here so I take a look at my log files and notice over 500 visits from one IP, 300 from another and so on and so on. There is no way in hell Kanoodle could deliver that many hits in 20 minutes for those keywords (mainstream keywords). Now I know why I quit using PPC.

02-24-2006, 07:55 PM	#2
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02-24-2006, 08:36 PM	#4
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02-24-2006, 08:51 PM	#7
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02-24-2006, 09:48 PM	#9
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02-24-2006, 07:59 PM	#3
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	Are they that neanderthal that they count all multiple raws as charged clicks?

02-24-2006, 08:44 PM	#5
Kevin - The PNN Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: ICQ: 306431492 Posts: 1,364	what the fuck

02-24-2006, 08:46 PM	#6
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	kanoodle is a fraudulent operation

02-24-2006, 09:42 PM	#8
pocketkangaroo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 8,452	Kanoodle is about as fraudulent as they come.

02-24-2006, 10:15 PM	#10
Furious_Male Doing the grind since 99 Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Buffalo NY Posts: 16,881	One of Kanoodles corp offices is 10 minutes from me. I am tempted to go down there and kick someone in the teeth but I am getting a bit to old for the drama. Yes they do seem like a shitty operation. I have had nothing but bad luck with every single campaign I tried with them. I dropped then a long time ago. __________________ Living in Virtual Reality Contact: Email (preferred): furiousmale .at. gmail - Skype: live:shanedws

02-24-2006, 11:32 PM	#11
Kevsh Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: TO Posts: 8,619	I used Kanoodle years ago and it was terrible. Hits coming from "squatting" domains and highly dubious sites -- not one hit ever came from a legit partner of theirs (the ones they advertise as being as part of their network). When I asked them about this and requested I not have ads placed on these b.s. sites, they said would not divulge their list of partners. And of course, they did not have option to prevent ads from appearing on certain sites. I stopped my account the next day.

02-25-2006, 01:19 AM	#12
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02-25-2006, 04:43 AM	#13
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02-25-2006, 05:27 AM	#16
Ecchi22 Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 10,012	Thanks for sharing that info __________________

02-25-2006, 07:08 AM	#17
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,409	I tried to signup with MIVA... They said my phone number doesn't match the one given by my CC issuer... So I call my CC issuer and ask WTF? And they tell me you only have 1 number on file ever and it is the one you just called me with. I call back MIVA and ask them WTF? And long story short. They refunded me my money and to hell with their lame asses.

02-25-2006, 09:57 AM	#20
adultchica Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: usa Posts: 5,141	Never use kanoodle! I tried them a long time ago, same thing happened to me. Stick with the major players __________________

02-25-2006, 12:23 PM	#22
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