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ThunderBalls 02-24-2006 07:53 PM

Major fucking click fraud
 
I know this shit happens all the time but this is so fucking blatent. I went into my Kanoodle account which I havent used for years and decided to run a small campaign. I recharged my account with $100 and noticed nobody was bidding for any of the 35 keywords I had which I thought was strange. So I put them all at a nickel. Within 20 minutes their stats showed 2000 visits to my site and the $100 was gone. I thought wtf is going on here so I take a look at my log files and notice over 500 visits from one IP, 300 from another and so on and so on. There is no way in hell Kanoodle could deliver that many hits in 20 minutes for those keywords (mainstream keywords). Now I know why I quit using PPC.

modF 02-24-2006 07:55 PM

That happened to me a while back, just send the logs to Kanoodle and they should credit you back. Gotta love it..

rowan 02-24-2006 07:59 PM

Are they that neanderthal that they count all multiple raws as charged clicks?

polle54 02-24-2006 08:36 PM

hmm if it's true it's from the same IP they are doing nothing to protect you from getting hit by this kind of fraud....

it is sad that it's even a problem but it is so easy and convinient to make fraud with this shit... sad..

Kevin - The PNN 02-24-2006 08:44 PM

what the fuck

Theo 02-24-2006 08:46 PM

kanoodle is a fraudulent operation

jacked 02-24-2006 08:51 PM

i used to use kanoodle a long while back they were pretty good then i'm not sure about there business practices now a days though it might be someone else bidding on those clicks trying to drive down the cost per click...

pocketkangaroo 02-24-2006 09:42 PM

Kanoodle is about as fraudulent as they come.

chadglni 02-24-2006 09:48 PM

Question is, what kind of idiot bot uses a handful of IP's for 2000 clicks? lol

Furious_Male 02-24-2006 10:15 PM

One of Kanoodles corp offices is 10 minutes from me. I am tempted to go down there and kick someone in the teeth but I am getting a bit to old for the drama.

Yes they do seem like a shitty operation. I have had nothing but bad luck with every single campaign I tried with them. I dropped then a long time ago.

Kevsh 02-24-2006 11:32 PM

I used Kanoodle years ago and it was terrible. Hits coming from "squatting" domains and highly dubious sites -- not one hit ever came from a legit partner of theirs (the ones they advertise as being as part of their network).

When I asked them about this and requested I not have ads placed on these b.s. sites, they said would not divulge their list of partners. And of course, they did not have option to prevent ads from appearing on certain sites.

I stopped my account the next day.

zigx 02-25-2006 01:19 AM

good to knmow

~Ray 02-25-2006 04:43 AM

they did it to you. :2 cents:

chaze 02-25-2006 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel
kanoodle is a fraudulent operation

Really, shit I didn't know this.

Funny though i stopped google adwords and overture this month, usually around $1500 a month for web hosting stuff and we still have got the same and better sales then before. WTF either we where waisting that money or maybe just a fluke?

Antonio 02-25-2006 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan
Are they that neanderthal that they count all multiple raws as charged clicks?

was thinking the same

Ecchi22 02-25-2006 05:27 AM

Thanks for sharing that info :)

V_RocKs 02-25-2006 07:08 AM

I tried to signup with MIVA... They said my phone number doesn't match the one given by my CC issuer... So I call my CC issuer and ask WTF? And they tell me you only have 1 number on file ever and it is the one you just called me with. I call back MIVA and ask them WTF? And long story short. They refunded me my money and to hell with their lame asses.

minusonebit 02-25-2006 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chadglni
Question is, what kind of idiot bot uses a handful of IP's for 2000 clicks? lol

No shit, you've gotta wonder which of your competitors is stupid enough to pull this.

SomeCreep 02-25-2006 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThunderBalls
I know this shit happens all the time but this is so fucking blatent. I went into my Kanoodle account which I havent used for years and decided to run a small campaign. I recharged my account with $100 and noticed nobody was bidding for any of the 35 keywords I had which I thought was strange. So I put them all at a nickel. Within 20 minutes their stats showed 2000 visits to my site and the $100 was gone. I thought wtf is going on here so I take a look at my log files and notice over 500 visits from one IP, 300 from another and so on and so on. There is no way in hell Kanoodle could deliver that many hits in 20 minutes for those keywords (mainstream keywords). Now I know why I quit using PPC.

Hate the game, not the player.

adultchica 02-25-2006 09:57 AM

Never use kanoodle! I tried them a long time ago, same thing happened to me. Stick with the major players

Theo 02-25-2006 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaze
Really, shit I didn't know this.

Funny though i stopped google adwords and overture this month, usually around $1500 a month for web hosting stuff and we still have got the same and better sales then before. WTF either we where waisting that money or maybe just a fluke?


yeap,i've been in to SEs since 2001 and i've seen all forms of ppc fraud coming and going. Kanoodle, xuppa, sprinks (yeap owned by amazon.com) and few smaller ppcs have been the homes of all types of fraudulent traffic. When you have no real traffic partners in order to satisfy the new client registrations and deposits you are getting you have 3 options: 1)find real traffic partners, 2) deliver fake traffic 3) close your shop.

2nd option has been pretty popular for years.

woj 02-25-2006 12:23 PM

That's pretty fucked...


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